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Edited Transcript of AAOI earnings conference call or presentation 7-May-20 8:30pm GMT

Q1 2020 Applied Optoelectronics Inc Earnings Call

Sugar Land May 26, 2020 (Thomson StreetEvents) -- Edited Transcript of Applied Optoelectronics Inc earnings conference call or presentation Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:30:00pm GMT

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Corporate Participants

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* Chih-Hsiang Lin

Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - Founder, Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

* Stefan J. Murry

Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer

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Conference Call Participants

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* Bharat Daryani

JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Analyst

* Elizabeth Mary Pate

Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division - Research Associate

* Joseph Newton Flynn

Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division - Research Analyst

* Simon Matthew Leopold

Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst

* Monica M. Gould

The Blueshirt Group, LLC - MD

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Presentation

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Operator [1]

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Good afternoon. I will be your conference operator. And at this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Applied Optoelectronics First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the call over to Monica Gould, Investor Relations for AOI. Ms. Gould, you may begin.

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Monica M. Gould, The Blueshirt Group, LLC - MD [2]

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Thank you. I'm Monica Gould, Investor Relations for Applied Optoelectronics, and I'm pleased to welcome you to AOI's First Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. After the market closed today, AOI issued a press release announcing its first quarter 2020 financial results and provided its outlook for the second quarter of 2020. The release is also available on the company's website at ao-inc.com. This call is being recorded and webcast live. A link to the recording can be found on the Investor Relations section of the AOI website and will be archived for 1 year.

Joining us on today's call is Dr. Thompson Lin, AOI's Founder, Chairman and CEO; and Dr. Stefan Murry, AOI's Chief Financial Officer and Chief Strategy Officer. Thompson will give an overview of AOI's Q1 results, and Stefan will provide financial details and the outlook for the second quarter of 2020. A question-and-answer session will follow our prepared remarks.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you to review AOI's safe harbor statement. On today's call, management will make forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties as well as assumptions and current expectations which could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking statements. In some cases, you can identify forward-looking statements by terminology such as believes, anticipates, estimates, intends, predicts, expects, plans, may, should, could, would, will or thinks and by other similar expressions that convey uncertainty of future events or outcomes. Forward-looking statements also include statements regarding management's beliefs and expectations related to the expansion of the reach of our products into new markets and customer responses to our innovations as well as statements regarding the company's outlook for the second quarter of 2020. Except as required by law, we assume no obligation to update forward-looking statements for any reason after the date of this earnings call to conform these statements to actual results or to changes in the company's expectations. More information about other risks that may impact the company's business are set forth in the Risk Factors section of the company's reports on file with the SEC, including the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2019.

Also, with the exception of revenue, all financials discussed today are on a non-GAAP basis, unless specifically noted otherwise. Non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation between our GAAP and non-GAAP measures as well as a discussion of why we present non-GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings press release that is available on our website.

Before moving to the financial results, I'd like to announce that AOI management will virtually present at the Cowen 48th Annual Technology Media and Telecom Conference on May 29 and at the Stifel Cross Sector Insight Conference on June 10. These discussions will be webcast live and links to the webcast will be available on the Investor Relations section of the AOI website. We hope to have the opportunity to interact with many of you virtually. Additionally, I'd like to note that the date of our second quarter 2020 earnings call is currently scheduled for August 6, 2020.

Now I would like to turn the call over to Dr. Thompson Lin, Applied Optoelectronics' Founder, Chairman and CEO. Thompson?

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Chih-Hsiang Lin, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - Founder, Chairman of the Board, President & CEO [3]

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Thank you, Monica, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. First, I would like to thank the entire AOI team who has come together to support each other and our customers through this crisis. Our thoughts go out to all those individuals around the world who are suffering from this virus and the first responders who are protecting our communities, we thank you.

