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    Will Peer Pressure Make Americans Save More?

    Lose weight. Run a marathon. (Okay, a half-marathon.) And -- oh, yeah -- sock away a little more in the 401(k) plan. Improving one's financial habits may not top everybody's list of New Year's resolutions, but recent studies suggest that some tactics people use to follow through on their intentions -- especially relying on different types of peer pressure -- can also help them with their money habits. The only problem: They can also backfire.

    Whether practiced in group-support settings like Alcoholics Anonymous or in a more public forum (thanks, reality TV), peer pressure has long proved effective in getting people to modify their behavior. Now researchers are applying it more often to money issues, and not just in the U.S. In a 2010 study by American and Chilean researchers, a group of entrepreneurs began meeting regularly to set weekly savings targets, discuss their goals and confess their missteps. Over the course of a year, the group averaged a monthly savings of 11 percent of their income -- putting away twice as much money as a control group that didn't have the meetings. "It's the concept of keeping up with the Joneses turned on its head," says Frank Murtha, a psychologist and founder of the behavioral-finance consultancy MarketPsych.

    Peer pressure on a larger scale is trickier, of course, but experts say applying what could be called The Biggest Loser effect may help. That's when a combination of support and shame, and the desire to conform to social norms, persuades people to publicly set a goal and then achieve it. Applying similar principles, the British government recently altered some letters to delinquent taxpayers to include a message urging them to join the 94 percent of their fellow citizens who had paid their taxes. As a result, 70 percent more people either paid or renegotiated payment on their bill, yielding $400 million in recoupments.

    But in the world of money, peer pressure can have an equally powerful negative impact -- just ask anyone who's spent too much on a fancy meal with friends or invested in the dot-com bubble. Even when pressure is applied in the right direction, there is often a boomerang effect, as people do the exact opposite of what is encouraged. When unionized employees in one study were told that most of their colleagues were contributing to a company 401(k) plan, they actually saved less than workers who didn't get the same information. "These peer effects can backfire," says Brigitte Madrian, an economist and Harvard professor who worked on the study. The effectiveness of pressure may also depend on whether the goals are realistically within reach, Madrian adds; while people can always afford to stop smoking, they aren't always flush enough to put away a chunk for retirement. Says Ron Shevlin, a senior analyst at research firm Aite Group, "The jury is still out on whether or not this truly works."

    But some analysts and companies think using pressure effectively is just a matter of tinkering with the formula and that if you know what other people are doing, you'll adjust accordingly. ING's CompareMe tool, which has had more than a million visitors since it launched in 2009, allows people to plug in factors like age, income and hobbies and see how they stack up in terms of retirement savings, credit card debt and student loans. When ING provided similar comparison data to a survey group of 28,000 people in several companies' retirement plans, 16 percent of users increased their contribution rate. Bundle.com, a personal finance website backed by Citigroup, uses anonymized data from Citi's credit card transactions to show people similar benchmarks for expenditures. "If I find a good bunch of people who are spending a whole lot less than I am on groceries maybe I'm making a mistake," says the site's founder, Jaidev Shergill.

    Technology may make these kinds of tactics more prevalent in the future, experts say, as apps allow people to compare themselves with their peers on the go and nudge them to think twice about a big-ticket purchase. Says Murtha, "Maybe we can get Matt Damon to record a PSA."

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    • David  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  3 months ago
      "Will Peer Pressure Make Americans Save More?"

