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Greece awaits bailout decision but issues remain

Greece awaits bailout decision, but issues remain over spending controls, debt levels

BRUSSELS (AP) -- Eurozone governments hoped to sign off on Monday a long-awaited rescue package for Greece, saving it from a potentially calamitous bankruptcy next month, but several key points of division remained, senior officials said.

Finance ministers meeting in Brussels were still wrangling over how to further reduce Greece's debt load and impose even tighter control over the country's spending, and the meeting was expected to stretch late into the night. Rich countries like Germany and the Netherlands and the International Monetary Fund want to be sure that Athens can eventually survive without aid.

But after months of delays, time for Greece is running out. The country needs to secure the euro130 billion ($170 billion) bailout so it can move ahead with a related euro100 billion ($130 billion) debt relief deal with private investors. That deal needs to be in place quickly if Athens is to avoid a disorderly default on a bond repayment on March 20.

"I am of the opinion that today we have to deliver, because we don't have any more time," Jean-Claude Juncker, the prime minister of Luxembourg who also chairs the meetings of eurozone finance ministers, said as he arrived in Brussels.

An uncontrolled bankruptcy would likely force Greece to leave the 17-country currency union and return to its old currency, the drachma, further shaking its already beaten economy and creating uncertainty across Europe.

Heading into the meeting, ministers were optimistic that a deal could be reached.

"We now have all of the elements to achieve an agreement," said French Finance Minister Francois Baroin. "Greece knows what it has to do, and we'll watch over it continually. We also know what we have to do."

But the finance ministers were also negotiating on several fronts, trying to move Greece's other creditors to increase their commitments. Greek Prime Minister Lucas Papademos rushed to Brussels to back up his finance chief, Evangelos Venizelos, in talks with the IMF, the European Central Bank and representatives of private holders of Greek debt.

The goal is to bring Greece's debt down to around 120 percent of gross domestic product by 2020 — the maximum the IMF sees as sustainable. At the moment, the country's debt load stands at more than 160 percent.

Last week, a new report prepared by the European Commission, the ECB and the IMF concluded that the new bailout, Greek spending cuts, and a planned euro100 billion debt relief from private investors would still leave Greece's debt at almost 129 percent of economic output by the end of the decade.

Ministers were exploring several options to close that gap, but as talks dragged on Monday, no final solution appeared imminent.

A Greek official said Monday morning that there seemed to be agreement on further reducing the interest rate on Greece's first, euro110 billion bailout as well as having national central banks in the eurozone, which also hold some Greek bonds, participate in the debt relief. The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the talks were confidential.

However, other officials questioned the participation of national central banks, as well as whether the ECB would be willing to transfer profits from its Greek bond holdings back to Athens.

On the sidelines of the finance ministers' meeting, Venizelos headed into a new round of talks with representatives of Greece's private bondholders — mostly banks and investment funds — to explore whether they would be willing to accept further losses.

A current plan foresees private creditors swapping their old Greek bonds for new ones with half the face value, lower interest rates and much longer repayment periods.

But now some countries are pushing for bondholders to also give up on an accrued interest payment of around euro5.5 billion on their old bonds, a demand that could further discourage investors from signing up to the debt swap.

Amid the ever-changing mood over the country's rescue, some frustration was setting in among the Greeks.

"Greece comes into today's Eurogroup meeting having fulfilled all the requirements for the approval of the new program," Venizelos said. "For Greeks, this is a matter of national dignity and a national strategic choice and no other integrated and responsible choice can be opposed to it."

The Greek parliament has faced down violent protests to approve the austerity measures demanded by the eurozone. Its main political leaders have committed in writing to uphold the bailout terms even after general elections in April. And later Monday, the government in Athens is expected to introduce in parliament another two pieces of emergency legislation, including wage and pension cuts.

Despite Athens' efforts, however, some countries have indicated their patience with Greece was growing short.

"We've seen that Greece time and time again fails to satisfy the conditions that the international community makes. ... In the Netherlands, it really is an issue that you have to lend money to a country that for the umpteenth time hasn't held itself to its agreements," said Jan Kees de Jager, the finance minister from the Netherlands, which has been especially hard on Greece. "So it's indeed essential to me, and also the Dutch government, that we have control over the money that we're going to lend."

