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Updated from 4:45 pm EDT
From Silicon Alley Insider, April 23, 2008:
Apple posted a good March quarter: Revenue beat the Street by a wide margin and Mac sales -- the crucial metric -- beat expectations. Weak spots: Profitability. March quarter EPS came in below some expectations, and June quarter EPS guidance is weak, too. After a quick 4-5% after-hours jump, shares are trading down about 4%.
March quarter revenue came in high: $7.51 billion, 8% above the Street's $6.95 billion consensus, up 43% year-over-year, and beating whispers up to $7.2 billion. EPS was a little soft at $1.16 vs. whispers near $1.25-1.30, but beat $1.07 consensus.
Apple's all-important Mac sales were a home run. Apple sold 2.29 million Macs, way above the 2.0 million they needed.
Even iPod sales came in above Street sentiment at 10.6 million units. The downside: That's about as many as they sold last March quarter -- a measly 1% gain. The upside: iPod revenue grew 8% year-over-year.
Apple sold 1.7 million iPhones last quarter, right around consensus. Not a great quarter, but 3G (2nd half) is what matters for the future.
Q3 guidance: $7.2 billion revenue, above $7.16 billion consensus -- a rarity for Apple, which typically guides conservatively. But EPS guidance of $1.00 could be disappointing. Consensus was $1.10 and lowball whisper at $1.05. In the past, investors have reacted negatively to weak guidance, so this could potentially hurt the stock.
Conference Call Notes:
4:59 Awaiting call. Muzak.
5:04 Call begins.
5:05 Standard disclaimers.
5:06 Highest March quarter revenue and earnings in Apple history.
5:07 50% of retail CPUs to customers new to Mac. Mac unit growth 35% y/y from education, highest growth rate in last 8 years.
5:08 Mac sales representing 51% growth y/y. 3.5x times March quarter PC market growth from ICD. Up from 2-3x market rate growth from prior quarters. iMac demand drove desktop sales up. Portables grew 61% thanks to MacBook, Pro.
5:09 Same iPod decline as last year. Higher ASPs due to success of iPod touch.
5:10 Share of U.S. MP3 market 73% according to NPD. Outside U.S. gained share. 4-6 weeks of iPod channel inventory.
5:11 iPhone customer momentum good. Confident of selling 10 million iPhones this year.
5:11 Developer response tremendous. 200k+ downloads of SDK. Off the charts interest in iPhone enterprise beta program. 1/3 of Fortune 500 interested.
5:12 Apple retail: 74% up y/y. 458,000 Macs sold, up 68% y/y. Opened 4 stores during quarter to end with 208. Avg rev per store $7.1 million, compared to $4.8 million a year ago. Operating profit doubled to $334 million.
5:14 Opening about 45 stores during fiscal 2008. Comfortable with investment. Total company GM 32.9%, stronger than guidance due to components, weaker dollar.
5:15 Targeting Q3 revenue of about $7.2 billion, or 33% growth over prior June. Gross margin about 33%.
5:16 Expect to generate EPS of about $1.00 in Q3.
5:17 Q&A begins.
5:17 Some negatives for gross margin? What gives you confidence of 33% next quarter? DRAM and NAND pricing hit low levels during March quarter. Expect to remain favorable.
5:19 Did lower priced shuffles cause problem? Peter: We expected gross margin to decline by about 2.7%. Exceeded by 90 bps. Better than expected results thanks to favorable commodity environment, etc. Change in Leopard in other Apple software accounted for 80% of gross margin decline. Other factors: Shuffle price change, International price reductions, higher mix of iTunes, which has lower gross margin, and sequential decline of revenue. Somewhat offset by favorable component pricing, which was ahead of guidance.
