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Preventive care: It's free, except when it's not

Health overhaul says free preventive care, but it pays to ask doc first: $1,100 surprises lurk

CHICAGO (AP) -- Bill Dunphy thought his colonoscopy would be free.

His insurance company told him it would be covered 100 percent, with no copayment from him and no charge against his deductible. The nation's 1-year-old health law requires most insurance plans to cover all costs for preventive care including colon cancer screening. So Dunphy had the procedure in April.

Then the bill arrived: $1,100.

Dunphy, a 61-year-old Phoenix small business owner, angrily paid it out of his own pocket because of what some prevention advocates call a loophole. His doctor removed two noncancerous polyps during the colonoscopy. So while Dunphy was sedated, his preventive screening turned into a diagnostic procedure. That allowed his insurance company to bill him.

Like many Americans, Dunphy has a high-deductible insurance plan. He hadn't spent his deductible yet. So, on top of his $400 monthly premium, he had to pay the bill.

"That's bait and switch," Dunphy said. "If it isn't fraud, it's immoral."

President Barack Obama's health overhaul encourages prevention by requiring most insurance plans to pay for preventive care. On the plus side, more than 22 million Medicare patients and many more Americans with private insurance have received one or more free covered preventive services this year. From cancer screenings to flu shots, many services no longer cost patients money.

But there are confusing exceptions. As Dunphy found out, colonoscopies can go from free to pricey while the patient is under anesthesia.

Breast cancer screenings can cause confusion too. In Florida, Tampa Bay-area small business owner Dawn Thomas, 50, went for a screening mammogram. But she was told by hospital staff that her mammogram would be a diagnostic test — not preventive screening — because a previous mammogram had found something suspicious. (It turned out to be nothing.)

Knowing that would cost her $700, and knowing her doctor had ordered a screening mammogram, Thomas stood her ground.

"Either I get a screening today or I'm putting my clothes back on and I'm leaving," she remembers telling the hospital staff. It worked. Her mammogram was counted as preventive and she got it for free.

"A lot of women ... are getting labeled with that diagnostic code and having to pay year after year for that," Thomas said. "It's a loophole so insurance companies don't have to pay for it."

For parents with several children, costs can pile up with unexpected copays for kids needing shots. Even when copays are inexpensive, they can blemish a patient-doctor relationship. Robin Brassner of Jersey City, N.J., expected her doctor visit to be free. All she wanted was a flu shot. But the doctor charged her a $20 copay.

"He said no one really comes in for just a flu shot. They inevitably mention another ailment, so he charges," Brassner said. As a new patient, she didn't want to start the relationship by complaining, but she left feeling irritated. "Next time, I'll be a little more assertive about it," she said.

How confused are doctors?

"Extremely," said Cheryl Gregg Fahrenholz, an Ohio consultant who works with physicians. It's common for doctors to deal with 200 different insurance plans. And some older plans are exempt.

Should insurance now pay for aspirin? Aspirin to prevent heart disease and stroke is one of the covered services for older patients. But it's unclear whether insurers are supposed to pay only for doctors to tell older patients about aspirin — or whether they're supposed to pay for the aspirin itself, said Dr. Jason Spangler, chief medical officer for the nonpartisan Partnership for Prevention.

Stop-smoking interventions are also supposed to be free. "But what does that mean?" Spangler asked. "Does it mean counseling? Nicotine replacement therapy? What about drugs (that can help smokers quit) like Wellbutrin or Chantix? That hasn't been clearly laid out."

But the greatest source of confusion is colonoscopies, a test for the nation's second leading cancer killer. Doctors use a thin, flexible tube to scan the colon and they can remove precancerous growths called polyps at the same time. The test gets credit for lowering colorectal cancer rates. It's one of several colon cancer screening methods highly recommended for adults ages 50 to 75.

But when a doctor screens and treats at the same time, the patient could get a surprise bill.