      No. You can't fix stupid.
    • Auld Phart  •  4 months ago
      Ya know, there are actually people who save because they know it's in their own best long term interest to do so and don't need peer pressure to do so. As a matter of fact, they fight the peer pressure to spend on conspicuous consumption.
      • Dayton Local 4 months ago
        I save about 30% of my income and no one I know comes even close. Peer Pressure is for people with low self esteem.
      • Thomas 4 months ago
        I have saved about 60% of my income monthly.
      • cd 4 months ago
        Up until recently, I saved nearly 90% of my income. By living a very basic life style, I took my income and paid off my house in 4 years. Now that it's paid off, I take what I would have given tha banks in interest and put that into retirement. Better to give it to yourself than to the banks.
    • Rascal  •  4 months ago
      Unfortunately, we have many people that feel "entitled" to spend freely and the "live for today" attitude. And they all have credit cards!
      • Meca-leca-hi-meca-hiney-h ... 4 months ago
        "Will beer pressure make Americans drink more?
      • Law-abiding Citizen 4 months ago
        I don't have a problem with that as long as they are the ones held responsible and not those of us who acted responsibly. In other words ... CUT entitlements, CUT unconstitutional spending, and CUT taxes.
      • Deepsix 4 months ago
        The reality is it is unnecessary to save in Obama's Entitlement Nation. Obama has declared that every element of life now is a right. He must confiscate from others to redistribute to his constituency. So many people live pay check to pay check but do not take responsibility to save for a rainy day. They are the first to vote Democrat because somehow they think the voting booth is their personal ATM machine. Obama's entitlement based Democracy is broke at the 15 Trillion in national debt is the highest in human history.
    • retired4good  •  4 months ago
      Had to laugh using the compareme tool from ING. We have more than the amount of retirement savings for my age group but have no debt and still spend about 70% less than our peers. I gave up trying to convince my fellow baby boomers to save a couple of decades ago. Now they have to keep working in retirement. Too bad.
      • Retired 4 months ago
        I retired almost five years ago. I agree with you.
      • Butch 4 months ago
        They won't keep working because they don't have to. Let me read the future for you. First, all government benefits will become means tested except for fed, state and local employees. Then the government will confiscate any and all retirement plans and if necessary, any and all public savings and replace them with government IOU's to be doled out at their discretion, because they will need the money to give to all the people who didn't save and have been laid off at 50, never to work again.
        You think the government sloths passed recent bills with martial laws and are soliciting private companies to provide FEMA camps for nothing? No, No, they know what's coming and what they'll have to do, short of mass murder.
      • xtra 4 months ago
        another non able to retire worry...mass murder by government...
    • WilhemenaCooker  •  Intercourse, Pennsylvania  •  4 months ago
      we live within our means and you should tell the President and Congress to do the same
      • ONE MORE COMMA 4 months ago
        You have got to remember that this nation was built (and continues to be built) on leverage - if we go back to a 'cash only' system we'll bring our economy to biggest depression this world has ever seen!

        Don't try to put your warped 'micro' views in a 'macro' context, they don't work.
      • ZiaoZi 4 months ago
        Add the state governments and the county governments and the town governments and the school governments. They are just as much a burden on me.
      • Rascal Dog 4 months ago
        Live within our means, unless there is a Borrow and Spend Republican in charge. Then we got to expand Medicare and fight a couple of wars and cut taxes....
        Right.
    • Lincoln Knight  •  4 months ago
      I'm 47 and have been a saver and investor since age 21. Thank God I did or I would be like rest of my family living basically paycheck to paycheck and getting older and not knowing what they will do. I don't even have to worry about money now. You may say markets are corrupt but I say they have been a great tool to increase my wealth substancially over the years. Learn the game.
      • j 4 months ago
        Game?
      • Jason 4 months ago
        Lincoln, i started a bit later in "the game" (started when i was 33, and I'm 39 now). Have had mixed results so far (large paper losses in US market,. but nice paper gains in Asian real estate). Given your long investing tenure have you reached the 7 figure mark yet? If so, any thoughts on what has/hasn't worked for you (e.g. buy and hold, small caps vs. large caps, day trading, real estate investments, et al.).
    • ONE MORE COMMA  •  Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  •  4 months ago
      For those who won't prepare for retirement, hey, don't worry... you haven't had a reason to up to now? I guess all you really have to be envious about is the fact you can't have what those who prepared for retirement will have.