We have taken numerous actions to ensure the safety and well-being of our employees while continuing to support our customers' needs. Our offices around the world are generally back to normal operations, and we are adopting recommendations and safeguards in our factory to maintain optimal working conditions. These measures include regular testing of the employees, where available; mandatory use of face mask and other personal protective equipment; increased remote working; and limitation on meeting and employee gathering. I am pleased to report that no AOI employees has so far tested positive for the virus. However, we will continue to strictly enforce these new requirements for the safety of our employees and the larger society of which we are a part.

Turning to the quarter. AOI delivered Q1 revenue of $40.5 million, which was below our expected guidance range due primarily to shipping delays out of China and Taiwan due to the COVID-19 pandemic. As a result, we have certain shipments from China and Taiwan and approximately $2.3 million in revenue associated with these shipments pushed into Q2.

AOI delivered non-GAAP gross margin of 19.5% and a non-GAAP net loss of $0.44 per share, which was below our expected guidance range due to increased expense during the quarter associated with the coronavirus. As we discussed on our Q4 earnings call, in order to reduce the impact of the shutdown in China on our customers, we took measures to increase production in our factories in Taiwan and in the U.S., which resulted in higher costs during Q1 than we are initially expecting. Given the regularly changing environment during this pandemic, there remains significant uncertainty. But we currently believe that most of the impact to operations from the COVID-19 crisis will be fared due in Q1 and early Q2. And our entire team has worked diligently to go back on track.

We expect our Q2 result to improve and revenue up almost 45% sequentially at the midpoint of our guidance range. We are encouraged by increased data center demand from a diverse set of customers and improving 5G-related activities in China that began in the first quarter and is continuing into Q2.

During the quarter, we had an all-time record of 12 business weeks. This increases the previous record of 11 weeks in Q3 of last year and up from total of 9 weeks in the prior quarter. This design win achievement is all the more notable due to the regularly evolving conditions during the quarter as and the world began to experience the pandemic. Additionally, we are pleased to report that we saw increased demand for our 100G products. In Q1, total revenue for 100G products increased 8% from the same period last year, marking the first quarter of year-over-year growth in 100G sales since Q4 of 2018.

During the first quarter, we prioritized sales and shipment due to the build-up of customer demand after returning from the shutdown in China. This reduced our CATV revenue given the seasonally slow Q1. However, we continue to believe that the CATV segment will improve over the course of the year. And we have already seen improving forecast from some CATV companies. We also finalized a new relationship with ATX Networks during the quarter, which should be a catalyst for growth in the CATV segment later in the year.

With that, I will turn the call over to Stefan to review the details of our Q1 performance and outlook for Q2. Stefan?

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [4]

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Thank you, Thompson. I'd first like to address the COVID-19 crisis and how AOI has proactively responded and adapted to the current environment. Given our presence in China, we had early indications of the possible impact of the virus globally and took action to protect our workforce earlier than many companies in the U.S. We have adopted recommendations from the CDC and safeguards in our factories and offices to maintain safe working conditions for our employees and keep our manufacturing capabilities on track. While we had significant disruptions in operations in our China factory during Q1, we believe we are largely back to normal operating capacity. The coronavirus has led to a significant rise in the number of employees working from home, which we believe has resulted in increased demand from our data center customers as they work to meet the heightened network capacity needs. Our team has been working tirelessly to support our customers through this crisis.

Looking ahead to Q2, we are expecting nearly 45% sequential revenue growth at the midpoint of our guidance range and an improvement in our gross margins to the low- to mid-20% range.

Turning to our quarterly performance. Total revenue for the first quarter was $40.5 million, which was below our guidance range. Our Q1 financial performance was impacted by the shutdown of our China factory during the coronavirus crisis there, unanticipated shipping delays out of China and Taiwan due to the COVID-19 pandemic and higher costs as a result of shifting manufacturing to higher-cost locations in the U.S. and Taiwan. Additionally, certain cost reductions we had planned for Q1 were pushed out due to a pandemic-related work slowdown in China. We had approximately $2.3 million in revenue associated with delayed shipments from China and Taiwan pushed into Q2. Shipping times have improved somewhat but are still longer than normal, and shipping costs out of Asia also remained elevated relative to our prior expectations.

