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    Six Ways to Maximize Retirement 'Sweet Spot' Years


    During your working years, it is usual to focus more on gaining an immediate deduction for retirement account contributions than on how future withdrawals will be taxed. Financial advisers say that as a result, affluent people often retire with a portfolio of huge tax-deferred IRAs and 401(k) accounts -- and belatedly realize they must tap the accounts for substantially more than living expenses to cover annual taxes on their withdrawals.

    But there is a "sweet spot" -- between the ages of 59½ and 70½ -- when withdrawals from tax-deferred accounts are penalty-free, but not yet required. Advisers say those 11 years are the ideal time to protect yourself by moving some money into taxable and tax-free accounts instead of continuing to plow it into tax-deferred accounts.

    "Most of the time, people are in the same tax bracket in retirement as when they were working, because of money coming out of IRAs and 401(k)s," says Ronald W. Roge, chairman and chief executive of R. W. Roge & Co., a Bohemia NY financial planning firm. "I tell clients, 'If you have a $1 million IRA, after federal, state and local taxes, you own about $600,000.'"

    Most advisers say tax rates are likely to rise in the future. "In a down market, those big taxable distributions can kill you," says Eleanor Blayney, a Mclean, Virginia adviser.

    With a tax-diversified portfolio, you can plan cost-effective withdrawals, says Barry C. Picker, a Brooklyn New York tax accountant and IRA expert. He lays out an example of how helpful it is to have more than one type of account to draw on:

    You retire at 65 with a $1 million IRA and a $500,000 taxable account. Assuming 3 percent annual growth, the accounts will throw off $45,000 of income a year - $30,000 from the IRA and $15,000 from the taxable account. But what if you withdraw the entire $45,000 from the taxable account? You've taken $30,000 of principal, so you're only taxed on $15,000 of income.

    Now you're in a lower bracket, so your Social Security may be only partially taxable. And it may now cost less to transfer money from your IRA into a Roth IRA. That makes your IRA smaller, which may reduce your future required annual distributions.

    How can you achieve that kind of flexibility?

    1. Don't assume you should wait until you are 70 years old to withdraw money from your tax-deferred accounts. "After you turn 59½, you need to make an active decision about this every year," says Joel Isaacson, president of Joel Isaacson & Co., a New York City financial planning firm. High-earners' taxable income often falls dramatically in the first years of retirement, he says - and it's often offset by deductions for state and local taxes paid the previous year, mortgage interest and investment management fees. In some cases, new retirees can claim deductions for the cost of starting a small business or consulting practice.

    The upshot: In early retirement, you may be able to move money out of your tax-deferred accounts at little or no cost. A retiree in the 'sweet spot' may pay a 3.6 percent combined federal and state tax on a $100,000 IRA withdrawal, says Isaacson.

    2. Consider small annual Roth conversions after you turn 59½ while you're still working, especially if your income fluctuates from year to year. "You want to maximize the use of your tax brackets in any given year," says Robert Schmansky, founder and principal of Clear Financial Advisors in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. Ask your adviser every year how much additional income you could take without being bumped into the next tax bracket.

    3. Seize the opportunity of a down market to convert a hammered IRA into a Roth IRA. The tax bill will be smaller because you're converting a smaller amount.

    4. Find out whether you're eligible for a state tax break on IRA withdrawals. Hawaii doesn't tax withdrawals from contributory retirement plans after age 59½, for example. Michigan and New York allow annual tax-free withdrawals of $34,920 and $20,000, respectively. "If you're a New York City resident, that could save you as much as 15 percent," says Isaacson. "Maybe that makes it worth taking out $20,000 a year if you can get it at a relatively low federal rate."

    5. Contribute to a Roth 401(k) plan if you have access to one. Later, you'll transfer it to a Roth IRA. Meantime, your Roth 401(k) contributions still effectively boost your traditional 401(k) account; by law, any employer matching contribution must go into the tax-deferred account.

    6. If you've maxed out 401(k) contributions, save in a taxable account. "People who want to save outside their employer's plan often want more tax deferral, so they buy variable annuities," says Blayney. "But this is an ideal time to set up a taxable account. If we see tax rates moving up, people will get socked in tax-deferred accounts."

     

    56 comments

    • James  •  26 days ago
      I can't believe that most people stay in the same tax bracket in retirement as when working. Maybe the article's hypothetical millionaire, but not the majority of working people. We dropped from the 25% bracket to 15%, and still live OK.
    • Constitutionalist  •  Pennsauken, New Jersey  •  26 days ago
      This is a strategy that I am using myself. I am quite surprised that it has taken so long for the financial pundits to point this out.

      I would add: It also matters how the taxable accounts are invested. Muni bonds+MLPs provide tax-advantaged income and growth while dialing down portfolio risk.

      Buying munis and mlps in advance of retirement, re-investing the tax exempt interest and tax deferred dividends will augment investment returns.

      In fact, one should plan well in advance of retirement. I did that more than 10 years ago and so far it has worked like a charm.

