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    Will You Pay Taxes During Retirement?

    Fantasy Finance

    One of the key issues facing many retirees today is income taxes. Those who have to pay substantial taxes after they stop working are left with a smaller amount of money to live on than they may have expected, while those who pay little or no taxes can often get by on fairly modest means. The advent of the Roth IRA in 1997 started a mass migration of retirement dollars into tax-free savings accounts that have grown into a major source of retirement funds for many Americans. Traditional tax-deferred individual retirement accounts (IRAs) and qualified plans have been around since the '70s, but their tax advantages have some limitations. All money that is withdrawn from these accounts must be taxed as ordinary income, even if any securities that were liquidated inside them were held for more than a year. But the issue of taxation during retirement goes beyond retirement plan distributions and encompasses many factors. This article will attempt to help readers determine what their tax situations might be when they retire.

    Your Taxes May Not Be As Bad As You Think
    Many middle-class Americans may be surprised to learn that they could owe little to no income tax after they stop working. If their joint income is less than $50,000, then their standard deduction and personal exemptions will substantially reduce their taxable incomes, and what is left may fall into the lowest bracket. Following is an example of how this could work:

    Frank and Mary Jennings are both retired and in their upper 60s. Frank receives $2,200 per month in Social Security income and Mary receives $785 per month. Frank also receives $1,100 per month from his company pension and Mary earns $7,000 a year from a part-time job she works from home. Frank has a traditional IRA worth $150,000 that he rolled over from his company retirement plan. Mary has a contributory Roth IRA worth $40,000, and they have a joint savings account with $10,000 in cash.

    Frank and Mary will most likely pay little to nothing in actual taxes when they file. Their pension and earned income is not enough to make their Social Security benefits subject to taxation, and their itemized deductions and personal exemptions will most likely exceed the amount of their reportable income. Of course, at some point, Frank will have to begin taking Required Minimum Distributions from his IRA, which will also count as taxable income, but this may still not be enough to make any of their income taxable. Even if their deductions and exemptions (including any withholdings from Mary's earnings) don't completely eliminate their taxable income, the actual amount of tax owed will likely be miniscule.

    Beware of Roth Conversions
    Although converting a traditional IRA or qualified plan to a Roth IRA is often a good idea, Frank and Mary would be wise to refrain from doing so in their current situation. If Frank were to convert his entire IRA in a single year, then he would have to pay tax on the entire balance at once-at a rate higher than his current tax rate, because the conversion would land the couple in the 28% tax bracket. Then, not only would the couple face a 28% tax rate on their conversion balance, pension and earned income, but 85% of their Social Security income would become taxable as well. Depending upon various factors, Frank and Mary could conceivably be looking at a taxable income of somewhere around $200,000 before deductions and exemptions. A 28% tax on the net amount could easily be in the neighborhood of $50,000, which would never have to be paid at all if the conversion was handled differently. If Frank wants to convert his IRA to a Roth, he needs to carefully estimate what his income will be for the year and whether he can convert any of it without generating actual taxable income. Of course, if it becomes necessary to take a large distribution from one of their IRAs for any reason, then Mary's Roth account would probably be the best choice for this. If the amount needed exceeds her Roth balance, this account should be depleted before accessing Frank's IRA in order to generate the lowest amount of taxable income possible.

    Keeping Income Low
    Mary may want to consider giving up her job when Frank starts taking distributions from his account, in order to keep their taxable income at approximately the same level. Or, if their taxes permit her to continue earning some income when Frank takes his distributions, then they may want to contribute Frank's distributions into Mary's Roth IRA. Also, if the couple pays their house off and becomes unable to itemize deductions, then their tax liability may increase because they can no longer itemize deductions.

    The Bottom Line
    The example in this article illustrates how various factors can come together in determining the amount of tax that you must pay when you retire. Tax problems usually arise when a large sum of money must be withdrawn at once; this is where Roth IRAs have a real advantage over other types of retirement accounts. For more information on how taxes can impact your retirement, consult with your financial advisor.