Our data center revenue came in at $33.3 million compared with $38.5 million in Q1 of last year. In the first quarter, 31% of our data center revenue was from our 40G transceiver products and 60% was from our 100G products. As Thompson noted, this makes Q1 2020 the first quarter of year-over-year growth in our 100G business since the end of 2018. Importantly, we saw increased data center demand during Q1 from a diverse set of customers. Overall for the quarter, our top 10 customers represented 84.8% of revenue, which is down from 92.1% in Q1 of last year and also a decrease sequentially from 87.5% last quarter. We are pleased to see that our efforts in diversifying our customer base continue to show tangible results in terms of reduced customer concentration.

Turning to our cable television product segment. Revenue from CATV products was $4.2 million compared to $12 million in Q1 of last year primarily driven by continued weakness among MSOs, particularly in North America. However, our production capacity for CATV products was also negatively impacted by the coronavirus since the majority of our CATV production occurs in China. We expect CATV to be stronger in the second half of the year than the first half as several MSOs are in the process of contemplating or making plans to begin upgrades later this year. We believe that AOI remains well positioned as these new technologies roll out, given our strong product portfolio in this segment. Our recent announcement of the collaboration with ATX Networks is also expected to bolster our sales in this segment as ATX is working with its MSO customers to qualify our 1.2-gigahertz amplifier products as a replacement for legacy 1-gigahertz products.

Revenue from our telecom products was $2.6 million compared to $1.7 million in Q1 of last year primarily driven by increased sales of newer products, such as those designed for 5G network deployments. Specifically, during the first quarter, we saw increased 5G demand in China as carriers there recover from the virus lockdown and continue to upgrade their mobile networks. For the quarter, 82% of our revenue was from data center products, 10% from CATV products with the remaining 8% from FTTH, telecom and other.

In the first quarter, we had 2 10% or greater customers, both in the data center market, that contributed 43% and 18% of total revenue, respectively. In Q1, we generated a gross margin of 19.5% compared to 25.5% in Q1 of the prior year. Gross margin was below our guidance range of 23% to 25% due to increased expenses during the quarter associated with the coronavirus. In addition, as I mentioned earlier, planned cost reductions for Q1 were pushed out due to work disruptions in China related to the shutdown there. We will be rolling these cost reductions out over the next several quarters, and we expect to see incremental improvement in gross margin as a result.

Total operating expenses in the first quarter were $19.4 million or 48% of revenue compared with $20.3 million or 38.4% of revenue in the same quarter of last year. Operating expenses declined from last year due mainly to tighter control of R&D and G&A expenses. R&D in China was also reduced during the shutdown there as consumption of R&D supplies and parts was reduced when activity there ceased.

Operating loss in the first quarter was $11.5 million compared to an operating loss of $6.8 million in Q1 of last year. GAAP net loss for Q1 was $16.8 million or a loss of $0.83 per basic share compared with GAAP net loss of $10.5 million or $0.53 per basic share in Q1 of last year. On a non-GAAP basis, net loss after tax for Q1 was $8.8 million or a loss of $0.44 per basic share, which was below our guidance range of a loss of $6.8 million to $8.3 million or a loss of $0.34 to $0.41 per basic share, and compares to a net loss of $5.4 million or a loss of $0.27 per basic share in Q1 of last year. The basic shares outstanding used for computing the net loss in Q1 were $20.2 million.

Turning now to the balance sheet. We ended the first quarter with $62.5 million in total cash, cash equivalents, short-term investments and restricted cash. This compares with $67 million at the end of 2019 and reflects $8.2 million in cash used for operations. In addition to the cash on hand, we had $28.8 million in unused borrowing capacity at the end of Q1.

As of March 31, we had $87.1 million in inventory compared to $85 million in Q4. The increase in inventory was mainly driven by finished goods that were not received in the quarter, along with some increase in work in process as production ramped up after the China shutdown. We made a total of $2.8 million in capital investments in the quarter, including $1.8 million in production equipment and machinery and $0.7 million on construction and building improvements. Most of these expenditures were committed to prior to the COVID crisis. And in light of the uncertainties surrounding the pandemic, we are still evaluating our level of CapEx for the year.