To that end, Greece is expected to be forced to set up a separate account that would ensure it services its debt. This escrow account would give legal priority to debt and interest payments over paying for government services. That would maintain pressure on Greece to stick to promised austerity and reform measures and spare the eurozone the risk of a destabilizing default.

The escrow account would, however, be an unprecedented intrusion into a sovereign state's fiscal affairs and could ultimately see Greece forced to pay interest on its debt before paying salaries to teachers and doctors.

In addition, Greece's international creditors will station permanent representatives in Athens to monitor the country's progress.

Another issue under discussion is how much the IMF will contribute to the new rescue. The fund has provided one-third of the bailouts for Ireland and Portugal and Greece's first rescue package.

"The indication is that the figure will be rather low," a European Union official said, adding however that a final decision from the fund's board is still outstanding. The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because talks were not yet concluded.

Some worry that more austerity could exacerbate Greece's problems by putting a stranglehold on growth. Prime Ministers from a dozen European countries — including the U.K., Italy and the Netherlands — wrote a letter Monday to EU President Herman Van Rompuy and Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso calling for growth across the bloc.

"The crisis we are facing is also a crisis of growth," the letter said. "It is now time to show leadership and take bold decisions which will deliver results that our people are demanding."

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Don Melvin in Brussels, Toby Sterling in Amsterdam, and Elena Becatoros and Derek Gatopoulos in Athens, Greece, contributed to this story.

 
  • educated  •  San Jose, California  •  3 months ago
    In 2010 the Greek bailout of $110 billion was to last 3 years. 1 year later it takes $146 billion to solve the same issue. Let them fail. The world keeps propping failure.
    • inspired thought 3 months ago
      so since the market (i.e. your 401k plan) moves up and down based on Greece staying afloat and economically healthy, why would you want them to go down? did you also want leaman to go down and GM? do you have any clue why this is news here everyday (i.e. what the potential ramifications are to the USA's economy?)....I'm relatively wealthy and I can withstand it...can you withstand another recession 'mr. educated'? lol what ignorance on here
    • Kenneth F 3 months ago
      Inspired thought, if you are on a cocaine high do you keep doing cocaine until your heart bursts? Educated is just pointing out Einstein's definition of insanity. The market moves wherever the volume pushers move it, not whether if Greece is doing bad. This Greece thing has been constantly in the news the last 2 months and the dow has gone up 1200 points, so by your example Greece doing bad is a good thing.
    • David 3 months ago
      Greece is never going to pull their fat from the fire, until they get rid of all those Unions.
  • Lukshon  •  3 months ago
    Greeks

    WHY WON'T CHURMANY, SWEDEN, NETHERLANDS FRANCE JUST GIVE UP AND LET GREECE DEFAULT????

    BECAUSE THEY WANT THE GRECIAN POLITICOS TO CONTUNUE PAYING INTEREST ON THE 130 BILLION LOAN TO MAKE THEM RICHER AND FATTER.

