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Beware of Zombie Banks!

Posted Dec 23, 2008 08:30am EST by Sarah Lacy in Investing, Recession, Banking

What's keeping blogger and investor Paul Kedrosky up late at night? It's a Fear of what he calls "Zombie Banks,' or the next ticking time bomb in the world of finance.

The collapse of money markets and equities has unleashed a torrent of cash looking for new places to go. Big recipients have been certificates of desposit offered by small and regional banks. These banks have the same issues with real estate exposure of the big banks, but they're not getting any bailout money. So instead, they've been shoring up deposits by offering better CD rates than the big guys. And investors have been scouring the Web for the highest rates and snapping them up with little regard to the banks’ health. That's what FDIC insurance is for, right?

The danger is nothing less than a redux of the Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s, Kedrosky says. Where are the regulators?

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64 Comments

- Tuesday December 23, 2008 08:47AM EST

I'm doing it. I bailed on the stock market and went to cash earlier in the year and only had very small losses for 2008. Now my cash has gone to the bank in FDIC insured CDs. They still pay 5% risk free anad guarnateed for 5 years, so rates have not come down - yet - in a zero interest enviroment! As a net saver with no other debt than a small mortgage and tons of equity in my house, this may be my only chance and getting something of my own 'bailout' in this deal!

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__A_YAHOO_USER__ - Tuesday December 23, 2008 08:48AM EST

Frankenstein, the mummy and dracula are back to suck our money from our accounts. I wonder how stupid people will be after all this struggle and scandal

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__A_YAHOO_USER__ - Tuesday December 23, 2008 08:57AM EST

ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THE NEW ADMINISTRATION WILL BAIL THEM OUT......IS THAT A PROBLEM? ANY THING CAN BE SORTED OUT......TO MAKE IT BETTER........WE SEE ANYTHING NEW YET....WITH THE NW POLICY AND NEW IDEA, NEW SOLUTION IN 21ST CENTURY.........SOTHERE IS A PROBLEM THERE IS A SOLUTION TOO.....SIMPLE AS THAT.........

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__A_YAHOO_USER__ - Tuesday December 23, 2008 08:58AM EST

I guess CD's and Money Markets will be the new subprime bubble. So, in about 7 years, will we be bailing them out next?

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__A_YAHOO_USER__ - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:03AM EST

BIG BANKS ARE ALL ZOMBIES THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE RESSURECTED BY THE $ 700 BILLIONS BAIL-OUT.....SO I CALL LIFE AFTER DEATH.......BIG BANKS NOW ARE STRONG......SAME SOLUTION CAN CAN BE APPLIED TOO TO THE SMALL BANK......ANYHOW THE PROBLEM IS IN GENERAL ARE DEBTS.....SO MONY CAN MOVES A MOUNTAIN...BAIL-OUT TOO...I DO NOT LIKE IT BUT IT HAPPENED........WILL IT HAPPENE AGAIN....I SAY YES.....THE BIG MAN WILL PRONOUNCE IT.....WITH ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PLUS GUARANTEE....NO CHOICE....CHECK MATE........THAT WILL BE THE OUTCOME.......CHECK MATE....

Bob
Bob - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:04AM EST

All this gloom and doom fits right in to the Obama Plan. Just give up now and they won't have to fire a shot?

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__A_YAHOO_USER__ - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:06AM EST

We need to bailout out of iraq. Now that we have less boredom state-side, we should stay out of the bombtossers business

HiImTomBrady
HiImTomBrady - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:06AM EST

This article is just plain wrong. All kinds and sizes of banks are eligible to receive capital, liquidity facilities, and increased FDIC protection. Put your money in a public bank and watch it's financials, or you can go to http://www2.fdic.gov/idasp/main.asp and look up call report info for any FDIC insured bank. Look for a Tier 1 capital ratio above 10 (higher is "safer"). Small banks should consider a class action libel suit against Kedrosky and Lacy. They are basically yelling "fire" in a full theatre here.

Maloogie
Maloogie - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:06AM EST

Cash goes back into equities when everybody and his kid brother says just the opposite. There's been a dead cat bounce in the market of 20%, so on the inevitable pullbacks, high yielding stocks in staples like JNJ and MO etc yielding 6-9% deserve a one percent investment every two weeks for the next year or two. I can't call the bottom, but when everybody is pulling in one direction, you buy a bit at a time. Buffet says buy when others panic. This is the time.

william
william - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:07AM EST

People are not the stupid ones here getting 5% FDIC insured is great, even better is 7% dividend from blue chips, when the price recovers and dividends go "up" to say 2%, you will possibly getting 15% on your investment along with the appreciation! Ye ha Once in a lifetime

william
william - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:08AM EST

Buying AA MSFT INTC Verizon MOT RIMM S T GT GE DD DOW KFT JPM MS etc good buys folks no matter what happens later

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__A_YAHOO_USER__ - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:08AM EST

Hey Bob, dont forget that gloom and doom was brought by the bush (stinks) administration. the worst presidents that ever lived. republicants are all jesus juiced up

Bob
Bob - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:08AM EST

I remain aghast that nobody has been commenting on the huge billions of criminal purpose "loans" made by the banks to finance "stock buybacks" which have reduced the Net Tangible Equity of vast swaths of formerly great American companies to severe deficit, i.e. de facto bankrupt status with only some paper filing, of the same facts that they disclose in their SEC financial reports, with the bankruptcy courts to complete the wipeout of cash paid public stockholders. Those "loans" in anticipation of bankruptcy make the goosing of housing costs via the Real Estate Bubble pale in comparison.

Les
Les - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:09AM EST

The derivative is negative. i.e. Things are getting worse faster. Will income re-distribution save us all, oh Barack, oh choosen one?

B
B - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:12AM EST

all day long. give me the highest rate and I know I cant lose when the bank fails because the cd is FDIC insured. The higher the rate offered for cds, the more likely to fail. Amtrust, GMAC, Mesa, Magnet

G
G - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:16AM EST

The govt. doesn't have deep eneough pockets to bail everything out indefinitely. They will go broke, or print unlimited "money," which will cause the dollar, then most of us, to go broke as well. Foreigners may stop lending us money for Treasuries.

saltydizzle
saltydizzle - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:17AM EST

Where is the regulation? Where has it been? But as soon as you regulate this industry people will cry socialism.....capitalism doesnt work due to the human factor.

DavidB
DavidB - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:18AM EST

Don't fool yourselves;Noboby bailed out WAMU shareholders.So nothing is a guaranteed bailout except uncertanty.I hear SEC is going to rescue MADINOFF victims,whynot WAMU /FDIC victims?Sees nothing is fair or certain.

Brent
Brent - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:19AM EST

CD's are great, until mild deflation turns to hyper inflation, and your money is locked up, depreciating like the worthless paper currency it is denominated in. My advice is stick to short term (

CHRIS
CHRIS - Tuesday December 23, 2008 09:19AM EST

This guy is an idiot. All banks are audited by either the state or FDIC at least once a year. Once a banks capital falls below 6% of the loan portfolio, the regulators step in and try to arrange a merger with a stronger bank. Once a bank's capital falls below 10% of the loan portfolio, it is not "well capitalized" any more and does not qualify for broker CD's. Based on this guy's analysis you would think the banks are flush with cash. Of course anybody is an idiot to go on line and sink $ in a CD without doing their due diligence on the finanical condition of the bank or even if the bank legitimately exists. Next time, get somebody to speak that is educated on the banking system and not some "Blogger".

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