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    Mom's on hook for daughter's card debt

    Fantasy Finance

    Dear Opening Credits,
    Twenty-two years ago, my mother co-signed on a credit card with me. I have managed and taken care of the account. They never contacted her regarding the account. I had actually forgotten that she was on the account with me. Originally, there was a $1,000 limit on the card. It eventually went up to a $30,000 limit. I recently filed bankruptcy with a $24,000 balance on this card, and now the credit card company is harassing my mom about the account. They have not sent bills or any correspondence to her, nor have they had a correct address for her in 20 years. Is she liable for the whole $24,000?  -- Jennifer 

    Dear Person,
    I'm a little surprised that you and your mom had forgotten about her designation as a co-signer . Sure, it was a long time ago, but had either of you pulled and read your credit reports in any of those 22 years, you would have seen the account plainly listed. A jointly held notation next to that trade line would have been immediately apparent. It should have also been glaring to your bankruptcy lawyer and come up during the proceedings.

    But, let's return to what happened when your mother generously lent her good credit rating to you. Perhaps you were young and unestablished in the wide world of borrowing and repaying, yet wanted a credit card of your own. Nice parent that she was, she signed her name to the paperwork, which guaranteed to the issuer that if you ever failed to pay, she would cover the balance due.

    So you charged. At first you had a low spending limit and all was swell, but when they upped it dramatically, the balance grew along with it. Eventually you got in over your head and took the matter to court, where you were legally absolved of it and other allocable debts.

    Here is where the case gets problematic. Decades ago, your mom agreed to pay the account if you didn't. And now, after you absolved yourself of liability, the creditor is calling her on that promise. Not only does that make sense, it's probably perfectly within their rights. However, to make sure, I contacted bankruptcy lawyer, Jeena Cho, of the JC Law group out of San Francisco. And the verdict? Mom owes. "If she's a co-signer, unfortunately, the mother is responsible for it," says Cho. That they never sent her a letter is irrelevant.

    In fact, the only way out that Cho can see is if that debt is so old that the creditor can no longer sue your mom. "The statute of limitation may have run," says Cho, "making the debt uncollectible against the mother." To find out, check the date of last payment or when the creditor charged the account off (whichever came last), as well as the statute of limitations for your state . In the event that time frame has run, there's nothing they can do to legally force her into a payment.

    Assuming your mom is on the hook, though, you should do everything possible to alleviate any financial and credit damage she may suffer because of it. I know it must be highly frustrating for you, because filing for bankruptcy is a tough, unpleasant process. Most people who go through it only do so as a last resort. Now you have about $24,000 remaining that you thought was gone plus a bankruptcy on your credit reports? That's awful. Still, the correct response is for you to send mom large, steady checks. Have her pass them on to the creditor so her credit stays healthy and so they don't take her to court for nonpayment. 

    See related: 5 ways to rebuild credit after bankruptcy , Co-signing your kid's credit is great, unless it endangers yours

     

    27 comments

    • !  •  4 months ago
      The moral of the story is never cosign for the open ended debt of another person.
      • Pancha 4 months ago
        especially if they're family!!!!!!
    • john z  •  4 months ago
      Not a very responsible person is she?????????? Loves to spend but doesn't like to pay it back. Cut them up dearie and use cash. If you don't have the cash at hand, don't buy. Life's that easy.
      • EJ 4 months ago
        Sounds like you never lost a job unexpectedly. Things happen. Don't talk unless you have been in this situation. Things can go sour really quick with the economy the way it is...Don't judge unless you know the whole story.
      • Jason R 4 months ago
        EJ so it's ok to charge the money just because you lost your job and then not pay it back when one doesn't come along? You sir and people like you, are what is wrong with this country
      • Dann 4 months ago
        Pull your head out EJ !!! The chick renegged on 24GRAND. If YOU were the creditor you'd be SCREAMING!!!

