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Greece, creditors close in on debt cut deal

By George Georgiopoulos and Sophie Sassard

ATHENS/LONDON (Reuters) - Greece was closing in on an initial deal with private bond holders on Friday that would prevent it from tumbling into a chaotic default but lose investors up to 70 percent of the loans they have given to Athens.

The agreement, to be followed up by technical talks over the weekend, could come later in the day, sources close to the negotiations said.

Private bondholders would most likely incur a real loss of 65 to 70 percent, with the new bonds having a 30-year maturity and offering a progressive coupon, or interest rate, averaging out at 4 percent, a banking official close to the talks told Reuters.

Cash-strapped Greece is fast running out of time as it pushes to wrap up an agreement by Monday paving the way for a fresh injection of aid before 14.5 billion euros ($18.5 billion)of bond repayments fall due in March.

"There could be a pre-agreement tonight, but technical discussions with the lawyers will likely continue over the week-end and next week," another source close to talks said, adding that involving the ECB in the deal was also discussed.

"We expect them to make an effort as well. It could be through a special deal, as you would expect for a body like the ECB," the source said.

After a breakdown in talks last week over the coupon, or interest payment, that Greece must offer on its new bonds raised fears of a disastrous bankruptcy, the two sides resumed negotiations on Thursday.

Charles Dallara, who negotiates in the name of the private bondholders through the International Institute of Finance, will meet with senior Greek officials later in the day, Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos said after concluding a first round of talks in the morning.

In a carefully choreographed series of meetings, senior euro zone finance ministers will hold a conference call and Prime Minister Lucas Papademos will meet chief EU, IMF and ECB inspectors before resuming talks with Dallara.

HIGH STAKES

The stakes could not be higher. Greece needs to have a deal in the bag before funds are doled out from a 130 billion euro rescue plan that the country's official lenders, the European Union and the International Monetary Fund, drew up in October.

The paperwork involved alone is expected to take weeks, meaning failure to secure a deal soon could put Athens at risk of a chaotic default in March, which in turn could jolt the financial system and tip the global economy into recession.

Adding to the pressure, officials from the "troika" of foreign lenders have begun meetings with the Greek government on Friday to discuss reforms and plans to finalize that bailout package.

"The deal must be completed. There is no more time left," said a Greek government official who requested anonymity.

The swap is aimed at cutting 100 billion euros off Greece's over 350 billion euro debt load. The second bailout - drawn up on condition Greece pushes through painful cuts and structural reforms - is expected to reduce Greece's debt to a more manageable 120 percent of gross domestic product in 2020 from about 160 percent now.

Investors have also bridled at Greece's threat to enforce losses if not enough bondholders sign up to the deal.

Greece is stumbling through its worst economic crisis since World War Two, with unemployment at record highs and near-daily protests and strikes against austerity measures that have deepened an already brutal recession.

Nearly one out of two youths is unemployed and anger against waves of tax hikes and pay cuts is running high.

(Additional reporting by Athens bureau; Writing by Ingrid Melander and Harry Papachristou. Editing by Jeremy Gaunt.)

 

71 comments

  • Big Lou64  •  Downers Grove, Illinois  •  1 month 7 days ago
    Anyway this comes out, Greece is in default. An agreement with the creditors is just an orderly default. Either way, the ones holding Greek bonds are going to take it in the pooper. I love how the news agencies word things. Making it seem like there is a good outcome to this. Well, they're just doing what their rich overlord owners are demanding.
  • Allen  •  1 month 7 days ago
    No matter what they say, "taking a haircut" IS A DEFAULT!
  • Scott  •  1 month 6 days ago
    Losing 70 percent of a bond is a DEFAULT.
  • Patriot Alice  •  1 month 6 days ago
    Who is in default? Come again? The creditors are on their knees hoping to get 30% of lost investments...Greece is defaulting their creditors.....Ha, ha...
  • anonymous  •  1 month 7 days ago
    Who in the world would loan money to Greece when they can't pay back the money they owe now?
  • H  •  1 month 7 days ago
    They've already defaulted when they received that 50% loan reduction forced on to the banks by the ECB because they could't repay it.

