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Money managers, analysts comment on Facebook IPO

Will Facebook shares be a good investment? Money managers, analysts weigh in on IPO

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Facebook is finally going public.

For investors lucky enough to get in on the IPO, the question is simple: Is this going to be the mother lode that puts their kids through college? Or an over-hyped dud?

Facebook, whose stock ticker symbol will be FB, won't trade for a couple months. Between now and then, debates about how the stock will do are going to be as heated as the one between Giants and Patriots fans this week over who will win the Super Bowl. To kick things off, The Associated Press asked some top money managers and analysts for their immediate reaction to Facebook's regulatory filing Wednesday evening for a $5 billion IPO.

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KEVIN LANDIS, chief investment officer of Firsthand Capital Management, the investment adviser to Firsthand Funds. The fund group includes Firsthand Technology Value Fund, a closed-end fund whose top holding is Facebook's private shares. Those shares represent 5 percent of the fund's assets.

— Disclosures in the filing about Facebook's $3.7 billion in revenue last year and 845 million users have increased his confidence that Facebook can eventually become a profit powerhouse:

"They're nicely profitable at a few billion in revenue. It probably means they will be obscenely profitable once they get to $10 and $20 billion.

"It's probably growing north of 50 percent (a year), so they will be dropping more and more cash to the bottom line.

"As they grow into their potential, those profitability numbers, which are already really good, should get better and better, which is pretty amazing."

— As for the $5 billion Facebook is seeking to raise:

"I think most people were figuring it could go out at up to $100 billion valuation, and they would float 5 to 10 percent of it, so that is right in the ballpark.

"You start out with a modest number. But gosh, you're living right if $5 billion is a modest number."

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CHRISTOPHER BAGGINI, senior portfolio manager, Turner Titan mutual fund:

"I think the offering is a bit small in terms of the number of shares to be offered, and I suspect the $5 billion they expect to raise will be increased during the IPO process.

"If you can own the stock for an intermediate term, I suspect you will make money. Remember, when Google went public, the stock was valued at roughly $27 billion in 2003. It reached almost $200 billion by 2007. With Facebook, you have a very high growth, early stage company that has a profitability model that will be very similar to Google's."

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JACK ABLIN, chief investment officer at Harris Private Bank in Chicago:

"I believe there's a group that will buy this stock no matter how it's priced. There's a group — hedge funds or other large investors — that will buy all the social media issues because they don't know which one will be the next Google.

"Looking back on the Internet days of the '90s, one Google will pay for 100 Pet.coms.

"It's kind of a wildcatting type approach — you have to be involved in all of them."

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KARSTEN WEIDE, analyst with technology researcher IDC:

"This filing implies Facebook is valued at $100 billion, which I think is too high. That's about 27 times more than their 2011 revenue. But even assuming they can double revenue this year, I think it's too high. It's reminiscent of the valuations for stocks in the Internet 1.0 days.

"Even if it were valued at just at $80 billion, I think it would be too high. There are a number of challenges and risks Facebook faces, and one is the growth of Google Plus (a rival social networking site)."

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GARETH FEIGHERY, CEO of MarketTamer.com, a stock and options training website:

"The retail investor should be really skeptical of purchasing into the hype.

"Longer term, if investors are looking to hold it for many, many years, there's a great opportunity. But in the short term, there's a high level of risk that they could purchase on one of the spikes and get punished."

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TIMOTHY KEATING of Keating Capital Inc., a firm that makes investments in small private companies that expect to go public:

"Facebook could be one of the greatest companies on the planet."

But Keating says that won't necessarily make the stock a good buy. It all depends on the price.

He says investors will compare the price of Facebook's shares with those of companies such as Google and Apple, and assess whether Facebook is richly priced measured against its earnings and sales growth potential. But Facebook is a younger company, which could lead investors to bid its shares up higher than the relative prices of Google and Apple.

"One could argue that Facebook still has huge growth prospects ahead of them, so they deserve a premium valuation."

