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Q3 2017 Agree Realty Corp Earnings Call

FARMINGTON HILLS Oct 25, 2017 (Thomson StreetEvents) -- Edited Transcript of Agree Realty Corp earnings conference call or presentation Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 1:00:00pm GMT

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Corporate Participants

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* Joel N. Agree

Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director

* Kenneth R. Howe

Agree Realty Corporation - Interim CFO

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Conference Call Participants

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* Collin Philip Mings

Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Analyst

* Daniel Paul Donlan

Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc., Research Division - MD of Equity Research

* David Steven Corak

FBR Capital Markets & Co., Research Division - VP and Research Analyst

* George Andrew Hoglund

Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Equity Research Analyst

* Ki Bin Kim

SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc., Research Division - MD

* Nicholas Gregory Joseph

Citigroup Inc, Research Division - VP and Senior Analyst

* Robert Chapman Stevenson

Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division - MD, Head of Real Estate Research & Senior Research Analyst

* Todd Jakobsen Stender

Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division - Director & Senior Analyst

* William E. Harman

Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division - Research Associate

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Presentation

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Operator [1]

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Good morning, and welcome to the Agree Realty Third Quarter 2017 Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Joey Agree, President and CEO. Please go ahead, Joey.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [2]

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Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Agree Realty's Third Quarter 2017 Earnings Call. Joining me this morning is Ken Howe, our interim Chief Financial Officer.

I am pleased to report another strong quarter as we continue to execute on our operating strategy. During the quarter, we further strengthened our industry-leading portfolio through high-quality investment activity and proactive asset management while also solidifying our leading balance sheet through strategic capital markets transactions.

While our real estate transactional activity has continued to scale, our focus on building our company via people, processes and systems are at its core. We have added several outstanding key members during the past 12 months. This quarter, we are very pleased to have welcomed Phil Carbone to our team as Director of Transactions. Phil has over 15 years of extensive experience in real estate transactions, including acquisitions and dispositions, leasing, financing and sale-leasebacks. Phil has made an immediate impact to facilitating our transactional activity, and we are lucky to have him on board here at Agree.

With 32 team members today, we've more than doubled the size of our teams since 2015. We've added key personnel in accounting, construction development and diligence. Notably, we've increased the size of our acquisition team from 2 people in 2015 to 7 team members today. While building our team to scale, we've also managed to reduce our G&A as a percentage of total revenues by roughly 240 basis points since the beginning of 2015 and approximately 600 basis points in the past 5 years.

Likewise, our focus on systems improvements have begun to bear fruit. During this past year, we have automated accounts payable, implemented a CRM system, enhanced our project management capabilities and installed a comprehensive data warehouse and planning analytics software. We have also worked to streamline and improve processes. Our operational team has been undergoing Lean training, working to eliminate waste and optimize all areas of our business. Similarly, we have launched a professional development program to build, coach and mentor our growing management team.

While these initiatives don't directly show up in our results, they have positioned our company to best manage its current as well as anticipated future growth.

Moving on to our standard update. In the third quarter, we invested $69 million in 19 high-quality retail net lease properties via our 3 external growth platforms. Of those investments, 14 properties were sourced through our acquisition platform, resulting in total acquisition volume of approximately $55 million for the quarter. The properties were acquired at a weighted average cap rate of 7.4% and had a weighted average remaining lease term of 11.2 years.

Of note, 44% of rent acquired during the quarter, comes from ground leased properties, where the company owns the fee simple interest in the real estate and the tenant has paid for and constructed their building and/or improvements. The acquired properties are located across 12 states and are leased to 12 industry-leading tenants. These tenants operate in 9 sectors, including off-price retail, convenience stores, auto parts, tire and auto service, health and fitness and home improvement. The properties acquired during the quarter derived 64% of annualized base rent from investment-grade tenants and include Lowe's, T.J. Maxx, Burlington Coat Factory, O'Reilly Auto Parts and AutoZone.