      Try it, you'll like it! It works!
    • Joe  •  New York, New York  •  26 days ago
      How does one pay 3.6% in combined Federal & State taxes?
      I totally agree that you need to start making withdrawals before RMD kicks in and puts you into a higher tax bracket. Everyone should use one of the RMD calculators and start with 1million dollars at age 65, use a reasonable growth rate say 3%. You'll be surprised how much money you will be forced to withdraw after age 70 1/2. Uncle Sam always get his share, time is on his side.
    • p  •  Green Bay, Wisconsin  •  26 days ago
      One point the article fails to make is that if you are working part time in retirement, you can put up to 6,000 per year in a Roth IRA, even if if you have to take it out of a taxable account, as long as you are earning at least the 6000.
    • Michael  •  26 days ago
      Another thing to note, there are different withdraw tables for your tax deferred accounts if your spouse is 10 years younger than you, which can work to your advantage.
      The point is very good in this article, be very careful how you access your retirement money as Congress wants the money and does not care if you are not smart and pay more taxes than you need to. Taking smaller amounts out over longer periods, especially in high tax states might be just what you need to do. If you don't need the money just reinvest it or save it...it can grow again.
    • ricardo  •  26 days ago
      very good at last, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Bogie  •  Houston, Texas  •  26 days ago
      Nobody is realistic about how long they may live. My Dad always talked about retirement and when he retired at 70 with loads of money, he discovered his real retirement years would be about cancer treatments and dead at 76. I have also had two friends pass away in their 50's and five in their 60's. NOBODY factors in the "dead" part in their planning. Naturally, most will have to work till they are dead but some are in a position to go modest
      and get out while they are younger. Different strokes for different folks.
    • Richard  •  Houston, Texas  •  26 days ago
      I have been wondering about the effect on RMDs on "means tested" tax rates. Wait too late and the withdrawal amount could be significant. this may increase your medicare premium, SS tax, etc. Furthermore BOTH political parties are suggesting more means testing to cut senior costs.
    • Fiscal Conservative  •  26 days ago
      "I tell clients, 'If you have a $1 million IRA, after federal, state and local taxes, you own about $600,000.'"

      Not sure I follow the math here. This implies a flat 40% total tax on the IRA withdrawals.

      According to experts you can safely withdraw 4-4.5% from your retirement account with reasonable confidence that you will not run out of money before you die (assuming you invest around 60% of your money in stocks and the rest in bonds). That's $40-45K per year from a $1 million IRA. The upper limit on the 15% federal tax bracket was $69,000 in 2011 if you file a joint return with your spouse. So if you withdraw 4-4.5% of your money adjusted for inflation each year your marginal federal income tax rate is mostly likely going to be 15% under the current tax law even if you throw in Social Security benefits. You will not pay Social Security and Medicare taxes on your IRA withdrawals. Where exactly does the rest of the 40% in taxes come from? State income taxes? Does the author think that congress is going to tax retirees to death down the road?? I don't get it.
    • anonymous  •  25 days ago
      The real "sweet spot" in retirement is having control of your faculties.
    • A Yahoo! user  •  Minneapolis, Minnesota  •  26 days ago
      "I tell clients, 'If you have a $1 million IRA, after federal, state and local taxes, you own about $600,000.'"

      So if you pull othis out over 20 years, that's 50k a year. Your tax rate on 50k is 40%? Don't think so.
    • pitchoun  •  Seattle, Washington  •  26 days ago
      A decent article worth thinking about, and only one irrational comment in response. Is this really Yahoo?
    • Wild Bill  •  Elmhurst, Illinois  •  26 days ago
      Article doesn't mention penalty 72t withdrawals. Good way to start withdrawing before 59 1/2.
    • Manly HA  •  25 days ago
      Annunities are taxed like regular IRAs and 401ks. The money you take out is ordinary income (like earned income) until you get down to your contribution. This article is wise advise to those putting away money for retirement. Do not put all your retirement in regular IRAs and 401ks as the taxes can be quite high when you retire. Remember 15% cap gain rates on taxable accounts gains vs up to 35% ordinary tax rates on IRA and 401k withdrawals. Also a little money put in a Roth IRA when you are young will serve you quite well when you need it.
    • Nanoskippy  •  Oxford, Massachusetts  •  24 days ago
      1. eat less - lose weight
      2. work more - lose weight
      3. move in with kids - live rent free
      4. go uninsured
      5. walk or ride a bike, don't drive - lose weight
      6. apply for government cheese
    • world tax education  •  Wallingford, Connecticut  •  20 days ago
      all anyone can do is the best they can do.. "due to circumstances beyond our control" a voice on the television said from time to time..We're all there almost always. Customers needed for the boss.. the boss has no customers etc. it's byby job.
    • james  •  Washington, District of Columbia  •  26 days ago
      One thing not mentioned is once you turn 65 and start Medicare there is additional cost per month if MAGI (for Medicare) goes about $85,000. So that needs to also be factored into the cost of taking dollars out of an IRA.
    • SJ  •  25 days ago
      The $1 Million cited is only an example. You can extrapolate it for your situation, $100K, $400K, or $1M. The article has ideas that can save YOU money if instead of jumping the gun and using this as a forum for cynicism you read for ideas YOU CAN USE.

      When retired, we have four income sources: Social Security, IRA/401k (taxable), already taxed savings, and pensions (if any). If you need $50K/year (or more) to retire on, Mr/Ms Brenner's article says how you get that $50K can cost you dearly later in life. I should add part time employment and a working spouse to the four sources, if you are fortunate enough to have the options.
    • BarryW  •  Richmond, Virginia  •  26 days ago
      It is hard to believe people get paid for giving this kind of advice. "I tell clients, 'If you have a $1 million IRA, after federal, state and local taxes, you own about $600,000.'"
    • Kate  •  San Bruno, California  •  26 days ago
      You can begin this strategy even earlier than when you turn 59 1/2 but taking SEPP.

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