        John is pointing out the OBVIOUS --- Irresponsibility, now spend only the CASH you have.
    • IE dude  •  Irvine, California  •  4 months ago
      ouchhhhhhh .... You should've removed her from the account liability before the bankruptcy filing..... say a month or two before......since the mistake is done, now if you are a good daughter you will suck it up and assume responsibility for the balance and pay it off......lesson learned: ALWAYS KEEP RECORDS OF EVERYTHING AND DOUBLE CHECK for consequences on THIRD PARTIESPARTY
    • sunset  •  4 months ago
      As a co-signer, shouldn't the Mom have been notified each time the bank raised the credit limit? Mom only agreed to the $1,000.00 credit limit when she co-signed. Co-signers also need rights in this world. Bet there will be a lot of Moms and Dads checking for those credit cards tonight.
      • Athena 4 months ago
        Good point, but it's not clear from this article whether the guarantee was for only the original $1,000 limit or any increases as well.
      • Pancha 4 months ago
        The guarantee is for the account, not the amount.
      • Angry Mick 4 months ago
        Co-signers do have rights - they have to right to either sign or not to sign. People need to start taking accountability for their actions. When you co-sign you are agreeing if the original contract holder defaults, then you will assume responsibility.
    • David  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  4 months ago
      I do not care what the law says! You borrow it, you pay it back. Time does not matter!
      No wonder this country is in bad shape. Everybody wants a free ride!
    • KRee  •  Philadelphia, Pennsylvania  •  4 months ago
      What did she and her Mother think co-signing was? The irresponsibility of this women is just stunning.
      Reply
    • Brian Brekke  •  4 months ago
      Well there goes any inheiretence you might of got...Moms not a happy camper...You went from number 1 to number2 if you know what i mean
    • Che  •  4 months ago
      Pay Up,I get so sick of people trying to play the victim take some responsiblity for your dead beat life.
      • Dann 4 months ago
        Do you actually know who/what Che Guevera was#$%$.. Maybe you should do some research loser.
    • disappointed  •  Hicksville, New York  •  4 months ago
      cosigner = jerk with pen.
    • The J-Train  •  4 months ago
      People in credit card debt just need to stop paying anything on their high balance cards and let the 7-10 year statute of limitation runs out. Live by paying cash and old school personal checks and use a debit card not connected to the banks that issued the credit cards that are being "deadbeated" from. LET THE PAST REMAIN IN THE PAST. Live a more thrifty lifestyle at one with Gaia and purge the demons of materialism from thine soul.
    • anne  •  Nampa, Idaho  •  4 months ago
      Boy are you dumb.............
    • Pancha  •  4 months ago
      Same is true if you're a co-signer and get a divorce. Make sure any jointly-owned credit cards are cancelled. Not just cut up, but cancelled and get a copy of the confirmation that the account is cancelled. I learned the hard way, and my credit rating is still suffering because I had to negotiate a lower payment plan. But it's there on my record. The ex got new cards, kept charging with the card in MY name, and then stopped paying. Who did they come after?
    • Annon  •  4 months ago
      the letter is signed "Jennifer'...so WHY is the response addressed "Dear Person"???
    • Annon  •  4 months ago
      geez...what a RIDICULOUS WORDY response...I think a "yes, your mother as cosigner is liable" would have sufficed
    • Otto Pilot  •  Spring Branch, Texas  •  4 months ago
      Your mom's legs are as good as broken.
    • Randy  •  4 months ago
      stuff like this is called stupid tax..you folks did something stupid (co-signing a credit card) now pay the stupid tax.
    • Brad  •  Salt Lake City, Utah  •  4 months ago
      Great reference on the statute of limitations. If the statute of limitations hasn't expired it's time for Mom to call the creditor and begin the negotiation process to have them reduce the debt. At CreditSense we have had success with our customers getting over 60% of debts forgiven with an agreed payment plan.
    • Lady Blah Blah  •  4 months ago
      All those Starbucks trips paid for by the taxpayers.
    • Lady Blah Blah  •  4 months ago
      You deal with the devil when you deal with credit cards; they can earn 30% interest while you can earn .05%. Personally I believe they should only charge 7% interest. I have to say they are 100% accurate though in doing business, I never find a mistake so they sure know how to do a good job.
    • Lady Blah Blah  •  4 months ago
      People who do this are childlike narcissists. The sad thing is that they think that a marriage makes them an adult. That a job makes them one. That kids make them one. No one should co sign on anything. The only thing that can have two names on it is a mortgage, but that should be based on one income.

      People who file bankruptcy go right back on there and buy more things they can't afford and don't need. Some file it over and over again. There's something internally inside that's missing, and with some it reaks of weakness that they let it go on.

      When you see "everyone else" that has it all and try to fit into that be prepared for the same possible problems they really have.

      There's something wrong when people are affording to eat out all the time, or when they don't suffer the first year of buying a home; on the contrary, they're buying expensive clothes, vacationing, eating out, etc.....America never used to be like that until phony money was used and women started working, creating an expectation that the cost of living required it.

      What's even really weird is when there's plenty of money coming in and they still end up with this problem even if they do do the work around the house. There's all sorts of reasons why people do this and all of them are a deficiency in a person. Life is not that easy.

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