Moving now to our Q2 outlook. We expect Q2 revenue to be between $55 million and $60 million and non-GAAP gross margin to be in the range of 23% to 25%. Non-GAAP net loss is expected to be in the range of $4.1 million to $5.7 million and non-GAAP loss per basic share between $0.20 and $0.28, using a weighted average basic share count of approximately 20.4 million shares.

With that, I will turn it back over to the operator for the Q&A session. Operator?

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Questions and Answers

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Operator [1]

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(Operator Instructions) Our first question today will come from Simon Leopold of Raymond James.

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Simon Matthew Leopold, Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst [2]

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So first, I wanted to see if we could talk a little bit about the big picture data center trends. Obviously, we've all sort of heard all the headlines about traffic growth, and I understand you're not necessarily going to be able to guide for the full year. But just maybe if you could update us on your thinking about how to trend this particular vertical longer term and beyond just the second quarter, maybe some of the puts and takes you're seeing.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [3]

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Sure, Simon. Well, as we noted in our prepared remarks, I think, given all the uncertainties at this time surrounding the virus and the progression and what have you, it's really difficult to put a precise -- any kind of precise guide on that. I do think, in general, we're hearing from our customers that their networks are under pressure from the remote work and what have you. And that they need, in many cases, to address capacity constraints on their networks. And I would expect that, that will result in some incremental improvement to the business. But again, we guide 1 quarter out, and especially in times of uncertainty like this, it's really difficult to give you a whole lot more than that. I would say directionally, it's somewhat better than we might have expected.

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Simon Matthew Leopold, Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst [4]

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So maybe one of the things that we imagine is occurring in the crisis is that new technology maybe gets pushed out in time. I'm wondering if that's the case for 400-gig technology for intra data center and if you view that as a good thing by extending the life of your 40- and 100-gig products or a bad thing in that it keeps you from enjoying benefits of a new product cycle.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [5]

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Well, it's a little -- again, it's a little hard to say exactly how that's going to play out, too. I do think that we have -- a number of our customers have engineers or qualification labs that are not operating or operating at less efficiency than they would have normally. In other words, engineers are working from home, and they may not be able to have access to their test equipment and what have you. So I think at least in the short term, we expect some of those qualifications to be pushed out. Although I would emphasize again that we actually had an all-time high of design wins in the first quarter despite the virus.

But nevertheless, for some of the 400G stuff, in particular, we are seeing customers that are saying, look, we're going to have to delay a little bit the final qualification efforts that were previously ongoing. Whether that results in a delay in the ramp-up or the deployments, it's not clear at this point. I think that they're -- if anything, they're more motivated now to try to get these newer technologies in. I think they will add capacity and they'll certainly improve operating expenses and things like that for the customers in many cases. So I think they're -- they want to get these technologies in. Their employees are limited in their ability to do what they need to do to be able to start these technologies. And it's really going to depend on how fast recovery happens as to whether they'll be able to -- when things do normalize, whether they'll be able to get the qualifications done and get all that lined up in time to ramp up on schedule or whether it might be delayed a little bit.

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Simon Matthew Leopold, Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst [6]

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And maybe just quickly, gross margin, can you bridge the -- would you have met your guidance if it wasn't -- on the gross margin if it wasn't for the shipping issues you mentioned?

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [7]

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So it wasn't only related to the shipping issues. As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, the -- a lot of the cost reduction efforts that we intended to do during the quarter were not able to be completed during the quarter because of the shutdown in China. So we had an additional 3-week shutdown, almost 3-week shutdown there. And so we weren't able to finish a lot of the cost reduction work that we intended to do. So that will roll out over the next couple of quarters. So it wasn't only related to the shipping. It was also related to the delay in completing the cost reduction efforts.

