How hedge fund legend Jim Simons went from cracking codes to cracking financial markets

Jim Simons
Jim Simons

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Jim Simons, the investor who founded the hedge fund Renaissance Technologies, gave a rare interview to TED's Chris Anderson to chat about his stint at the National Security Agency, his hedge fund, and the role scientists can play in finance.

Simons spent time cracking codes at the NSA early in his career before moving on to investing.

He told Anderson that his hedge fund used some of the same skills he used at the NSA to get an early read on what to buy and sell in financial markets.

He said: "When I started doing trading, I had gotten a little tired of mathematics. I was in my late 30s, I had a little money. I started trading and it went very well. I made quite a lot of money with pure luck. I mean, I think it was pure luck. It certainly wasn't mathematical modeling.

"But in looking at the data, after a while I realized: it looks like there's some structure here. And I hired a few mathematicians, and we started making some models — just the kind of thing we did back at IDA [Institute for Defense Analyses]. You design an algorithm, you test it out on a computer. Does it work? Doesn't it work? And so on."

Simons' $22 billion hedge fund is known for bringing in mathematicians, astronomers, and physicists into the trading world.

Simons said: "I didn't really know how to hire people to do fundamental trading. I had hired a few. Some made money — some didn't make money.

"But I did know how to hire scientists because I have some taste in that department. So, that's what we did. And gradually these models got better and better, and better and better."

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