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You Should Be Worried About Inflation, Not Deflation, Says Paul Kasriel

Posted Jun 02, 2009 10:40am EDT by Henry Blodget in Products and Trends, Recession, Banking

From The Business Insider, June 2, 2009: 

Northern Trust economist Paul Kasriel, who is usually right, concludes that you should now worry a lot more about inflation than deflation.  Paul thus sides with John Hussman, Niall Ferguson, and others--and against Paul Krugman, who thinks all this talk of inflation is just Republican fear-mongering.

Kasriel's forecast, comfortingly, calls for only 3%-4% inflation for the next few years.  Compared to the hyper-inflation that we and others are worried about, this would be a dream scenario.

Paul bases his conclusion on both secular (long-term) and cyclical (economic cycle) factors, some of which are arcane.  You can download the full report here. Here's a snapshot of the key points:

I will not keep you in suspense. I believe that the greater risk for the global economy in general and the U.S. economy in particular is inflation, not deflation. I arrive at this conclusion both on secular and cyclical grounds.


b>Real interest rates are low, which will encourage inflation, just as they did in the 1970s.


Productivity growth, which is deflationary, is now falling.


The growth of Asia, which has been very deflationary, is likely to slow as a percentage of the world economy:


US debt is expected to explode as a percentage of GDP, even according to Obama's OMB estimates (which show a ludicrously flat peak.  Gaze back over the earlier years and ask yourself what chance there is that THAT will happen).  The Fed will be under pressure to inflate its way out of the problem, and it will err on the side of doing so.


The money supply is growing rapidly. "Velocity" (the speed with which this money flows throughout the economy) is currently low, which is holding inflation down. But if the economy picks up, so will velocity.  Krugman shows that changes in the money supply correlated closely to the inflation and deflation of the 1930s.  He also rejects the hypothesis that the "output gap" will restrain inflation, again by looking at the 1930s.


Bottom Line: Kasriel expects inflation of 3%-4% per year for the next couple of years.

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70 Comments

Mike
Mike - Tuesday June 02, 2009 11:49AM EDT

Rick - I hear you. As long as the market is going up on the rate of cash burn decreasing, and only in certain sectors, Its hard to buy into this. One concern I have is that the recent rally could driven by expectations of inflation coming in the future (dollar has been getting hammered). So your options are to stay in cash and watch that slowly lose value or go into a market where the fundamentals are clearly lousy. Fun stuff.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:00PM EDT

Henry and Aaron just create a platform for our discussion. Sure they are biased. Who isn't? I've never heard them screaming to follow their advice. BTW, America's biggest creditor is now .... America.

TCV
TCV - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:02PM EDT

The debt isn't a problem. I do believe we need to get our house in order but We are America and We make the Rules. If we go down, we take the world with us and then we form a new currency and rebuild and make them all keep their worthless Treasuries. lmao

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:13PM EDT

To those that claim that Aaron task and Blodget are irrationally negative, I suggest you read up on Elliot waves. That is, there is timing in the market. And its not fair to expect the timing from them. if you can get that right, you would be a zillionaire. If anyone had that knowledge, why should they give it away free to all the bozzos here?

BullyTheBear
BullyTheBear - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:15PM EDT

I really appears to me that the ones who were "lucky" to get in on this rally have swollowed the "bull-market fish", the ones who missed the boat and hopped to get in on a more serious dip are sour, either way, this is indeed a BMR and only the ones manipulating it will know for sure when it will end. until then ride it and short it at the same time, I am certain sooner rather than later this big fat lye will pop and then, well then hold your breath!

Warren
Warren - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:21PM EDT

Deflation is the products of deep recession, while inflation derived from exessive stimulus, rate cuts, in consumer, business spending rebound recovery reuslted speculation over soaring asset ( commodities, oil, metal, equities reale state) prices inflation. we are worried about this years deep resulted deflation while next years asset ( negative interest rate, bond bubble, commodity, energy price bubbles assocaited inflation will repeat 2001 housing prices bubble details on www.osawh.com/macro.html www.osawh.com/prod01.htm www.osawh.com/centmaf.html

I'm Just saying
I'm Just saying - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:34PM EDT

Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 11:09AM EDT Hey Henry - Last time I checked, Paul Krugman has a Nobel Prize for economics. Kasriel, Hussman, Ferguson, and you got jack squat. Talk to the hand. Try to write something believable if you can. And forget your graphs - they're all static nonsense. They mean nothing.===== Didn't Al Gore get a Nobel Prize? Sorta tarnishes the rose, huh?