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Simon Matthew Leopold, Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst [8]

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And just one last one, if I might. I did notice you filed an 8-K in April, taking roughly $6 million of the PPP money. Just want to see if you can give us some context. Was this essentially being opportunistic? Or is there some reason we should think there's need for taking out additional debt? And do you expect you have to repay this? Or should we consider this a grant? How to think about that in the context of the business?

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [9]

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Yes. So the PPP loan is something that's really very much in flux at this point. I think I'm going to avoid commenting specifically on that at this point just because the guidance and things like that seems to change on an almost daily basis. So in early April, when we applied for the loan, there was certainly a great deal of uncertainty around our operations and really the global economy. Since then, we continue to evaluate the guidance as it comes out, and we'll continue to monitor that as we go forward.

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Operator [10]

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(Operator Instructions) Our next question will come from Samik Chatterjee of JPMorgan.

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Bharat Daryani, JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Analyst [11]

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This is Bharat on for Samik. So the first question I had was the data center segment. I mean, can you highlight what are the spending trends there by especially the 3 large customers that you have? I noticed that you still have 2 10% customers there and the third customer has been spending at a reduced level. So any incremental visibility you have there? Are you still expecting a second half pickup from that customer? That would be the first question.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [12]

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So we don't comment on individual customer trends. As I mentioned, I think there's a lot of positive trends in the data center right now. We discussed the fact that this was the first quarter of year-over-year revenue growth in 100-gig since the end of 2018, which was very early in the 20 -- in the 100-gig cycle. We also discussed that the increase in business that we're seeing in 100-gig is actually very broad-based. It's not only just from a couple of customers but from a number of different customers and the design win activity that we had this quarter also continues to bear that out. So again, it's not just about 1 or 2 customers. It's about a much more broad increase in business in the data center, in general, and in 100-gig, in particular. And as we talked about with Simon, some of the dynamics around finishing qualifications on 400G and when that starts to ramp is a little difficult to say at this point.

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Bharat Daryani, JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Analyst [13]

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Got it. And then just one more question on the design wins. I mean, 2019, I think you highlighted 30-plus design wins, and you also said that 1Q this year was very strong in terms of design wins. So just any wins in particular that you could highlight? I mean, any segments that you see could have a potential uptick in the second half, be it telecom, be it cable, where you are seeing momentum building? Anything in particular that you could highlight there?

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [14]

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Sure. Well, I mean, I can give a little bit of extra color perhaps on that. First of all, the design wins that we had, out of the 12 design wins, 5 of those were with new customers. So we had 5 new customers among that list of design wins in the quarter. One of those new customers was a data center customer that we hadn't previously sold to before and 2 of them are related to 5G deployments in China. So in addition to data center strength, we're also starting to see early signs of demand in China around 5G network builds. I think as things in China started to normalize after the coronavirus shutdown there, we started to see increased activity from customers trying to finish qualifications and get orders on the books related to 5G. So I think that's another notable area of strength among the new customer base.

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Operator [15]

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Our next question is from Joe Flynn of Craig-Hallum.

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Joseph Newton Flynn, Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division - Research Analyst [16]

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Just a quick question on the guidance. I was wondering if you could either quantitatively or qualitatively give a sense of how much data center is the driver of that 45% Q-over-Q growth? And within data center, anything you could give us rather than 100-gig -- the split between 100-gig and 40-gig would be appreciated.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [17]

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Okay. So as far as how much of the growth is related to data center, I mean, we do expect cable TV to be stronger in the second half as we noted, but most of the growth between Q1 and Q2 is going to come from the data center, just by virtue of the fact that cable TV is a relatively much smaller amount of revenue. So I would expect it to come -- the growth to come mostly in terms of data center growth, if you're looking at the sequential growth rate. As far as the specifics around the 100G versus 40G products, it was -- I'm looking for the number here, it was about 60% from 100G products and 31% from 40G products. So at this point, 100-gig is clearly driving the bus, so to speak, in terms of data center revenue. 40-gig, we expect to continue to see 40-gig business and maybe business that's close to where we are today. But most of the growth, I think, is expected to come from 100-gig or even 400-gig perhaps towards the end of the year depending on...

