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Federal gov't runs $98.5B deficit in October

Federal gov't runs $98.5B budget deficit in October; projected to run $973B deficit for year

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The federal government started the budget year with a smaller October deficit than a year ago, modest progress after three straight years of $1 trillion-plus deficits.

The deficit for October, the first month of the 2012 budget year, totaled $98.5 billion, the Treasury Department said Thursday. That's down from $140.4 billion in October 2010.

Even with the improvement, the deficit remains extraordinarily high by historical standards and will keep pressure on lawmakers as they debate spending cuts and tax increases.

For all of the 2012 budget year, the Congressional Budget Office predicts the deficit will be $973 billion. That's lower than the $1.3 trillion imbalance from the budget year that just ended on Sept. 30, the second highest ever. But it would still be higher than any previous deficit before fiscal year 2009.

The government ran an all-time record deficit of $1.41 trillion in 2009, and a $1.29 trillion imbalance in 2010.

The CBO's lower projected deficit for this year is based on an expectation that revenues, helped by a slowly improving economy, will outpace the growth in government spending.

Still, a big reason for the smaller October deficit was an accounting shift. Roughly $31 billion in benefit payments for October went out in late September. Federal benefits are paid on the first day of the month. But because Oct. 1 fell on a Saturday, the payments went out a day earlier and were accounted for in last year's deficit.

A decade ago, the government was running surpluses and trillion-dollar deficits seemed unimaginable. Now, the nation's debt is $14.9 trillion.

The enormity of that figure has stoked intense partisan debate in Congress over spending and taxes. Polls show growing voter anger with the inability of both parties to reach solutions to the country's budget problems.

Lawmakers are under pressure to agree by Thanksgiving on where they can cut $1.2 trillion over the next decade. If they cannot, automatic cuts to Medicare, defense spending and other critical areas of the budget would go into effect in January 2013.

The committee is evenly split between Democrats and Republicans. With just two weeks to go before the committee's Thanksgiving deadline, the two sides are far apart on how much in new tax revenues a deal should include.

 

120 comments

  • Virgil  •  6 months ago
    Ah the Thanksgiving holiday...when Democrats and Republicans unite to vote for pay increases for themselves every year. Both sides will add even more to the deficit by doing so this year, unfortunately.
    • Phil and Joy 6 months ago
      Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (Little Rock) 4/2/11 “Scoring his first legislative victory as a freshman House member, U.S. Rep. Steve Womack shepherded through the House a bill designed to break a budget logjam on Capitol Hill. The Arkansas Republican's bill, which would withhold legislators' pay if a spending deal isn't reached, raised constitutional concerns among Democratic legislators and legal scholars.”
      But Harry, the Liberal Democrat would have nothing to do with this.