5:21 iPhone: Less availability. Widely expecting new products. Anything you could say that you could grow that sequentially? Anything you're worried about in terms of shortages? Tim: Confident in hitting 10 million for the year. Shortages: Expected iPhone to decline more than it did, so we really beat our unit expectations. Started to experience some stock out. At this point, inventory currently low in stores and channel. Believe the reason more phones being bought in US to be unlocked, which remains a significant number. Can't clarify how many. Very difficult to come up with very precise estimate. Continues to be significant. View continues to be that this is a proxy for the worldwide demand of the phone and our focus is very much on roling out to more geographies. More European countries, entering Asia later in the year.
5:23 Direct sales 53%, up from 49% a year ago. Ended with 400 Best Buy stores, targeting 600 in the summer. Rollout is going extremely well. Education: Can you delineate between student programs and institution? Numbers that Peter quoted -- up 35% -- both categories strong. This is a big K-12 quarter.
5:24 Passed Dell last year in portable edu spending. Always worried about budgets but results we've seen to date... we have not seen any issue today.
5:25 Why going to delay revenue recognition on iPhone 2.0? Doing this because we announced specific new features that will be included for free. Will delay revenue recognition on phones sold between March 6 and day we deliver the software.
5:27 Haven't said anything about economy. Peter: We're going to leave economic commentary to others.
5:29 Traffic to stores up 12 million people year over year.
5:30 Intend to deliver iPhone 2.0 in late June. Included delay of revenue recognition in 33%.
5:31 Guiding to $7.2 billion for Q3. Factor several things into thinking: Mac channel inventory increased about 60,000 thanks to Macbook Air launch and greater sales. iPhone won't be recognized until late June. Sequential decrease in iPod expected. Full quarter impact of iPod shuffle and international price reductions.
5:32 More chatter about gross margin. International store openings will be greater this year than last. 27 of 208 were outside U.S. Increased store opening forecast to 45 stores this year.
5:35 Leopard revs in Dec quarter was $170 million, and they were just over $40 million in March quarter. By far the best selling release in history. Also iLife and iWork in third quarter... impact of sequential gross margin decline a little bigger.
5:38 Why will pricing be favorable still? Doesn't mean will go later... envision it trading in a fairly narrow trading range and not increasing that much as we head into the quarter.
5:40 Getting a little testy!
5:43 Nope, not charging for iPhone 2.0 software.
5:44 Not going to forecast exact in-stock levels; have factored current thinking of supply/demand in guidance.
5:45 Who bears cost on iPhone price cuts in Europe? Carrier partners are free to price iPhone as low as they wish; wouldn't comment on specific commercial agreements between Apple and carriers. 3G??? We don't comment on new products! Where seeing strength in channel? Comments in linearity? Strength in all geos. In Americas mac up 52%, Europe 48%, Japan 47%. Consumer appears to be strong. Pro business had nice pickup. Mac Pro sold more units.
5:47 Started shipping Macbook Air late in January, a lot of shipments went out in March. By end of March were at near a supply-demand balance on it. iPhone linearity: Outstripped supply toward the end of the quarter because we sold more than we had expected. Thought there would be more of a sequential decline there than there was.
5:50 Other big reasons for gross margin decline than software? Hard to do y/y gross margin comps because different points in product cycles, commodity cycles. Will stick to sequential comments.
5:51 Comments on P.A. Semi? Nope, no comment on purpose or plans.
5:53 Really hard to estimate unlocked iPhones and we don't want to throw a number out. Unlocking is occurring, and it's significant. Clear interest in demand globally for the iPhone. We're hearing reports of iPhones being used in many countries. Confidence in goal of selling 10 million in 2008.
5:54 Why more supply in Europe than U.S.? Noticeably different demand profile in U.S. versus Europe? Why couldn't you ship phones from Europe to U.S.? Stockouts were occurring in own stores, believe that stores more succeptible to people buying multiple units, then unlocking and exporting. Currently, inventory low in both stores and channel. Also the case in European channel? Don't want to be specific. In aggregate, Europe and U.S. are both low. Was channel also low at end of quarter? Why not better able to allocate? Once shipped and designated, ability to move them from carrier to carrier is low. Some cases with imbalance. Major point is that we sold more than we thought we would; today inventory low in Europe and US.