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Chih-Hsiang Lin, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - Founder, Chairman of the Board, President & CEO [18]

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We don't compare with the Q2 the growth in the 5G.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [19]

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And from 5G as well, of course. Yes.

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Joseph Newton Flynn, Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division - Research Analyst [20]

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Okay. Great. And then just piggybacking off the design win question. I was wondering if you have any update just specifically on 400-gig and, I guess, a customer pipeline or along those lines, you're expecting, I guess, by the end of this year.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [21]

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Yes. We did not have a 400-gig design win during the quarter. We did have one design win on a 200-gig product, however.

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Operator [22]

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Our next question today will come from Liz Pate of Cowen and Company.

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Elizabeth Mary Pate, Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division - Research Associate [23]

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Most of my questions have been answered, but I may have missed it. Can you remind me what the top 10 customers were as a percentage of the revenue in the quarter? And how that compared with last quarter and last year?

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [24]

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Sure. So this quarter, top 10 customers were 84.8% of revenue. In the same quarter in the prior year, it was 92.1%. And in the prior quarter, so that would be Q4 2019, it was 87.5%. So again, Q1 last year, 92%; last quarter, 87.5%; and this quarter, 84.8%.

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Elizabeth Mary Pate, Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division - Research Associate [25]

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So showing some good diversification going on. And I think you said of the 12 new customers, 5 were new to you, 2 were related to 5G deployments in China. And I missed what you said before that.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [26]

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Yes. So we had -- just to make sure we're on the same page. We had 12 design wins in the quarter. 5 of those were new customers. So that's 5 -- a total of 5 new customers, 1 design win each. And 1 was the data center customer and 2 were related to 5G business in China.

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Operator [27]

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(Operator Instructions) Our next question is from Dave Kang of B. Riley FBR.

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Unidentified Analyst, [28]

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This is actually Danny, on for Dave. I was wondering if you guys could comment on the crowdedness of the 400G market and any color you can give on that.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [29]

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I'm not sure what you mean by the crowdedness of the 400G market. Can you elaborate on that?

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Unidentified Analyst, [30]

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Just like, I guess, if the time line of the 400G launch is pushed out, what I'm hinting at is, would there be increased competition from competitors?

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [31]

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Well, I can't really speculate on that. First of all, as I mentioned in my remarks with Simon, it's not clear that the 400G deployment is going to be pushed out. I think customers are very interested in getting those deployments underway as quickly as they can in many cases. If that were not to happen for whatever reason, I really can't speculate on whether there'll be more competitors or not. I do think that the technology of 400-gig is significantly trickier in terms of design and manufacturing than earlier generations of products. And that generally has an effect of making the competitive landscape smaller rather than bigger. But how that would play out with the pushout specifically is difficult to speculate.

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Unidentified Analyst, [32]

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Got it. That's helpful. And I guess, I was wondering if you guys could comment on the pricing environment in the 400G and 100G markets.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [33]

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So 400G pricing is really not...

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Unidentified Analyst, [34]

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Oh, sorry, did I say -- I meant 40G, not 400. Sorry about that.

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Stefan J. Murry, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - CFO & Chief Strategy Officer [35]

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Oh, 40G and 100G is relatively pretty stable pricing in terms of different products. We have seen some average price declines over the last couple of quarters due to some product mix issues in 100-gig. I mean, more PSM and less CWDM as we've talked about in earlier calls. But as far as price on individual products, it's been fairly stable.

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Operator [36]

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Ladies and gentlemen, this will conclude our question-and-answer session. And at this time, I'd like to turn the conference back over to Dr. Thompson Lin for any closing remarks.

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Chih-Hsiang Lin, Applied Optoelectronics, Inc. - Founder, Chairman of the Board, President & CEO [37]

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Again, thank you for joining us today. As always, thank you to our investors, customers and employees for your continued to support. And we look forward to virtually seeing many of you at our upcoming investment conference.

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Operator [38]

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And ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect your lines.