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Greece lowers recovery expectations

Greece lowers recovery expectations, insists new bailout will 'bind' it to the euro

ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Greece on Wednesday insisted a new euro130 billion ($172 billion) bailout deal will "bind" it to the euro, but again lowered expectations of recovery as it faced skeptical world markets, continued protests and another downgrade of its debt deeper into junk status.

As the government scrambled to push new austerity measures, Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos said the new rescue package approved by eurozone countries would shield Greece from default.

"The agreement is of historic importance, because it binds Greece to the euro," Venizelos told private Mega television.

"It was not only the approval of the euro130 billion in additional support for Greece. But this also comes with a European commitment ... of support for as long as in necessary for Greece to return to the markets."

He added: "This is a decisive and irreversible action by our partners: Greece is a member of the euro and will remain a member of the euro and there is no issue of bankruptcy, there is no issue of the country's financial collapse."

Earlier, around 6,000 protesters chanting "EU out, IMF out!" marched through central Athens in a peaceful rally against the new austerity measures.

Eurozone countries on Tuesday approved the new bailout deal, and a euro107 billion ($141 billion) debt writedown by banks and other private holders of Greek bonds.

In response, Fitch downgraded Greece's credit rating further into junk status, from 'CCC' to 'C' — one notch above default — while world markets appeared nervous at the prospects of forcing through new austerity measures in a country stuck in recession for a fifth year and with unemployment topping 20 percent.

Shares on the Athens Stock Exchange fell 5.67 percent to 751.96, as banks sustained heavy losses.

New austerity measures include slashing pensions and benefits, and cutting the minimum wage from euro751 to euro580 per month, defying pleas from unions and employers who argue warn the recession will deepen dramatically.

Dimitris Asimakopoulos, leader of a small business association, GSEVEE, presented a new study predicting that 100,000 more workers in the retail sector are likely to lose their jobs in the first six months of the year.

"The study reveals, with facts and figures, that we are unfortunately stuck in the mire of recession," Asimakopoulos said. "We will not emerge from this with wishful thinking about competitiveness and euro300 salaries."

In Parliament, lawmakers are preparing to debate emergency legislation that revises the 2012 budget and outlines additional budget cuts worth euro3.2 billion ($4.2 billion).

Under the revision, the budget deficit target was increased to 6.7 percent of gross domestic product, from an initial forecast of 5.4 percent. Even worse, plans for a modest primary surplus in 2012 — which excludes debt servicing costs — have been scrapped and Greece will instead post a primary deficit of nearly euro500 million ($661 million), or 0.2 percent of GDP.

Venizelos said legislation on the bond-swap deal had to be passed by late Thursday "because otherwise we will not meet our deadlines."

The coalition government has 193 deputies in the 300-seat assembly.

Private investors will swap their Greek government bonds for new ones with less than half the face value, longer repayment periods and lower interest rates — an average 3.6 percent compared to the previous 4.85 percent. Greece wants the swap to take place by March 12.

But even with the writedown, Greece's national debt will be reduced at best from euro368 billion ($487 billion), or nearly 170 percent of GDP last year to 120 percent in 2020 — around the level it was in 2009.

The latest budget cuts, detailed Wednesday include: euro400 million ($530 million) from pensions; euro170 million ($225 million) from health and education; euro500 million ($661 million) from other health care subsidies; euro570 million ($754 million) on spending for medicine; euro400 million ($529 million) from defense.

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Elena Becatoros contributed to this report.

 

26 comments

  • Jonathan  •  Miami, Florida  •  3 months ago
    The Greek people bet on their government instead of themselves. . .and lost. Same thing is happening in the US. . .and we too, will lose. What a pity.
  • Two Cents  •  3 months ago
    Part of the package was to reduce minimum wages..How stupid is that, lets make the poor even more poor. Are rents, food, fuel, and everything else going to lower as well? The wealthy got off free and the poor will suffer again.
    • William 3 months ago
      Two cents. With 20% unemployment you have wages that are priced above what that labor could produce. If you can not find employment at $100 per hour, you might as well ask for $200 per hour as it makes no difference in the result. There is a market for labor in the private sector just as there is for bananas..
    • Two Cents 3 months ago
      William, I understand that. But the rest of the economy will not lower costs to reflect the reduced wages, thus my position.
  • Keith  •  3 months ago
    Since the markets increase on expectation and decrease on actuality I'm surprised the Greeks weren't more like us and saying that their recession ended in, say, June 2009 and now thanks to the IMF they are in a full recvovery.

    Lowers expectations? How is that even possible?
  • Mike  •  3 months ago
    Lol, yeah, AFTER they get the latest bailout, they lower expectations ...
  • Joe Panda  •  Naples, Florida  •  3 months ago
    What does Greece export?? Got me.
  • me  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 months ago
    Welcome to hell people, and guess what euro. is going down in 3 to 4 months......
  • Two Cents  •  3 months ago
    The bailout only serviced previous debt and added more. How can that be good in any way shape or form? Now they have to allow monitors into the country, who pays for that? They now have a special account to ensure repayment. Who controls Greece now? Definitely not the greeks.
    • William 3 months ago
      And what will the monitors do, arrest rebellious Greek politicians ? It seems that to enforce compliance with lower Greek government spending it would have been wiser to give them the money to meet the next month' s bond payment and then see what they do..
    • Two Cents 3 months ago
      William, I agree. The bailout should have been completed as guaranteed installments. But then again, I also feel they should have defaulted period. I am no fan of the IMF or World Bank. And I think the ECB is just like them. Banks should never be allowed to dictate policy.
  • Douglas  •  3 months ago
    And when does a recession become a depression? Is there an official definition.

