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    San Francisco expands plastic-bag ban

    San Francisco expands plastic-bag ban; mayor expresses support for proposal

    Fantasy Finance

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Shoppers in San Francisco will have to pay 10 cents per bag and more retailers are now banned from handing out plastic bags under a proposal approved Tuesday by the city's Board of Supervisors.

    San Francisco already bans large grocery stores and chain pharmacies from using plastic bags, which are blamed for clogging landfills and waterways. The proposal extends that ban to restaurants and to gift shops, hardware stores, boutiques and other retailers.

    The 10-cent charge would apply to any type of bag, such as paper, that stores give customers at the checkout counter. The stores would keep the money.

    The goal is to discourage the use of single-use bags and encourage people to bring their own bags to retailers.

    San Francisco became the first city in the country to ban plastic bags at grocery stores and drug stores with an ordinance passed in 2007. Since then, other California cities, Ireland, Taiwan and the District of Columbia have enacted more stringent polices.

    The supervisors approved the proposal despite concerns from some small businesses that it could drive customers away.

    "The intent was never to nickel or dime anybody," Mayor Ed Lee told the San Francisco Chronicle (http://bit.ly/wFQznB) on Monday, expressing his support for the measure. "But if it takes 10 cents to remind somebody that their habits are in their control, I think that's something we're willing to consider doing."

    But Tony Liu, who owns four Chinatown shops frequented by tourists, said the charge may be particularly off-putting given the state of the economy.

    "Things are different now," he said.

    City officials have been meeting with business owners to explain the proposal. Stores that violate the law would face fines of $100 for the first infraction, $200 for the second and $500 each time after that.

    But Lee said at least initially, city officials would focus on educating store owners, not fining them.

    The proposal, which would go into effect in October, is backed by the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce, the California Grocers Association and the city's Small Business Commission. It would exempt the use of plastic bags for items such as loose nails, dry cleaning and bulk candy.

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    Information from: San Francisco Chronicle, http://www.sfgate.com

     

    16 comments

    • Summit  •  Syracuse, New York  •  3 months ago
      Plastic bags the save the trees years ago; can we go back to renewable paper bags?
      • S E 3 months ago
        I remember that, it was all about the trees. I wonder what will come next.
      • John L 3 months ago
        Even paper bags are banned
    • John L  •  New York, New York  •  3 months ago
      This is stupid! First of all, all those plastic bags are bio-degradable. Those bag are so thin that they bio-degrade (rip apart) while your stuff are still inside. Plastic bags doesn't clog up landfill, styrofoam products do. 2nd, I reuse those flimsy bags in my garbage can so they are not wasted. I am sure lots of people do that too. If they stop giving out plastic bags in store, I will need to buy garbage bags, which will cost me $$$ and garbage bags are thicker, which according to their logic, will clog up more landfill.....

      This is nothing more than a scam to let stores to charge you more.... Oh yea, I think you will need to pay sales tax on those bags.....
      • Pepper 3 months ago
        I use those bags for small can liners, too. They're the perfect size. They're also great for picking up doggy droppings and car sick children, right off the top of my head...
    • Fred  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 months ago
      They should put them over there heads.
    • Bagsy_b  •  Milton Keynes, United Kingdom  •  3 months ago
      and I bet they still stock and sell Plastic bags as BIN LINERS
    • Vance  •  3 months ago
      So does this mean that these stores will lower their prices to compensate for no longer having to pay to provide customers with bags? Yeah, I didn't think so, this is about greed and nothing else.
    • Rak  •  Kahului, Hawaii  •  3 months ago
      No mo Plastic? Thats OK they will just go bak to Paper like they did in Hawaii! Who needs trees? We humans will need up to 8 arms&legs,so scientist get to work on genetics to start producing Octohumans!
    • John  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 months ago
      dumb law; and it's all about collecting more tax money. i recycle every one of my plastic and paper bags so in my case it's all about taking my money. that's ok; i now drive 5 miles to orange county to do all my shopping
    • I cant handle the truth  •  Carrollton, Texas  •  3 months ago
      Their way of training the customer to what they want. Pour in some ecology/ecology and people cant bock
    • Kirk  •  3 months ago
      We as consumers should not have to pay (extortion fee) for what is a cost of doing business. I will not pay nor will I bring my own reusable bag unless the business is going to subsidize those. And the rest of the country wonders why California is in such financial disarray.
      • RANDY 3 months ago
        yeah calif is a broke dick state always in financial crisis and looking for ways to find more cash even if they have to steal it from their citizens. and still all this financial strain even while the state runs (not personally but oks the grow) a "multi billion dollar per year pot industry that pays huge amts of taxes to the state.
    • John Henry Eden  •  3 months ago
      These lawmakers should put a plastic bag over their heads.
    • RANDY  •  Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  •  3 months ago
      i dont live in s.f. or calif. but after reading this article my first reaction was to get #$%$ off if i lived there. I mean, how dare they (the govt) not only shove a bag ban law that wasnt voted on by people, but make me pay 10 cents for every piece of crap/tree killing paper bag. i always carry in the groceries after the wife buys them. so my first vision was that trunk and how full it always and how many trips it would take if the items were in paper sacks versus the plastic bags that u can carry 5-6 of em in each hand regardless of weight. but after finishing the article and understanding more fully y they want to expand this "bag ban" i saw clearer and understood. and anything that helps the earth, ozone, global warming, I AM IN!! but come on piece of crap paper bags, how is killing more trees now to make these bags good for the earth. u know with the 10cent per bag surcharge they want collected made me mad at first but then thot that govt does not really want to introduce more paper bag use, they are trying to train the citizens to stop using any type of disposable bag and bring as many as u need of all these types of reusable bags
      • John 3 months ago
        Our Constitution specifically said that laws shall be made by the legislature not the people. If people were to vote on laws, then laws would be the result of mere popular sentiment, like what you get on American Idol.
    • Sidney  •  Sacramento, California  •  3 months ago
      I love San Francisco. But, no plastic bags or happy meals. That's un-American.
      • BrianM 3 months ago
        Its common sense.. So I guess that is un-American.. Since Americans are about as dumb as rocks.
      • Sidney 3 months ago
        Common sense? What happened to making decisions on your own, without the government deciding what's best for you?
    • Mr Frost  •  Dayton, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      hey San Francisco! How do you like your FASCISM?
    • Cessna 140  •  3 months ago
      Government telling you what is best for you. Freedom is good and the government will tell you exactly what is in your best interest.....regardless of what you think.
    • FIGUREITOUT  •  3 months ago
      There is nothing wrong with carrying a cloth bag with you. There needs to be a fee on disposable diapers over cloth diapers as well. Maybe it would get people back into start up businesses for diaper services as well.
    • Sabo2R  •  Walnut Creek, California  •  3 months ago
      the nanny state strikes again

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