MGA_1
MGA_1 - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:36PM EDT

Guns and Gold !! Well, j/k about the guns, but, I think inflation is coming down the pike. The thing to watch for is the fed buying govt t bills directly.. if that happens, the inflationary spiral has begun !

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:36PM EDT

"Geithner said that in two days of talks, Chinese officials recognized the need to move aggressively to revive growth and stabilize the banking system even at the cost of higher U.S. government budget deficits." Guess what? The Chinese cleared Tiny Tim for spending more nonexistent month.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:37PM EDT

for all you bulls out there, answer me this: once the gov't stimulus runs out, what will fuel growth to justify the current prices of the stock market? and don't forget all the forclosures still coming, the number of unemployed, the metric tons of bad debt on the banks books, etc.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:50PM EDT

I'm more worried about a third generation of soft, junk food eating narcissists with peas for brains and Mammon as their God!

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:53PM EDT

China is bluffing the whole way .... They need the $$$$. The reason is simple, their RMB Yuan SHOULD be even weaker. The weaker $$$ will be stronger because all other fiat currencies are weaker than the weak $$$. This is the world we are in.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:55PM EDT

Theory doesn't mean jack if your timing is off, unless you are not invested and just like to see if you can call it better than the "experts"... if you can't put a date on it, better to ride the waves!

I'm Just saying
I'm Just saying - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:56PM EDT

for all you bulls out there, answer me this: once the gov't stimulus runs out, what will fuel growth to justify the current prices of the stock market? and don't forget all the forclosures still coming, the number of unemployed, the metric tons of bad debt on the banks books, etc.======= Aw, that's easy, PIXEY DUST

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 12:56PM EDT

Theory doesn't mean jack if your timing is off, unless you are not invested and just like to see if you can call it better than the "experts"... if you can't put a date on it, better to ride the waves!

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 01:00PM EDT

When the entire financial system was on the verge of collapse, the federal government was the only entity with enough money to prop it up, which they did, as we know. They chose NOT to let the banks fail, due to anticipated catastrophic repercussions. This strategy of providing massive amounts of capital to prevent total collapse has been employed with the auto makers. To let certain companies fall would have resulted in A LOT of pain, for A LOT of people, for A LONG time. Many people would be suffering, and it would not be long before they started raising hell, and blaming our leaders for just ALLOWING this to happen! I guess, at that time, they would just explain to the masses that all the suffering was healthy, normal, and quite necessary, because that’s how things work in a capitalistic society? Boy, I’ll admit I wouldn’t want that task, either.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 01:00PM EDT

Pending Home Sales Index: The index measures housing contract activity. It is based on signed real estate contracts for existing single-family homes, condos and co-ops. A signed contract is not counted as a sale until the transaction closes. spin ... spin .... spin ... spin .... spin

Dawgzilla
Dawgzilla - Tuesday June 02, 2009 01:14PM EDT

unrepresented_american: There is one problem with your philosophy: People will just go to your home/business/hideout to get what you have "stored up"; it would be like taking candy from a baby! Everyone who is need and doesn't have will GET needed food, clothing, fuel, etc...when they DON'T have. But, being you so graciously stocked everything up, they will be very grateful. They won't even have to work for it. Also, if you plan on gaurding your "goods" 24 hours a day with weapons, I'm sure sleep is the least thing you need, right!? Finally, this stock market is rallying on what grounds: optimism, bankruptcy, housing crisis, inflation and ONLY 575K jobs lost, let alone a supercalifragilisticexpealodotious national debt that would be impossible to pay back (the interest alone would be tough on a kazillion dollars)!? By the way, what other business (at least the ma & pa) gets bailed out when they are in trouble?! Trouble is, there are so many sidebars and associated businesses with GM, BofA, C, and AIG, etc...that we are damned if we do and damned if we don't!

__A_YAHOO_USER__
__A_YAHOO_USER__ - Tuesday June 02, 2009 01:15PM EDT

Conclusion: Those who POST here are just as DUMB and easily mislead as those who run the thing. NOBODY is interested in ANY opinions here! If you were RICH, you'd be in Europe bangin' a supermodel!!! In other words: Go do SOMETHING with your lives and KILL your computer!

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Tuesday June 02, 2009 01:17PM EDT

The world is more than just America. I left America 8 years ago. Trust me, there's a really good, positive life to be had out here without all the cynicism and rage and saturation media coverage! I just wish the plumbing were better :)

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