      We need a bill that requires a pay freeze on all federal politicians and staff until they balance the budget.
    • joe 6 months ago
      Except RON PAUL
  • Scott  •  6 months ago
    When do you think those 'rocket scientists' that are hitting Italy and Greece will figure out that the U.S. is the biggest debt problem?
  • Phil and Joy  •  6 months ago
    Surely Obama did not create all of these problems. But there is very specific evidence that he has done more than any single person to worsen many of the problems that you cite. One example is deficit spending. Obama increased the deficit by $900 Billion in his first year in office and continued the spending frenzy. The INCREASE alone is far more than the deficit in any single previous year. If he gets another 4 years, he may increase the deficit by more than all previous presidents combined.
    • MidwestVet 6 months ago
      When Obama took office the economy was losing 750,000 jobs a month. Now its creating jobs. When Obama took office the DOW was tanking near 6,600. It has nearly doubled since then. Im sure it would have been much better with McCain and the Alaskan disaster as Vice President.
    • Doug Richardson 6 months ago
      Midwest obviously has no idea what he's mumbling about, the DOW at 12000 artifically there because of Q1,2, and 3. It would be much better at 9 or 10K without the bubble the fed is creating AGAIN. We r divided more than ever in our history, thanks to #$%$ obama, and you're so stupid you think this is a good thing, typical blind lib.
    • Phil and Joy 6 months ago
      In total (all types of jobs), in Obama's first two years, the US lost 7 Million net jobs. Half of the USA’s new jobs were created in Texas. The state is run conservatively, with low taxes, tort reform, and less interference with business. In the last 2 years, Obama has tried a strange mix of socialism and crony capitalism. Let’s go back to what has built up our country.
  • Trader Nick 44  •  6 months ago
    How about a 20% pay cut for all government employees then follow that with further cuts each year until they all make less than their private sector counter parts. Then eliminate all unnecessary government regulations, departments and employees, then elect as many TEA Party candidates as possible in 2012. Problem solved!
    • Buffalo Finfan 6 months ago
      Let's eliminate 80% of the United States Military
    • Trader Nick 44 6 months ago
      Buffalo, how about lets not eliminat any of the US Military! You Idiot!
    • Phil and Joy 6 months ago
      The military is one of the few things that the government does that is consitutional.
  • love USA  •  6 months ago
    Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Spain and now Italy. It seems like the Socialist Model of EU is working fine, as least according to Barney Frank, Harry Reid, Maxine Water and Odumbo. HAIL TO THE THIEF.
    • BI 6 months ago
      You forgot Portugal, the acronym is PIIGS
  • Tom T  •  6 months ago
    Keep spending, Obama. Punish the self-sufficient and reward the deadbeats! You'll have the US looking like Greece in no time.
    • J M 6 months ago
      What reward?
    • STEVE 6 months ago
      You get to live in a van, down by the river!
    • Buffalo Finfan 6 months ago
      Tom, I'm not sure if you realize this but as far as the Obama Administration is concerned, a $98.5 B deficit in one month IS a savings as far as his administration is concerned!
  • Mark  •  6 months ago
    Obama inherited a $9 TRILLION problem and turned it into a $15 TRILLION dollar problem. Bob, deadbeat FAILURES like yourself might want Obama's programs but the rest of America knows full well that we can't continue to pay for them.