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    21 comments

    • Alexander B  •  2 months ago
      I paid taxes on the money I put in a retirement plan. I paid taxes on my social security contributions, and now at the age of 83 I'm paying taxes on the same money I've paid taxes on before. That is double taxation pure and simple. I live alone so I don't have a "jane" to help me reduce my tax. The IRS will tax you after you are already dead. If you had an income, and then died say in Nov. the IRS will come after your relatives to take the money out of your checking account (if you have one), or sell your things to pay them what you owe them. The IRS doesn't take any risks, nor work 12 hour shifts etc., but they will want their share of the money you worked for just to survive. If you need meds, and the IRS is camped on your doorstep who do you think will get the money you have...the IRS or the pharmacy. Believe me it'll be the IRS for they will get theirs even if you die because they took your money and you couldn't buy your medication. Believe me it has happened.
    • No Conscience  •  3 months ago
      This article is complete and utter #$%$!! I'm retired , drawn a federal annunity and pay nearly 5K in taxes after deductions not including over 1K in state income taxes. This guy is blowing smoke up someone's #$%$! Don't beleive a word of it.
      • Roger 3 months ago
        Your Right, Prisoner of Conscience, I pay ($6400.00) in Federal & State Taxes for 2010, I paid $1400. 00 in State taxes. I have Two Retriements, (1) Military, (2) SSI, I was taxed for ($49,000.00) Bracket, Income for thr year ($9300.00) also, I was on Unemployment, (303.00) a week, Starting in July 28,2010 to the end of the year
      • frosty 3 months ago
        Roger, You are not the normal retiree with 2 retirements.
    • Robert  •  3 months ago
      Unless you live in a cardboard box you will be paying a lot of taxes.
    • Beads Underfoot  •  3 months ago
      After being retired 9 years and drawing a pension, Gov Snyder and MI GOP just increased my taxes 4.35% forever...that may not seem to be a lot, but it is devastating when your fixed income just got lowered by 4.35% AFTER ONE RETIRES. Thanks GOP, I can never again vote for thee
      • Tom 3 months ago
        Thanks to the demorans--with increased spending for "social" programs --4.35% is just a drop in the bucket-- get informed before you vote and maybe you will change your mind. If things keep going like they are now, we retirees will need to double our income just to pay for our medical care-- that is IF we can find a Doc to care for us--tax increases will be upward to 50% if the congress goes Dem -- vote buying is alive and well so beware of the handouts! Just stop and think and you might take a refresher course in Economics.
      • frosty 3 months ago
        GOP is out to eliminate SS. It's a benefit.
      • Lynn 3 months ago
        frosty but it should be for people that pay into it not for every Tom,Dick and Harry that hasn't pay a dime into it
    • BIG TEX  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 months ago
      When my wife and I retire we will move somewhere like Panama and the IRS can kiss my old hairy but
    • RJ  •  Austin, Texas  •  3 months ago
      If you buy anything, you are taxed, directly or indirectly. If you Don't buy anything, you are taxed, directly or indirectly.
    • taxed  •  3 months ago
      Of course the welfare crowd doesn't have to worry about any of this when they "retire". They will continue to live in their subsidized housing with free heat and utilities. They will still be collecting their collecting their SSDI, SSI, food stamps, Medicaid, etc.
      Taxes? Just a joke for them. The only time they think about taxes is when they are complaining about other people not paying enough.
      • frosty 3 months ago
        you are obviously out of your mind. what's wrong, can't afford your meds?
    • Lynn  •  3 months ago
      and they are talking now of taxing S.S. or pensions. So don't figure you won't pay taxes and also when you retire and take your money from your savings plan it will be higher taxed than if it was taxed when you invested it.
    • Kramer1953  •  3 months ago
      Taxation of retirement is stupid. Government doesn't want anyone to get ahead!
    • Gabe P  •  3 months ago
      I think that the Roth IRA is a joke. The way the system is going, the government will find some way to tax the savings when withdrawn anyway!
    • johhnny come lately  •  3 months ago
      you will pay taxes till you die idots. every american citizen knows this basic fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is unless your a illegal mexican or alien or something.
      • taxed 3 months ago
        What about the 47% who pay no taxes, primarily because of EITC and the Child Tax Credit?
    • Karen V  •  3 months ago
      Yes, I will.
    • ray  •  Paola, Kansas  •  3 months ago
      Who the tuck is going to have a retirement? The #$%$ Dems robbed Social Security. My stocks went to hell overnight and never recovered. Sold what was left to keep afloat. Savings went out with the Medical bills because hospitals became big business who routinely overcharge the underinsured. Taxes ain't the issue Mark. I hope you find out personally.
    • FreeURChains  •  Akron, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      Social Security (and consuming wastefully) is the SHACKLE to your enslavement of Working! It was placed around your neck at birth and set to explode if you try to challenge or question it!!
    • james  •  Duluth, Georgia  •  3 months ago
      If up to Obama you will be paying taxes not to the day you die, but a tax put on you for just placeing you in the ground.
    • anon  •  3 months ago
      When you are dead then you will not be taxed.
    • Dick  •  St Louis, Missouri  •  3 months ago
      my eith-grader knows more than this.
    • WilsonF  •  Bangkok, Thailand  •  3 months ago
      This is a poorly written and untrue. If you are single you pay taxes on S.S. that is why I live overseas. Health cost are lower and living cost are about the same as the States.
    • FreeURChains  •  Akron, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      If you invest only $85,000 into a diversified dividend growth portfolio of 15-20 hand picked stocks returning 7%, you could retire NOW [at any age] if your expenses are less then this income. Why continue to be a working American Sheep?
    • Neandertaler  •  3 months ago
      Taxes are the only thing that violate the old rule about "what goes up must come down".

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