During the first 9 months of the year, we have invested in 70 properties in 29 states, representing record investment volume of $279 million. Of the $279 million invested year-to-date, we sourced a record $239 million through our acquisition platform. The 61 properties acquired through the first 3 quarters are leased to 45 sector-leading retail tenants operating in more than 20 sectors. Over half of the properties that we've acquired year-to-date are leased to investment-grade retail tenants.

Given our record acquisition volumes through the first 9 months of the year and our healthy pipeline, we are increasing our 2017 acquisition guidance to a range of $300 million to $325 million. While able to raise our acquisition guidance for the year, I want to stress that we remain disciplined through our rigorous underwriting standards that emphasize retail real estate fundamentals, including adaptability, retail synergy, visibility, demographic trends, traffic patterns and access. We've combined our bottoms-up analysis of real estate fundamentals with an acute focus on industry-leading retailers in sectors that have compelling omnichannel platform, a value-oriented business model or a service component.

Our company has achieved record investment volume through the first 3 quarters while deploying capital into assets that are of the highest quality. We anticipate this distinct focus on quality to not only remain consistent but become even more stringent. We do not view it as prudent to move up the risk curve in a dynamically changing environment.

Our focus is to serve to strengthen our best-in-class portfolio and increase exposure to leading e-commerce resistant and omnichannel retailers. Our current investment pipeline consist of a number of such high-quality opportunities that are driven by our holistic approach to retail net lease real estate investment. We are excited about and look forward to updating you on these opportunities as they come to fruition.

Turning to our development in Partner Capital Solutions platforms. We are pleased to announce that construction commenced on 2 new projects during quarter. The company's first project with leading Burger King franchisee, TOMS King, is underway in North Ridgeville, Ohio. The project, which is subject to a new 20-year net lease, is on schedule for our first quarter 2018 delivery. Total project costs are anticipated to be approximately $2 million.

Construction activity has also commenced in our third Camping World project in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Anticipated total project costs are approximately $9.6 million. The project is subject to a new 20-year net lease, and we anticipate rent to commence in full by the end of the second quarter of 2018.

During the quarter, construction continued on our 3 previously announced development in Partner Capital Solutions projects. The company's first project with Art Van Furniture located on Ford Road in one of the state's dominant retail trade areas in Canton, Michigan is progressing on schedule. We anticipate full rent to commence when the store opens in the first quarter of next year.

Construction is also ongoing in our 2 Mister Car Wash projects located in Urbandale, Iowa and Bernalillo, New Mexico. The projects, which represents the company's first 2 ground-up developments with Mister Car Wash, are subject to 2 new 20-year net leases. We anticipate construction completion and rent commencement on both projects by the end of this year.

During the quarter, Orchard Supply Hardware in Boynton Beach, Florida celebrated its grand opening and commenced paying rent. Orchard Supply Hardware previously executed a 15-year net lease that is guaranteed by Lowe's Companies, which carries an A- credit rating from S&P. Along with Sunnyvale, California, this is the second Orchard Supply Hardware in our portfolio.

Year-to-date, we have 9 development or PCS projects completed during or under construction that represent more than $57 million of total committed capital. We are pleased with our performance through the first 9 months of the year and remain excited about the opportunities in our pipeline. As demonstrated with Wawa, Mister Car Wash, Burger King, Camping World and other leading retailers, our ability to be a full-service net lease real estate solution makes us a compelling partner for growing retailers.

While we had a record investment year across our 3 external growth platforms, we've also looked to strengthen and diversify our portfolio through disposition activity. These efforts continued in the third quarter as we sold 4 properties for gross proceeds of approximately $7.8 million. Through the first 9 months of the year, we have sold 7 properties for total gross proceeds of approximately $30.4 million. These sales have resulted in aggregated net gain of more than $10 million.

As a result of our disposition activities and the continued growth of our portfolio, our Walgreens exposure has been reduced to 8.5% at quarter end, well below our stated goal of sub-10% by year-end. In just the past year, we've decreased our Walgreens exposure by roughly 420 basis points, down from 12.7% at the end of the third quarter of 2016. We are committed to bringing our concentration below 5% by year-end 2018.