 

10 comments

  • big D  •  3 months ago
    I vote for over hyped dud.. LOOKS LIKE WALL STREET AND GOLDMAN HAVE FOUND THE NEWEST PONZI SCHEME TO STEAL YOUR 401K SAVINGS... FACEBOOK = MYSPACE = BULLETIN BOARDS WITH PICTURES AND INSTANT MESSAGING...LOL.. WHAT A FARCE.
    • steve p 3 months ago
      Just for the record. Morgan STanley, not Goldman is bringing this IPO.
  • nailed  •  3 months ago
    DO NOT TRY AND SHORT THIS ON OPENING!! Zukerberg, Goldman, Morgan Stanley all know there is a massive downside and they will make money out of you if you short it. Best is to stay clear and wait for the market to settle and digest this ponzi website investment. I actualy think the yahoo comments section would be worth more than FB if they simply but a field which allows you to show if you are single or divorced!
  • matchpoint  •  3 months ago
    If this stock is such an obvious good buy then why are Zuckerberg en Co trying sell a piece of it?
  • fedup  •  Pleasanton, California  •  3 months ago
    difficult to say here its free advertising for businesses no postal charges for ads but unless the companies are giving away free stuff or running a contest I dont think they will keep their friends for very long and personally thats all I think its good for. So sure if your giving away something or running a contest Ill be like you friend for just that reason and when your done Im gone. JMPO. So lets see how long those companies will stick it out. As for fb as a social site I prefer my privacey so I dont go there. Email is safer and a bit more private with lots more control. So I guess its inflated just like Zucks ego with no real privacy concerns for the user and he is pimping out all fb users getting rich as an advertising middle man. Prwtty nice scam for him
  • Hurricanes  •  3 months ago
    I agree. This IPO is a set-up for the public. It will gyrate intra-day, no doubt. It will move violently fast with computer trading. Goldman Sachs along with the rest of the criminal operators in Wall Street will be at the controls gleefully taking your money. THEY HAVE ONE PROBLEM....intra-day trading volumes are critically LOW....the public and baby boomers have had enough of the Crash of '08 and know how corrupt and criminal Wall Street is. They know how corrupt the D.C. politicians have become throughout the years. And, we're tired of losing money. They, of course, want your last nickel, before they will be satisfied...if life was "fair" on Wall Street, we'd all be happy, but we KNOW that isn't true. And, don't kid yourself, the Wall Street traders are FULLY AWARE when we place our peon orders. They are FULLY AWARE! They want you "out" of this IPO and they will find ways to get you "out". Busy taking the QE3 money and putting it in, right? Me thinks I smell a rat...
  • Roy P  •  3 months ago
    That saddest thing about this IPO is that it is not an OPEN IPO. That means the public will have to pay heavy markup.
  • pretty good  •  3 months ago
    I didn't know Facebook made money from ads because I never saw them! Thank you AdBlock. Supposedly half of the 845 million FB users access the site daily. Probably 99% of them will continue to use it matter what FB does to increase revenue with more ads and other things. It's hard to say how far FB can grow with just ads. If you think about, they make money catering to the have-no-real-life masses which fortunately for them (and unfortunate for the future of the US) will continue to grow.
  • VC  •  3 months ago
    Listen to these money managers and you will be a sucker,buy these overhyped stocks to make money into their pockets.
  • tizzy  •  Auburn, Washington  •  3 months ago
    If there was EVER a stock that should be shorted, it's this POS! For those who remember what happened to vonage when they went public, Face Book will make that turd look like prime rib.
  • Channel  •  Columbia, South Carolina  •  3 months ago
    ..."the mother lode that puts their kids through college?"
    What?
    Those lucky enough are quite wealthy.
    Not one single share of the IPO will go to any middle-class or lower investor unless he's a friend or relative of someone who is alreay extremely wealthy.

    Probably 90%+ will go to large institutions, not individuals.
    The few individual that do are the richest clients of the brokers allocated shares.
    Trust me, was in the business. If that whale of a client doesn't get his shares, he moves his accounts and the broker loses a quarter of his income.

    Through college? Hah!
    The people that get shares could buy the college.
 
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