"It erodes a trust relationship the patients may have had with their doctors," said Dr. Joel Brill of the American Gastroenterological Association. "We get blamed. And it's not our fault,"

Cindy Holtzman, an insurance agent in Marietta, Ga., is telling clients to check with their insurance plans before a colonoscopy so they know what to expect.

"You could wake up with a $2,000 bill because they find that little bitty polyp," Holtzman said.

Doctors and prevention advocates are asking Congress to revise the law to waive patient costs — including Medicare copays, which can run up to $230 — for a screening colonoscopy where polyps are removed. The American Gastroenterological Association and the American Cancer Society are pushing Congress fix the problem because of the confusion it's causing for patients and doctors.

At least one state is taking action. After complaints piled up in Oregon, insurance regulators now are working with doctors and insurers to make sure patients aren't getting surprise charges when polyps are removed.

Florida's consumer services office also reports complaints about colonoscopies and other preventive care. California insurance broker Bonnie Milani said she's lost count of the complaints she's had about bills clients have received for preventive services.

"'Confusion' is not the word I'd apply to the medical offices producing the bills," Milani said. "The word that comes to mind for me ain't nearly so nice."

When it's working as intended, the new health law encourages more patients to get preventive care. Dr. Yul Ejnes, a Rhode Island physician, said he's personally told patients with high deductible plans about the benefit. They weren't planning to schedule a colonoscopy until they heard it would be free, Ejnes said.

If too many patients get surprise bills, however, that advantage could be lost, said Stephen Finan of the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network. He said it will take federal or state legislation to fix the colonoscopy loophole.

Dunphy, the Phoenix businessman, recalled how he felt when he got his colonoscopy bill, like something "underhanded" was going on.

"It's the intent of the law is to cover this stuff," Dunphy said. "It really made me angry."

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AP Medical Writer Carla K. Johnson can be reached at http://www.twitter.com/CarlaKJohnson

 
  • KODIAK57  •  Ithaca, New York  •  5 months ago
    When I worked as a medical billing specialist for BCBS and Aetna if every i wasn't doted and every t crossed or there was anything questionable we would reject the claim. Many people ended up paying for procedures they didn't have to if they had argued the claim!
    • lalalalal 5 months ago
      That's a good point. It's almost ALWAYS worth your time to argue a claim you disagree with.
    • Dr. Foo 5 months ago
      Yes, it happens all the time. But what do you expect. If they paid something that might not be covered, they'd never get their money back. I've had plenty of claims denied because of some minor doubt by the insurance company. Usually a phone call or two can clear it up in a few minutes. Or maybe get the Dr. to just resubmit a bill.
    • Jess 5 months ago
      When I worked outdoors, I got heat stroke on a 100+ degree day. The insurance company tried to deny my claim, calling it a "pre-existing condition."
  • LindaD  •  Homestead, Florida  •  5 months ago
    I went through this and went after the providers that labeled the procedure as a diagnostic test not as preventative. BCBSFL would do absolutely nothing about it either - so I got my doctors office on the phone with all the ancillary providers - at one point she'd been on the line line with me for over an hour! to get the right code input and resubmitted - took me about 4 months to straighten out! But persistence pays, it really does
    • TedEx 5 months ago
      It is a battle of wits over the code game. Yiu are right: donl' just roll over and acccep the rejection.
    • Jeff VC 5 months ago
      This is exactly why doctors will give you huge discount to leave the insurance companies out of the picture. The hospital pays the coder, the insurance company pays someone to deny, the hospital pays customer care to help the patient resubmit the bill, the hospital then pays the billing department, who sends the bill to the insurance company, who denies payment and sends a bill to the patient. The patient takes the bill back to the hospital........... There goes any profit.
    • Daniel 5 months ago
      We should have the ability to bill our time back to the insurance company for doing this.
  • Musical Mom  •  5 months ago
    The insurance companies have been getting away with this forever because most people don't assert their rights and demand teh claim be reviewed. People: assert yourselves! Demand that your insurance cover EVERYTHING IT'S SUPPOSED TO!
    • Pete 5 months ago
      What was not covered that was supposed to be covered? The patient had chosen to purchase a high deductible plan. The insurance company processed the claim according to the contract.