    Greece economy is going down the toilet faster than the rest of EU can pump money in... and Greece is not the only bankrupt nation.

    I love how Greek politicians say that the rest of the EU has their backs. It is amazing that the EU is chaining themselves to this anchor called Greece, how long will it take Greece to exhaust the latest bailout? 1 month? 2 months? 6? Does it matter?

    Will Greece ever be able to dig itself out of the hole it is in without decoupling from the euro and monetizing their debt through currency devaluation? The answer is no.

    ...

    Even if the EU pays off all Greece's current debt, Greece will just be back in debt in a few years because they don't make enough to cover what they spend. Each austerity measure they pursue reduces overall GDP at the same or lesser amount than the debt is being reduced... it's like trying to drink yourself sober...

    And what other EU countries are going to want to work to keep their spending under control if all they have to do is threaten default and the EU will provide them free money.

    It's a race to the bottom, with the socialists / liberals leading the charge... you can't address poverty with handouts... all it leads is to more people with their hands out, and less people willing to work.
  • blame yourself  •  3 months ago
    Lower expectation or simply know and admit it won't work?

    Whats the difference- too much government is too much government.

    Free market capaitalist/ soverign curerncy economy or poverty and street riots, take your pick.

    It's hard to care anymore.
  • ok  •  Hartford, Connecticut  •  3 months ago
    OK ,,ANYONE CAN REALLY ANSWER THIS ??? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO USE THE 170 BILLION EUROS ??? THEY ARE CUTTING EVERYTHING,,,THEY WILL FIRE THOUSANDS? SO BESIDES THE OFF SHORE BANK ACCOUNTS ,,,,WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO USE THE MONEY ???? ANY ONE ? ??
    • Two Cents 3 months ago
      To pay old debt, that is what is going to happen. The people will see none of this, except for the new riot shields, tear gas, and water cannons.
    • Headlley 3 months ago
      The entire point of them getting the 170 Billion Euros is specifically to pay old debt, it is meant for nothing else. That being said, I'm sure bureaucracy/corruption will find a way to siphon off a nice chunk.
  • William  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 months ago
    How do you not say it is a default when you are forcing bond holders to take less than what they lent.? At least this should entitlet a bond insurance payment on the loss if they were insured.
    • Headlley 3 months ago
      It's all semantics. The CDS's (bond insurance) only triggers if there is a "credit event". Most of the time this involves a "disorderly" default. This is not considered disorderly because the private bondholders, well about 90-95% of them have agreed to voluntarily take the write downs. The interesting part will be what happens to those other 5-10% of private bond holders that get forced to take the write downs with Greece's new "collective action clauses". I have yet to hear any opinions as to why forcing 5-10% of the lenders to take write downs ISN'T a credit event. I'm guessing there is just a lot of stalling going on right now because noone knows how big of a bomb the CDS's are yet.
    • Headlley 3 months ago
      Oh, one thing on the bond insurance payments. They get face value of the bond being insured, so it's a pretty huge deal. The CDS writers are completely screwed if they get triggered...may even default themselves who knows. What comes around goes around, I guess the world of finance is just starting to learn that one.
  • me  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 months ago
    Don't worry the Fed will print some dollars for you spend as much as you want too.
  • Douglas  •  3 months ago
    So explain to me how they can just legislate re-writing the terms of their bonds?

    How is this not a default?

    Did the private investors all agree to this "haircut"?

    If they didn't agree to it, then if Greece doesn't pay on the original terms, Greece is in default, and any CDS should kick in.
  • Tuy  •  3 months ago
    Kicking the can down the road. I am taking 1000 to 1 odds that we will see this again in 6-12 months unless they can get away with charging $65 for a Gyro.
  • Rimvydas  •  Lemont, Illinois  •  3 months ago
    Bend over and support the euro. Who needs it? The bankers do.
  • Deano  •  Santa Ana, California  •  3 months ago
    Polishing a turd still leaves you with a turd. This cannot possibly end well.
  • Asian Dragon  •  3 months ago
    THE GREEK GOVERNMENT is corrupt, ill-minded, greedy, and bankrupt. Equally shameful is that most Greek citizens are lazy (low spirit) and unproductive; the Greeks have been relentlessly cheating the world for century. Indeed, the government’s decade of massive irresponsibly spending on other nations’ money - intentionally cooking the books - and are now forced to reduce (smaller) expenditures.

    WHAT are these people (the Greeks) UPSET about?

    Where do the Greeks think the money (Free Lunch) to pay them monthly (Enlightenment Programs) come from? Bailout Funds are from members of EU, IMF + China.
    Both recognizing and admitting that their government has no money, what are the options for the Greeks?

    -Throw stones on the street and destroy buildings? Set fire and burn their nation’s forest as the Greeks always did? Is this so-called Greek’s civilization?

    Unfortunately, the Greek’s Unpaid Bill of 600+ Billion Euros (A tiny nation with mountain of debt) has severe consequences on every corner of the world. Already, it created huge negative effect on the “Sovereign Bond Market” across Europe.
  • Ron  •  3 months ago
    The Germans are going to have to work harder to support the 24/7 Greek economy (working 24 hours a week, seven months a year)
  • Money Multiplier Man  •  3 months ago
    It seems these days that the nicer climate a country has, the less competitive its economy is.
  • Farmer  •  Seattle, Washington  •  3 months ago
    This where hopey and changey gets you. The only difference between them and us is that because we will run the printing presses until they melt down---we will have to go through a severe devaluation of our currency before we hit bottom. Zimbabwae == usa
 
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