    Their continuing drama only shows they have no ability to repay w/o the loan holders taking a big loss.
  • P  •  1 month 7 days ago
    It doesn't matter what they SAY, it is what ends up happening that will be the problem. You can say you will do this and that, but actually doing it is another story.
  • soundsok  •  1 month 7 days ago
    Investors will Lose up to 70 percent of the loans they have given to Greece but they will still Default.
  • Scott  •  1 month 6 days ago
    Loaning money to ANYONE is this world is a joke. Better to convert to gold, bury it and wait for after the Global 'reset' button is pushed.
  • MichaelJ  •  Houston, Texas  •  1 month 6 days ago
    I suppose this will work for awhile but sooner or later I'm betting the average German worker will realise they are paying for the Greek welfare state.
  • Blaine  •  Salt Lake City, Utah  •  1 month 6 days ago
    As normal people watch in astonishment, the Brilliant People and Government People wallow in wasted words.

    To not recognize "default" with NGO and Government loans those Brills and Govs are pretending that Greece is not Bankrupt if it simply DEFAULTS on the Bond Holder loans.

    Cool. Greece is half pregnant.
    Greece is also BANKRUPT . . . regardless of what the Brilliant fools want the bigger fools (us apparently) to believe.

    Charades, Lies, Hypocrisy and Dishonesty. The hallmarks of today's corrupt leadership.
  • Kibble  •  1 month 6 days ago
    Higher printing speeds will be needed by the Central Banks to pay off a trillion dollars in EU deficits. I guess the IMF is supposed to help all countries in need but it is another political organization incorrectly run by the US and EU.
  • Chris Matthews at MSDNC  •  1 month 7 days ago
    More STATE RUN MEDIA propaganda, they are not paying the creditors what they agreed to pay in the real world that is called a default. Try paying only 50% of your mortgage and see how that works out for you.
  • Larry  •  Capitol Heights, Maryland  •  1 month 6 days ago
    IMF is supposed to assist emerging countries with inexperienced governments that have met financial/economic disaster from world events out of their control. In the case of Greece, the IMF is doling out the equivalent of US$100s billions to a developed, experienced govt. The Greek govt is experienced in conducting fraudulent govt financing in order to finance an excellent lifestyle by the wealthy and politically connected. The IMF should be focused on assisting worthy govts rather than a group of wealthy bureaucrats with no intention of ever paying back the US$100s of billions that the govt has borrowed. Why not just let the govt default and be shut off from the global financial markets, like Argentina has been for a decade, and live on a "cash budget" for current and future expenses? The fact that the ECB and EU members are being protected from taking any losses on their investment in Greek bonds is another travesty. It is not the way public finance is conducted in the UK or the US. If the US FED purchases a bond that defaults and creates a loss, the FED takes the loss for the American Taxpayer. Why should the European govts backing the ECB be exempt from taking any losses on any Euro govt bonds? Of course, the govt is financing from taxpayer resources about 1/3 of the IMF lending resources. Also, the US FED has an unlimited line of credit to the ECB so that they can lend to their European banks.
  • Kenneth R  •  Nyack, New York  •  1 month 7 days ago
    If this were true, that the bondholders were near a deal then you would see Greek bond yields start to narrow. But to date this is not the case.
  • Eat Healthy  •  Honolulu, Hawaii  •  1 month 7 days ago
    How much American money is involved in these credit swaps? The drop in the dollar and rise in precious metals tells me that Bernanke is once again printing money to be used in these CDS. I hope that I am wrong.
  • inspired thought  •  1 month 6 days ago
    so if the markets have already priced in the losses (we know they have, yahoo finance has indicated this many times), why is everyone rushing to give greece all this money? what is going on here? what do they know?
  • Howard  •  Houston, Texas  •  1 month 6 days ago
    I wonder who is going to be stupid enough to finance them now? The only way any real investor would finance them would be to have a 7%+ rate on the face of the bonds bought at a 70% discount. It is stupid to keep throwing good TAXPAYER dollars of other countries in this rat hole. Stop the money!!!!
  • Near-O  •  Atlanta, Georgia  •  1 month 6 days ago
    A global recession comes down to Greece. Who woulda thunk it? Also gives you the idea that even after Greece is secure for another month, we are still ready to fall further into depression. Green shoots have sprung up an died my friends.
  • WarParty2012  •  Boston, Massachusetts  •  1 month 7 days ago
    Greece needs to defualt for the good of its people. The only reason the market cares is the banks sold a bunch of uncovered CDSs again. The banks need to learn not to sell CDSs they cant cover, if they keep getting saved their just going to do it again and again.
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