      If the doctor provided care that the patient didn't want, the patient should take it up with the doctor. But don't blame the insurance company for following the contract, which they are required to do by law.
    • Shirley M 5 months ago
      We took ours to the Pa state medical complaint dept but they sided with the insurance co as usual since they get the paper work from the insurance co. and you don't get to present anything. They go by what the insurance co sends in.
    • Moddemmom 5 months ago
      You can demand all you want, but it takes a lot of time and dedication and is very stressful to get the insurance company to pay what it should.
  • IC  •  5 months ago
    My co-pay just to set foot in the MD's office is $70. That's on top of the $300/mo premium and the $2000 yearly deductible. Healthcare is no different than banks, airlines, auto insurance, phone co's, cable etc... they're all out to scam you with tricks, tiny print and loopholes.
    • Rob L. 5 months ago
      "They're all out to scam you" he said of insurance companies and airlines who have profit margins in the single digits but no doubt this same clown is sporting the latest I-Pad to which he waited in line to pay a 45% markup. Another friggin #$%$ with more internet bandwidth than brains.
    • JC 5 months ago
      Rob L, you're an idiot. You must work for them. I bet would bet money you are a shady scammer charachter thats why you disagree with this post!
    • Anne G 5 months ago
      And if you think Obamacare is any different, then you better read the healthcare bill. I did. And although the numbers are a little different, there is still $1000 deductible on each person in the family and also a co-pay.
  • Max  •  Gaithersburg, Maryland  •  5 months ago
    $2 thousand to remove 2 little polyps? that takes 3 minutes. THAT'S the crime.
    • charlie 5 months ago
      That will turn into cancer if not removed.
    • Max 5 months ago
      yeah. so is that a reason to charge $2000? the price of services are not tied to whether they will save your life or not.
    • CS 5 months ago
      Do you know how much malpractice insurance costs doctors. It is thru the roof. This is one of the reasons costs are so high.
  • Buford  •  Moncks Corner, South Carolina  •  5 months ago
    You know, we all should pay for our health care because nothing should be free. However, what we pay for health care is obscenely expensive. Maybe there are just too many layers of profit here between insurance companies, malpractice lawyers, hospitals, doctors and the drug companies?
  • John  •  5 months ago
    The insurance guys are using their time to find all the loopholes. That's why the delay until 2014 for full implementation. Any curtailment of insurance company fraud will not be achieved. My insurance company denies all claims and then apologizes when I call to complain. How many people don't complain and just pay?
  • Sam  •  St Charles, Illinois  •  5 months ago
    I think Insurance co. should pay for this Colonoscopy.If there is a Polyp removed--then charge separately for Polyp removal--but still pay some minimum amount.
    Imagine--if this confusion discourages Preventive Colon Cancer screening-then if the patient has Colon Cancer--Insurance would have to pay big amounts for hospitalization etc.and if patient dies--then that is too bad for the patient and their families.
    SO INSURANCE co. must live up --Colonoscopy is preventive.Pay the Full amount.
  • Phyllis  •  Carol Stream, Illinois  •  5 months ago
    I called my insurance prior to the procedure and they never told me if anything was found it was not covered. I now owe over $1500.00. Had I known I would not have had the procedure done. Now I have collections calling to collect money that I don't have.
  • JenniferJ  •  5 months ago
    This is a lesson for all with private insurance. Many plans now require the first claim be rejected for little or no cause just to see if you have the fight in you to follow through and get the claim paid. This is unethical, but happens all the time. Many simply give up and pay for claims that should be covered. We live in NY where state mandates payment of dabetic equipmet, including an insulin pump. BCBS rejected our claim as needing preapproval because it was over $700. When I informed them I knew NYS law required it be covered and I was calling the ATT. General their toe changed and they allowed for a "post" pre-approval! They are crimminals and morally bankrupt in the insurance industry.
  • Debbie  •  5 months ago
    If you're getting screened for cancer and they find a polyp and remove it to be tested to see if it's cancer, isn't that screening for cancer? Rather, they just "look" and see a polyp and leave it alone because if they remove it it's no longer a screening but a diagnostic procedure and then 5 years down the road when the patient is due for the next screening, the doctor says "looks like something cancerous" only to find out that had they removed it five years ago it would not have become cancer or they might have found to be pre-cancerous and would have been able to treat it sooner and for less money and at less risk to the patient.