    Liberal democrats like BOB are the real problem in this country.
  • Phil and Joy  •  6 months ago
    Harry Reid pitched a fit when it was proposed that we cut funding for Cowboy Poetry. He never saw a spending bill that he didn't like.
  • None of ya Business  •  6 months ago
    I would like to see some accountability of where the finds went. I bet 60% is waste..
  • Dick Gozenya  •  6 months ago
    STOP THE SPENDING..GET THESE TAX AND SPENDERS OUT BEFORE WE ARE LIKE GREECE
  • Phil and Joy  •  6 months ago
    These are some of the programs that the new Republican House have proposed cutting. Read to the end.
    • Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual savings.
    • Save America 's Treasures Program. $25 million annual savings.
    • International Fund for Ireland . $17 million annual savings.
    • Legal Services Corporation. $420 million annual savings.
    • National Endowment for the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings.
    • National Endowment for the Humanities. $167.5 million annual savings.
    • Hope VI Program. $250 million annual savings.
    • Amtrak Subsidies. $1.565 billion annual savings.
    • Eliminate duplicative education programs. H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
    • U.S. Trade Development Agency. $55 million annual savings.
    • Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy. $20 million annual savings.
    • Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding. $47 million annual savings.
    • John C. Stennis Center Subsidy. $430,000 annual savings.
    • Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.
    • Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid. $24 million annual savings.
    • Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half. $7.5 billion annual savings
    • Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20%. $600 million annual savings.
    • Essential Air Service. $150 million annual savings.
    • Technology Innovation Program. $70 million annual savings.
    • Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program. $125 million annual savings.
    • Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings.
  • Bobby in Collinsville, Ok ...  •  6 months ago
    Why don't you boneheads quit spending money we don't have
  • JeffV  •  6 months ago
    Stop welfare payments to Pakistan and declare a major reduction in deficit spending. Nice
  • David E.  •  6 months ago
    Still no leadership from Obama on jobs while Harry Reid continues to block the bills
    passed by the House to improve the economy by creating jobs. Reid has to go as
    President of the Senate along with Obama and the rest of the liberal left that have put
    this country on the brink of financial disaster. All of the tax and spend members of Congress must be replaced in 2012, 2014, or 2016 before they compete the bankrupting
    of this country. We do not have a tax revenue problem, we have an uncontrolled spending
    problem made even worse by Ben Bernanke who continues to take the food and medicine out of the mouths of responsible retirees who put back their meager savings to have the
    basic necessities of life in retirement. At 0% interest on our savings we have to go
    without decent food and our meds due to the policies of Obama and Bernanke and the
    rest of the liberal left in Congress who continue to try to buy votes by promoting dependency
    on their give a way programs. 2012, 2014, and 2016 cannot get here too soon.
  • Phil and Joy  •  6 months ago
    The spending mentioned in this article is only the tip of the iceberg. The Government Accounting Office says that the US has $99.4 Trillion in unfunded mandates. This includes Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc. That is about $300,000 per person. We still have time to get out of the death spiral. But it’s high time the president and the Democrats stopped stalling. We are heading in the same direction that Greece is going.
  • Doug Richardson  •  6 months ago
    If you think this is no big deal or that we don't need to cut spending FIRST, well then you're just dumb as #$%$
  • randyp910  •  6 months ago
    So the 98.5 billion in spending was really 129 billion because they added 31 billion to last years budget by paying out the money 1 day early.The headlinemakes things look alot better than they really are.What else is new.The AP is so bias it's disgusting.As for the 973 billion dollar deficit they are predicting that doesn't take into account the jos bill components that OBUMMER is trying to get passed.It is also based on things getting better.The 2.5 % growth that the government has reported for the 3rd quarter is another number that will be revised down to less than 1% by the end of the year.This way obama can gain some steam for his infrastructure spending and his social security tax cut for next year.Then factor in that they're going to have to pass another extension of jobless benefits for the long term unemployed.It's hillarious how they spin things.The AP are nothing more than government propaganda machine designed to create a sense of fear or outrage when obama wants something or a sense of relief when his polling numbers are down.
  • A Yahoo! User  •  6 months ago
    "Still, a big reason for the smaller October deficit was an accounting shift. Roughly $31 billion in benefit payments for October went out in late September." -- So, it would have been $130 million except for MORE of the SLIGHT OF HAND used by the MEDIA-WALL STREET-ADMINISTRATION AXIS to create a different picture.
  • AP  •  6 months ago
    The solvency of the government should be measured against its income to debt ratio not the countries GDP. The current debt is 7 times the revenues. No individual or business will be able to borrow money with such a high debt and no end to its massive borrowing needs for its operating expenses.
  • Phil and Joy  •  6 months ago
    It’s important to understand what happened in 2008 and why, or we will repeat history. This economic collapse in 2008 was caused by government forcing the markets and some corrupt banks.


    Carter said everyone should be able to have a home with no discrimination but, this was weakly enforced. So he signed the Community Recovery Act.


    Obama said, years ago when he was with the now disgraced ACORN - forget the law, we will just sue banks for the least little thing if these people get turned down for a loan on a home they really cannot afford.


    Clinton said, everyone should own a home and made national what Obama, then ACORN lawyer did in Illinois.


    So now we have a change in the law with HUD homes. Instead of 28% of pay, payments can be up to 36-42% of pay depending on if one applicant or 2. This is insane. People were flipping homes for PROFIT and people were in homes who clearly could not afford them.


    ACORN threatened banks to take the bad loans. To their discredit, they buckled. The loans got packaged as investment grade and spread around by unscrupulous businessmen.


    Bush encouraged home ownership in speeches. I am all for this, but only if people can afford them.
    He could have been more vocal about it, but he did try 17 times to get the democratically controlled Congress to do something about Fannie Mae’s huge problems. Frank and Dodd said everything was fine. Frank was dating a Fannie Mae exec, so this may have clouded his judgment.
 
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