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My Meeting with Bernie: "Reputational Risk" a Big Concern for Madoff, Says James Altucher

Posted Feb 12, 2009 11:30am EST by Aaron Task in Investing, Newsmakers
Amid massive bailouts and stimulus bills from Washington, the Bernie Madoff scandal has receded from the headlines a bit. But the stench from the $50 billion ponzi scheme continues to emanate.

The latest: Madoff's wife Ruth allegedly withdrew $15.5 million from her husband's brokerage arm in the weeks prior to his mid-December admission that his investment fund was all a big sham.

To James Altucher, managing partner of Formula Capital and author of The Forever Portfolio, the news is further evidence that Madoff wasn't acting alone, as he has claimed.

Unlike whistle-blower Harry Markopolos, Altucher doesn't claim direct knowledge of how Madoff's firm operated. But he does have a personal tale of pitching an investment idea to the infamous money manager and being rejected for, get this, "reputational risk."

It would be funny if not for the 100s of individuals, institutions and charities wiped out by the scandal.

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Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:30PM EST

"Munsoned" That's a good one!

JohnT
JohnT - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:31PM EST

Madoff is a blot on humanity. He had to have had help, and the wife was doing more than just spending his money. He should be locked up along with everyone who worked on the secretive floor. He should be forever shamed that he took advantage of people's trust. Integrity and a good name apparently mean nothing to him. Shame on the investors who trusted him as well. They should have requested an outside auditor's evaluation. I feel sorry for the charities who invested with them, and their directors should be fired for not doing due diligence. I hope they put Madoff in jail and throw away the key.

JohnT
JohnT - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:31PM EST

Madoff is a blot on humanity. He had to have had help, and the wife was doing more than just spending his money. He should be locked up along with everyone who worked on the secretive floor. He should be forever shamed that he took advantage of people's trust. Integrity and a good name apparently mean nothing to him. Shame on the investors who trusted him as well. They should have requested an outside auditor's evaluation. I feel sorry for the charities who invested with them, and their directors should be fired for not doing due diligence. I hope they put Madoff in jail and throw away the key.

alphamicro
alphamicro - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:32PM EST

Lock up the wife and sons. Madoff would have had to work 25 hours per day to produce just the required paperwork required for this scam. The only real question is "how much help" he had.

Roger P
Roger P - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:34PM EST

Dow 50,000 by 2035

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:35PM EST

"The biggest Ponzi scheme is Social Security. Did I miss the part where the perps of that one went to jail?"writes Mr D again. It is hard to believe that this is the only moronic comment that Mr. D has in his arsenal. Surely he must have more and better. His public awaits.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:37PM EST

Roger - I see you're still high. More like Dow on it's way back up to 8000 by 2035.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:37PM EST

You rode it down didn't you Roger.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:38PM EST

Bernie is going to get banged in jail.....i might bang his wife

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:38PM EST

Bernie is going to get banged in jail.....i might bang his wife

Gregg
Gregg - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:38PM EST

South Carolina police want to chase down and arrest Michael Phelps for pulling on a bong. On the other hand, we have Bernie Madoff with "I madeoff with your money" scheme who is still living in his NY penthouse apartment and his wife cashing $15.5 million checks to evade discovery. We have multiple current legislators and cabinet members who are tax cheats and former lobyists who have authority to give themselves pay raises with a $94,000 petty cash fund at their discretion. Tell me where the priorities are...? I guess I missed it.

larrys
larrys - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:42PM EST

i was in jail just for a dui and was broke here 50 million man with the easy lifeeeeeeee so unreal still lmaooooooo..bad man the judge

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:43PM EST

Is that Madoff walking past the window at 6:24 with the cartload of aluminum cans?

Teresa
Teresa - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:51PM EST

Frank, You make a great point. The nature of investment banking is that they make money raising money for corporations to grow/expland/do whatever, however they want with few exceptions. The 'risk' is then spread among the masses via a stock offering. After the offering is complete, the companies have their money and the stockholders own a stock in the company. There are civil laws that are in place to 'protect' investors, but few criminal laws that are strong enough to deter the big money from getting too greedy. Caveat emptor. When you buy a stock, you are buying on the faith that the management is going to run the business responsibly and ethically for the best interest of the shareholders. That is why due diligence is so important in investing. And, with the current circumstances, I think many corporations who got out of line, will turn around out of necessity if nothing else. They cannnot continue to do business as they have been.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:51PM EST

How many aluminum cans will it take to pay off 50 billion?

Richard
Richard - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:54PM EST

The economy will not rebound until there are penalties to keep these giants from stealing from the people who have a little extra to invest. Because, now the multitude of small invstors are sitting on their money because they do not trust the system.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:55PM EST

I'm glad I wasn't "Madoffed". The term "Madoffed" will have a totally different meaning in jail I hope.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:57PM EST

Those prison Ho's gonna find out if she's a true blonde.

lisalipps
lisalipps - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:57PM EST

GO F#$K yourself MADOFF! Nothing but a slap on the wrist.

hardykho
hardykho - Thursday February 12, 2009 12:59PM EST

Of course madoff not working by himself. America is the mother of all corruption. Uganda, Zimbabwe, Pakistan, Philipine, etc is peanut corruption.

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