5:56 No comment on iPhone demand in Europe.
5:59 Any demos on Macbook Air purchasers? Appealing to all sorts of people from college profs to students to people who travel a lot. Caniballization factor very low.
6:00 Call over.
I hope that the stock doesn't plummet after hours! I bet big on the may 08 call contracts! Come on big money!
It always amazes me how people do not guess Apple is going to beat it's estimates. All you have to do is go to any mall and see the only store consistently packed in the Apple Store. Apple is soon going to hit critcal mass, especially with IBM having left the laptop business, to become mainstream, and once that happens, their market share could move to an entirely new plain.
Apple never lets its supporters down nor investors
do not know if it is a smart move, but I am inclined to agree it is. Holding Holding and buying more appl
Lower guidance??? Why am I not surprised that all the Fortune 1000 companies are giving lower guidance?
I love the questions: What went wrong? How come apple didnt have 20billion in revenue. Are ipod sales dead. What about the iphone killers, ipod killers, store failures......Why are you adding stores....we are in a recession? Apple is growing like a weed. The stock manipulation is a day traders dream. Up 10 in afterhours now down 4. History repeats itself. Ive owned apple for 15 years. Great earnings, great growth, but same negative market advisors carrying their 14 pound Dells around. Go to an apple store if you want to really know whats going on. These market advisors are IDIOTS....lkmd
I hope the stock tanks in after-hours so I can buy more. This company is in a league of its own in the tech arena. It's well managed and consistent. I'm not a big fan of buy and hold investing, but considering the fact that kids are growing up with their products (iPhone, iPod) and will no doubt be buying Macs in the future instead of PCs, it looks like they have nowhere to go but up in taking market share from the Windows platform. Incidentally, I'm a PC user, but considering change. Probably not a bad company to hold on to long term.
this is awesome! thansk apple for the lower guidence so I can get back in after the pullback people don't be fooled, if you missed the train now it's back again!
Why am I not surprised by one more great quarter and conservative guidance? ...These 'Analysts' covering AAPL using 50 lb windows laptops should be banned from publishing analysis on Apple.
I haven't looked at the details, but someone told me that they haven't posted the profits for all of their IPHONE sales yet. I can't remember the reasoning. Is that true?
..."vs. whispers near $1.25-1.30..." analysts are idiots, last time I heard the avg poll was was no more than 1.09. I guess they change it to suit their previous assessment of this stock.
typical apple is falling, but if the company is buying up shares we should see it past $170 by friday if not the stock will continue to fall. http://financeninja.wordpress.com
I find it amazing that after 22+ quarters of blowing past expectations, low balling forecasts and being an industry leader people still believe that apple wont beat street expectations. Especially after its performance over the past period was during a recession. Honestly who would sell this stock? It is obvious Shaw Wu at AmTech has no idea what he is doing.
Problem with apple guidance? just add about +25% to their guidance and you get what they are really aiming at. If it will only turn out to be +23% next quarter it will still be an enormous growth story.
Apple blows past numbers time and again, recession or no, and they have been sandbagging their guidance for years - Does anyone else go through this scrutiny at earnings - market heads - give me a break! And I agree - they are IDIOTS!
The Tech revolution is here, and Apple is out front and center in its bid to prove to the world that it can win the hearts and minds of it's users. I am a seasoned PC user, proficent in Office programs, and a multitude of third party applications. I recently bought a Macbook with the DVD burner. I have bought Macs version of Office programs and the transition is effortless to say the least, so new converts will come to Apple and share the good news, that there is a better work or play environment waiting for them. All they need to do is make the leap and be as thrilled as I am to say I own one. Not to mention I own a couple hundred shares as well .
Apple will be 230 by the end of the year. Love this company. Apple and google will be a major part of our lives in the near future. Another great quarter.
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Scott - Wednesday April 23, 2008 05:03PM EDT
once again apple posts a great quarter and then give lower guidance..... typical jobs downplaying his dominance in the market these days