Current Quarter 'Crescendo' of Recession, But There's No 'V' in Recovery, Sonders Says

Should we expect an "L" shaped recovery then?

I've got an idea. How about the Federal Reserve stop collecting all interest on the National Debt for 6 months. Oh wait, they would have to print more money to pay themselves their extravagant wages. How about another "weekend at Bernies"?

Fear is rampant. Look at "NRF" stock. P/E is ridiculous. Yield is silly. But people sell. Fear is the problem.

What letter would you call Japan's recovery?

I guess I'm just dense. In 1989 Japan (Government, households, and businesses) had too much debt; it's the same in the US in 2008. Japan cut their rates to effective zero; same in the US. The Japanese government propped up effectively bankrupt corporations; same in the US. Japan weakened any "mark to market" provisions they had so that balance sheets became meaningless; the details are different but....same in the US. Japan did not allow the markets to clear failed enterprises, mortgages, etc; same in the US. Finally, there is no real proof that the Japanese policies actually were effective. Nor, admittedly, is there any proof that they were ineffective. So tell me again: Why are we going to do better than Japan did?

Aaron yes they are trying to bankrupt everyone. No decent returns on CD's means that the elderly will have to start spending their principal and won't be able to pass wealth on to their heirs. Also look at the bank bail out, pass out amounts of money you can hardly grasp the size of and they use the money to fund bonuses for all the elitist, yet to hell with auto industry because the working class needs to make big concessions. Its all about, "The New World Order". I hate what this country has become. Bernie Madoff runs a 20 year ponzi scheme and nobody knows anything, but try not claiming your gains on stock trading and let's see how long it would take them to climb up your keyster to take you down. When I opened my business years ago and in our first full year we had sales of 1 mil+ the state awarded me with an audit. One country two sets of rules. I would go to Canada but its just to darn cold up there.

Aaron yes they are trying to bankrupt everyone. No decent returns on CD's means that the elderly will have to start spending their principal and won't be able to pass wealth on to their heirs. Also look at the bank bail out, pass out amounts of money you can hardly grasp the size of and they use the money to fund bonuses for all the elitist, yet to hell with auto industry because the working class needs to make big concessions. Its all about, "The New World Order". I hate what this country has become. Bernie Madoff runs a 20 year ponzi scheme and nobody knows anything, but try not claiming your gains on stock trading and let's see how long it would take them to climb up your keyster to take you down. When I opened my business years ago and in our first full year we had sales of 1 mil+ the state awarded me with an audit. One country two sets of rules. I would go to Canada but its just to darn cold up there.

Aaron yes they are trying to bankrupt everyone. No decent returns on CD's means that the elderly will have to start spending their principal and won't be able to pass wealth on to their heirs. Also look at the bank bail out, pass out amounts of money you can hardly grasp the size of and they use the money to fund bonuses for all the elitist, yet to hell with auto industry because the working class needs to make big concessions. Its all about, "The New World Order". I hate what this country has become. Bernie Madoff runs a 20 year ponzi scheme and nobody knows anything, but try not claiming your gains on stock trading and let's see how long it would take them to climb up your keyster to take you down. When I opened my business years ago and in our first full year we had sales of 1 mil+ the state awarded me with an audit. One country two sets of rules. I would go to Canada but its just to darn cold up there.

What Recovery? Don't believe the Gov., Wallstreet, The Fed, Investment Strategists, etc. They lie. There is no relief in sight for years. This country has been severly damaged at home and in the worlds view we are now theives. How long to repair this? It took eight years to accomplish!

Redwoodkape, you hit the nail right on the head. We are following the Japanese script to a "T". In psychology we have a name for this: "magical thinking" which is a symptom of a dysfunctional person or system. Exhibit the same behavior again and again but expect a different outcome. Japan has been in and out of depression for near 20 years. I expect the same for the US if we keep the current course of action. It started in 2000.

The fear thing is trite. Fear is the result of the problem, it agrivates the problem. The problem is the economy. Fix it and you start alleviating that fear. Who would invest in Chrysler right now? Not many people because they are afraid they will lose. Please are not spending because they are afraid of losing their jobs. Fear won't stop until the government does something to make people less fearful.

Learn Mandarin.

Hey Obama. I VOTED FOR CHANGE! Mary Shapiro to head the corrupt SEC, To watchdog criminal and RIGGED wall street is a slap in the face. She is an INSIDER. What a joke, change. OBAMA, you are in bed already with WALL STREET. A law enforcement official that wont look the other way and put the hammer down on wall street is CHANGE. I am disgusted, let down, and have been lied to by another politician. AMERICA IS CORRUPT AND RIGGED. Say it OBAMA, oh ya cant now, cause its obvious now you plan to keep corruption as is.

Liz should have said, "The US has WASTED more in 10 weeks than Japan has in 10 years". If we can waste that much money in 10 weeks, I'd hate to see how much we can waste in 10 years. However, the outcome will be the same, except we will have printed ourselves into default. Then what happens?

I guess the first installment of the 700billiion bailout will be used in part to help the financials pay these exuberent bonuses and taxpayers outside of this group are losing there jobs and would get stuck with the outgrageous expense ? What is the logic in all of this. ? I thought one of the purposes was to stop the financial from hoarding the money and start running is primary business of lending again. ? Can someone please explain. ?

The Yahoo web site has issue. Is Jerry in charge of writing code now?

Community currency or Bolshevik revolution for the bankers. Decide.

we expect an "I" shaped recovery

Is an automaker "Orderly Bankruptcy" similar to "Assisted Suicide"? Hell no, let them die on their own!

I've diversified my stocks. Some have rifle barrels and some have shotgun barrels.