Despite the recent pullback in the stock market, most people are still bullish.
The economy's finally recovering, they note. Jobless claims are finally improving, corporate profits are at record highs, and bond yields are so appallingly low that investors are almost forced into the market.
And all that is true.
But unless "it's different this time" (the four most expensive words in the English language), stock returns over the next decade are likely to be far worse than average.
Why?
Valuation.
Stocks appear reasonably valued when viewed against today's super-high profit margins. But in the past, every time profit margins have gotten so high (and they've only gotten this high once before), profit margins have reverted to the mean, taking stocks down with them.
Only 5 times in the past 60 years have corporate profit margins approached the levels they're at today. And note what happened each time thereafter. (They regressed to--or beyond--the mean.)
When corporate profit margins are expanding, profits grow faster than revenue, and stock multiples usually expand (stocks track profits over the long haul).
When corporate profit margins are shrinking, profits grow more slowly than revenue, and stock multiples usually contract.
The most optimistic forecasts for GDP for the next several years (a proxy for corporate revenue) call for growth of 3%-4% per year.
If profit margins stay at today's high levels, this would mean earnings growth of about 3%-4% per year, which is below normal.
If profit margins begin to revert to the mean, meanwhile, profit growth will be even slower.
Yes, there is always a possibility that we're in a "new normal" in which profit margins will keep expanding for years, if not forever. (Well, okay, not forever. Even the biggest bull would be forced to agree that, at some point, profit margins have to stop expanding, or profits will get bigger than revenue.)
Based on the history of the past 60 years, however, this seems unlikely. At several points in the past 60 years, it looked like profit margins had hit a new normal, only to see them collapse to the mean. And the odds are that the same thing will happen this time.
What could bring profit margins down?
Any of a number of things:
* Increasing commodity prices, which companies might not be able to pass through to end users
* Higher taxes, as federal and local governments try to balance their budgets
* Higher labor costs, as weak-dollar policies raise the cost of foreign manufacturing
* Deflation, as companies are forced to compete by cutting prices because consumer demand remains weak
* Recession. No one's talking about a double-dip now, but that doesn't mean we won't eventually get one. And have a look at what corporate profit margins have done in past recessions.
If corporate profit margins stay at today's high level for the next several years, the only way the stock market will deliver strong returns is if the market's P/E ratio expands. Again, it's possible that the PE ratio will do this, but the PE ratio is already high.
Specifically, on cyclically adjusted earnings (more on this here), today's PE ratio is about 22X, versus a long-term average of 16X.
It's possible that the market's PE will stay elevated (or get even more elevated). But it's more likely that the PE ratio will also regress to the mean.
In today's market, in other words, we have both extremely high profit margins and abnormally high PE ratios. In all previous history, both measures have tended to regress to--and beyond--the mean.
So does this mean you should jettison your stocks?
No.
Neither of these measures are useful for predicting what the market will do over the short- and intermediate-term (days, weeks, months, and even years). Over the long-term, however, they've shown a strong predictive ability.
So the combination of high profit margins and high PEs suggests that you should ratchet down your expectations for stock returns to well below the 10% long-term average.
And it also means that you should ask every bull to explain to you 1) why profit margins will keep expanding even though they're already near record highs, and 2) why PEs will keep expanding even though they're well above normal.
Whatever the bulls' answer is, be skeptical. Because what they're really saying is "it's different this time."
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Part of the rationale shows a lack of understanding about how businesses operate. Because many costs are fixed - rent, etc. - profits should always grow faster than revenue over time. For instance, if costs are $80 and revenue is $100, so pre-tax profit is $20, and then revenue grows to $110 but expenses only rise to $87, profits will grow 15% [$20 to $23] vs revenue growth of 10% [$100 to $110].
Never bet against the American Economy.
The new normal is that sometime ago some people in other nations were full of hatred for the USA, and chanted down with the USA. Now, even the extreme right wants to take down the USA, because the would rather destroy all, than live in a democratic society where the agenda can be determined by people that do not share their faith to the extreme. Who drives the extreme right besides churches, it is Wall Street. Like the housing market it is all the way up, and as Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and all the extremists say, they want the president to loose at which ever cost. With the help of the republican party, which is more concerned with the loosing president birth certificate issue than fixing the economy.
Just another propaganda piece by the ever liberal progressive yahoo. QE2 is responsible for the "better economy" as well as people tired of living in fear fo a crashing market. Hey its Christmas time. Its time to buy. This is America. Most people still
have to keep up with the Joneses if they can.
As far as ther market is concerned, it is held up by behemoths like JPMorgan, Goldman and the boys, Citi, and QE2 feeding them. The public sector for the most part is out of the market. When they can rig the market to plummet 1,000 (1 trillion bucks) in a single day with a @#$% explanation, it was time to abandon the stocks and go into precious metals, commodities and the like, something tangible. Wake up to the big spin machine coming out of Wall st/DC. The counterfeiters (FED) are hard at work shoving shims under the teetering economy with QE1 and 2 and 3 to come in 2011.
Only those who Bearish postion, who hold a lot of bet to fall like the bear market to make money........They Love it...........For me Ilove progress and advancement so I favor Bull.......But I am not reckless and very panicky like OTHERs because I am a tactician and had a lot of strategy........I study every situation.......
I don't care what profit margins are, you bozos. I just want to see growth in profits. Your prediction that profits are tied to GDP overlooks the fact that profit margins have been 8 1/2% with growth of less than three per cent. Why can't this continue? You suggest that corporations will hire when it is not in their interests. Not. You also overlook that the S&P earn half their revenue abroad and are not dependent on the domestic reported economy. And that at least 10% of their revenues come from the underground economy. I predict that with the cheap dollar and global growth of 4.8% they will earn closer to 60% of their revenues abroad. I predict that the reported economy will not contribute more than 30% to their revenues next year. RSVP
And a pox on all tiny tots who attempt to bury me without replying. Spit it my tots!
madoff not in the game anymore?
Many analysts like to use valuation metrics based on near-zero interest rates to justify high stock valuations, some still saying stocks are substantially undervalued..
The problem is, with central banks in developed countries furiously printing money, can interest rates stay at zero forever? The developing world is already starting to struggle with inflation, the problem will likely not just stay contained with them for long.
When rates start to rise stocks are likely to fall because they will lose the support of free money. The stock market looks ahead so stocks will probably fall well in advance of when interest rates actually start to rise.
Your profit margins are also high when you do not deduct your liabilities. Just what most companies owe to their pension funds would put them in the red
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