    Doesn't anyone anywhere ever use any common sense about anything anymore? Let's just throw the baby out with the bathwater, and let's toss out the tub while we're at it!

    Good grief!
  • My Two Cents  •  5 months ago
    My employer pays over $940.00 per month for my healthcare insurance (one person). If something isn't done about the cost of healthcare immediately, our country will never recover.
  • Cherrie  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  5 months ago
    American's healthcare- the best money can buy. No money- no care!
  • Thomas  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  5 months ago
    I Googled Wikipedia to see how many countries provide their citizens with basic, on demand health care, I was amazed! Why is it that citizens of America take it for granted that their children will be educated, that there will be law and order, that there will be roads to drive on. Yet, if the company I work for lets me go, and I cannot afford health insurance costs, and I or one of my family were to suffer a serious accident of become really ill, I could receive bills which would surely bankrupt me? And I am a citizen of the richest and most powerful nation on this earth???????
  • Brad  •  Aberdeen, South Dakota  •  5 months ago
    Mr. Dunphy is mad at the law for being underhanded? Without the law he would have had to pay for the colonoscopy regardless of a polyp removal. He should direct his anger at the insurance company which found a loophole in the law and exploited it.
  • Vern  •  Los Angeles, California  •  5 months ago
    These must be troubling loopholes for our Senate, Congress, and White House staff. No wonder they get so many paid vacation days.
  • Tom  •  Cambridge, Massachusetts  •  5 months ago
    Why does it cost so much to remove a polyp? That's about $500 a snip? There's the real problem, the cost at point of service.
  • Steven  •  5 months ago
    One thing that needs to be changed in the medical establishment is that doctors should be required to place their fees and charges in view for the patients to see. Where else do you go where you get something without knowing the cost, then later get the bill for it? By forcing doctors to publicly display their fees, the patient can then shop around for the best price...and that might make the doctors more price competitive.

    The ideal result would be if doctors had signs outside of their offices that displayed their fees....like stores do, so that people passing by could see them. By doing that, it would be easier for the patient to compare fees without going into the office.

    A second thing that needs to be changed is how they arrive at the fees they charge the patient. When you see the doctor, you should be charged for his time, just like you do anywhere else. In other words, you should pay for a 15 minute office visit, regardless of what is discussed. As it is now, your bill is based on how many things you talk about. Who came up with that concept?

    When I see my doctor, I have a list of things I want to discuss with him, and it might take 15 minutes. Depending on how many things we discussed in that 15 minutes, my bill might be $85. If we only discussed one thing in that 15 minutes, my bill might be $50. In both cases, I only took up 15 minutes of his time, so why should I pay more for one visit than for the other?...because we talked about several different things? This is one reason why they need to post their fees....you never know how much your bill will be before you get there. I guess you just need to bring a lot of money in case you need it.
  • Dawn  •  Cary, North Carolina  •  5 months ago
    I also had a problem with my Ob/Gyn. I went for my annual "poke-n-prod". He did his thing and he asked if my Kugle exercises were working (which was my complaint last year). I said, yes, and he simply explained another way of doing them on a daily basis. To my surprise, I was charged for that little "extra" conversation during my annual. I guess the rule of thumb is to not say or ask ANYTHING during the annual physical....just spread them...LOL!!
  • Casualcat  •  5 months ago
    The best health care money can buy .... not so much if you are not rich
 
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