    SUCK EVERYTHING YOU CAN OUT OF THE GREECE GDP NO MATTER IF THE PEPOLE OF GREECE STARVE
    • Post.Haste 3 months ago
      Hey Luks ........ loan me all you have. i'll default and you can get rich on the interest I default on and the prnciple I default on
    • Bronson 3 months ago
      Because the Chermans will end up owning most of Greece after a few years. The only thing that the Greeks have of value is their land and souvlaki, they're selling both to the vacationing Chermans/Brits.
    • john 3 months ago
      Sweden isn't a euro country, but apparently seem bent on joining in the death spiral someday. The Scandinavian monarchies didn't join in the euro, only Finland which is currently doing OK.
  • Bob  •  Needham, Massachusetts  •  3 months ago
    I owe you money; I can't pay you; You loan me more money so I can pay you back; So I pay off the first loan and owe you the second loan; I can't pay you; You tell me to cut down my expenses; I tell you what expenses I will cut back on if you loan me money to pay back the second loan; I tell my wife that she's only going to get half the money I usually give her; She riots and tells me that my sex life, and meals is over if she doesn't get her regular amount. I lie and tell you what I'm cutting back on. You agree to lend me the money to pay back the second loan; I pay back the second loan and laugh while i screw my wife after dinner.
    • Vip 3 months ago
      You are a screwy guy!!
    • Norman 3 months ago
      Screwy......BUT TRUTHFULLY FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Paris Paraskevas 3 months ago
      you are right Bob
  • Patriot Alice  •  3 months ago
    Greece sold the freedom away. USA is selling their freedom away too...Stop borrowing...
  • Newton  •  3 months ago
    The whole world knows this is a farce. Greece is already functionally in default.
    • j 3 months ago
      As is the entire globe.
  • Patriot Alice  •  3 months ago
    Why do the leaders continue to sell their country's future away? Personal gain?
    • seriously 3 months ago
      Sounds kinda USAish.
    • UNI-B 3 months ago
      Ya stupid, like you dont know the answer, what are you and the rest of the sheep going to do? Nothing, so shut the hell up, genius
  • Curly  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 months ago
    I hope the European Union are not expecting to ever get paid back.
  • backhoe  •  3 months ago
    You know that we are pretty close to being where Greece is right now. We have "Big Bernie" and his even bigger printing press keeping us going for the moment. There will be a time when we will need to be bailed out. Any guess who will bail us out? LOL, no one! I am sorry to feel that most countries can't wait for the US to crash and burn.
  • Robert  •  3 months ago
    Nobody in mainstream talking about what will happen when Oblahmaumau bucks drop through the floor after we miss a payment to China!! It will be Bush's fault when twenty obamabucks will only buy a gallon of gas, an RC and a moonpie for his base.
  • Yahoo User  •  3 months ago
    Greece Motors?? This deal sounds a lot like the GM deal where they borrowed money from a different government lending window in order to pay back their first goverment loan. They didn't owe any less money but declared victory that they had paid back the original loan. How is this any different?
  • Rebmik  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 months ago
    Jean-Claude Juncker, it is not for you to deliver, it is not YOUR money. It is for the Greeks to deliver, like they should have years ago. With your advanced education Jean-Claude you should know better. The average person (with a very average education) knows that Greece is like that one relative every family has: perpetually borrowing money with no visible means of ever paying it back. Jean-Claude Juncker, you are trying to avoid the inevitable pain of Greece's default with too many accounting tricks, and you are using resources that belong to future generations, not to you Jean-Claude. You are ruining the credibility of your class, while trying vainly too maintain the status quo that is bankrupt. It is almost Jean-Claude like you are sitting in a tennis court in 1789 Paris and fail to see it! Wake Up!
  • Patriot Alice  •  3 months ago
    Where is the benefit in the future of keeping Greece in the Euro? I see, future slave labor...
  • Vkf  •  Athens, Greece  •  3 months ago
    Guys I am a Greek, 99% of greeks want drahma and stop this parody!
  • Mr. Wheel  •  Austin, Texas  •  3 months ago
    You are looking at America in the not to distant future ! Wake up voters !
  • Patriot Alice  •  3 months ago
    They'll be asking for more, since their economy isn't going to grow with this bailout....The black hole of Europe.....
  • DV  •  Decatur, Illinois  •  3 months ago
    Greece do the right thing and default on your debt and start over with sane sustainable fiscal policies. Give the Greek people the opportunity to learn to work for what they have and not to depend on the government from cradle to grave for their care and wellbeing. The big banks and insurance companies have made tons of money lending to Greece and have charged a Kings ransome to insure your bonds against default so its time they pay up to investors who should be paid 100% for the insured bonds these banking and insurance theives have insured. Investors will not be hurt and the Greek people can start fresh providing for themselves and not have this unsustainable debt and socialist mentality to further destroy the Nations soul.
  • Tom  •  3 months ago
    Greece should never have been accepted into the Eurozone in the first place. The deal should include an orderly exit from the currency.
  • itslikethis  •  Pensacola, Florida  •  3 months ago
    Everbody takes notes on how the average Greek handles the collapse. That will take out a lot of the guesswork for us when it's our turn.
  • Blondebluefl  •  Miami, Florida  •  3 months ago
    NEW AUSTERITY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They still haven't lived up to the austerity measures voted in last year. Greece is a joke. They come to the world leaders with their hands out and promise the moon and deliver nothing. Even there wealthiest are skirting the tax laws, or leaving the country. Let them go back to the Drachma.
  • Jerry  •  Atlanta, Georgia  •  3 months ago
    Greece is not going to do anything after they get $. Why should they when someone else will pay it. They should default and work it out themselves. However, banks have to much to lose so they will get the bailout and the people get the invoice
 
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