      Work to the grave, the vast majority do... at least you are in the majority.
    • GBP  •  Peoria, Arizona  •  4 months ago
      At 51 I am too hardened to ever feel peer pressure...only the weak do that...the strong follow their own thoughts and ideals. Fortunately, I was raised poor and have been saving for 30 years.
    • .  •  Houston, Texas  •  4 months ago
      Saving is a taught skill when you are young. Try to put something away every month and tie it up in a low risk area where it is difficult to get out. Automatic save the raises you get or at least part of it. The 401 and 403B will save a lot on taxes alone. Start with US savings bonds when children are young and watch it grow. Do not invest in stocks unless you can afford to lose it. Make saving fun and creative. Track what you spend for several months and determine where you can cut corners. You need to be careful when you invest in life long commitments such as a house or an expensive car. Do not follow the herd. Put the costs on paper and determine if it is a good financial move for you. Make eating out a special event. Enjoy things that are free or inexpensive; a walk in the park, time with friends or family, a good book, volunteer your time, take a class, etc. I am old but we have a savings for retirement. These are hard times for saving since expenses are high and wages are low. Times will change and the opportunity will come again.
    • Dutch  •  Dearborn, Michigan  •  4 months ago
      Where it comes to saving the problem is one of language. Thanks to decades of advertizing, "Saving" in American Enlish now means "spending less (on more)", as in:
      "BUY the couch AND the love seat and SAVE even more!" We need a new verb first!
    • John  •  Carlsbad, California  •  4 months ago
      I have always had my own internal compass and set my own course. As a result, I have consistently been ahead of trends such as resource conservation, diet, exercise, and fiscal conservatism.
    • Orion1961  •  4 months ago
      Peer Pressure won't make more Americans save more, but Fear Pressure sure will....
    • Christopher  •  4 months ago
      I was talking with a girl from work about this just yesterday. She was considering an offer for a second job because she wants to be able to save up some money. Yes, working two jobs in order to save. She's 23 years old. Why? She's tired of the stress. Living paycheck to paycheck is nerve wracking. She doesn't want to be the one stressed out three days before payday anymore.
    • Constitutionalist  •  Pennsauken, New Jersey  •  4 months ago
      I left college in 1977, saved and invested for all that time. Paid cash for homes and cars, and am now waiting for my wife to retire in 1.5 years' time. So, in spite of all the bad news out there, there are a few who were responsible and who have earned their retirement. And no I am not a public sector worker. I have earned every cent honestly and I took risk. I did not finance my retirement on the back of some unsuspecting private sector employee via goon squad union bosses and paid for politicians who turned the tables on the hard-working non-unionized private sector while they were not looking and made promises for them on their behalf knowing that they could not be met. Now, the time has come for the promises to be paid. Question: Who will pay them? Answer: No one. There isn't enough money to do that without stoking civil unrest. Do they think that they can take or confiscate savers' money via taxes to pay for the promises? I think not.

      As someone else aptly stated: The key to wealth accumulation is: Live below one's means while prudently saving and investing what remains over a long enough period of time to let compound interest do the heavy lifting. After 20, 30 or even 40 years' time, a large nest egg will be created.

      I will move to a low tax state with few unions who subscribe to my type of political philosophy and leave the high priced, high tax, low quality of life northeast for its alter-ego. I can't wait and I can't do it soon enough!
    • Pants  •  4 months ago
      Between 401(k)s, Roth IRAs, a college savings fund and personal savings I save 40% of my income every month. There, now I've just put peer pressure on all of you to do the same.
    • BarryW  •  Richmond, Virginia  •  4 months ago
      In America most people try to keep up or ahead with the newest gadgets to play with, they don't worry about saving. Just look around at people every one has their head down and punching away or their newest toy...cars, movies restaurants anywhere you go. They pay a thousand dollars or more a year for this and yet complain about the economy and how they have nothing.
    • David  •  Chandler, Arizona  •  4 months ago
      Peer pressure is being directed to spend not save. We are encouraged to buy the latest from Apple, this new shiny car, or that bigger wide screen TV. Even the government wants us to continue fueling the global economies as the consumers of the world. Uncle Sam picks our pockets before we make it to the job market through student loans that will keep us down for many years.

      I doubt that the average American will be able to save. The real cost of living is going up, while real wages are flat or declining. Putting $100 in a 401K does not make sense when you are only paying the minimum on your credit card balances.

      The best savings plan beyond emergencies protection is to pay off all current debt. Your savings are the interest you would have been paying.
    • GetReal  •  Richardson, Texas  •  4 months ago
      I don't think peer pressure will do it. Fear worked for me big time since I was born in extreme poverty. Got my fortune now. But I think that young smart people are starting to put a "coolness" factor to saving since the media seems to be hyping it now. And you can't underestimate that "coolness" factor. It's what sells cigarettes, beer, tattoos and piercings, I-crap, and butt-ugly gas-guzzling SUVs...lol.
    • ZiaoZi  •  4 months ago
      The article made an interesting comment about smoking. Experience shows that a cigarette smoker can always find the money to buy a pack of cigarettes. The cost including taxes and fees runs around $7 per pack. A pack-a-day habit costs $49 per week or about $2500 per year. If you put the same $2500 into CDs at 1% (the current rate) and keep doing that for 30 years, you'll have $87000 in CDs and you'll be in far better health.
    • JOENILJ  •  Elmhurst, Illinois  •  4 months ago
      If we could live a simple life, no need of 2nd job. Thrift stores are my favorite.

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