Overall, pharmacy exposure fell to 13.2% at quarter end, down from 17.5% or roughly a full 430 basis point reduction year-over-year. Moving forward, we will continue to look for opportunities to advantageously dispose of assets and redeploy capital as well as divest of lower-tier assets that aren't representative of our high-quality portfolio.

In addition to dispositions, our asset management team has been proactively addressing upcoming lease maturities. During the quarter, we executed new leases, extensions or options at approximately 48,000 square feet of gross leasable area. Year-to-date, we've completed renewals or extensions on 25 pending lease maturities, including 5 leases that were set to expire in 2018, representing approximately 480,000 square feet of gross leasable space. We have no remaining lease maturities in 2017, and our 2018 maturities currently represent just 1.3% of annualized base rent.

As of September 30, our growing retail portfolio consisted of 425 properties in 43 states. Our tenants are comprised primarily of industry-leading retailers operating in more than 28 distinct retail sectors. With 45% of annualized base rents coming from tenants with an investment-grade credit rating, the portfolio remains effectively fully occupied at 99.7% and has a weighted average remaining lease term of 10.5 years.

Today, our ground lease portfolio represents 8.2% of our portfolio's annualized base rents. 85% of these ground leases are with leading retailers that have investment-grade credit rating. The weighted average remaining lease term of our ground lease portfolio is greater than 12 years and continues to present an extremely stable, attractive risk-adjusted return for our shareholders.

Thank you for your patience. And with that, I'll now turn it over to Ken to discuss our financial results for the third quarter. Ken?

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Kenneth R. Howe, Agree Realty Corporation - Interim CFO [3]

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Thanks, Joey. Good morning, everyone. As a reminder, please note that during this call, we will make certain statements that may be considered forward-looking under federal securities law. Our actual results may differ significantly from the matters discussed in any forward-looking statements. In addition, we discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including funds from operations or FFO and adjusted funds from operations or AFFO. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release.

As announced in yesterday's press release, total rental revenue, including percentage rents, for the third quarter of 2017 was $27.3 million, an increase of 22.6% over the third quarter of 2016. Year-to-date, total rental revenue has increased 26% over the comparable period in 2016 to $76.7 million.

General and administrative expenses were approximately 8.2% of total revenue, representing a decrease of roughly 20 basis points year-over-year as compared to 8.4% of total revenue in the third quarter of 2016. We anticipate that G&A as a percentage of total revenue will be around 8.5% for the full year.

Funds from operations for the third quarter was $20 million, representing an increase of 23.2% over the comparable period of 2016. On a per share basis, FFO increased to $0.69 per share, a 1.6% increase as compared to the third quarter of 2016. Funds from operations for the first 9 months of 2017 was $55 million, representing an increase of 29% over the comparable period of 2016. On a per share basis, FFO increased to $2 per share, a 5.7% increase compared to the first 9 months of last year.

Adjusted funds from operations for the third quarter was $19.9 million, representing an increase of 26.2% over the comparable period of 2016. On a per share basis, AFFO increased to $0.69 per share, a 4.1% increase as compared to the third quarter of last year. Adjusted funds from operations for the first 9 months of 2017 was $54.8 million, representing an increase of 29.8% over the comparable period of 2016. On a per share basis, AFFO increased to $2 per share, a 6.4% increase as compared to the first 9 months of 2016.

Turning to our capital markets activities. We issued 589,093 shares of common stock through our at-the-market equity program during the quarter, raising gross proceeds of approximately $29.2 million. These proceeds were used to efficiently match fund our investment activities.

On September 20, we completed a private placement of $100 million principal amount of senior unsecured notes. The notes bear interest at a fixed rate of 4.19% and have a 12-year term, maturing on September 20, 2029. The all-in pricing represented 165 basis points above the 12-year interpolated U.S. Treasury curve at the time of pricing.

In addition to the private placement, we also entered into 2 separate uncommitted $100 million private placement shelf agreements during the quarter. The shelf agreements will allow us to issue additional senior unsecured notes to the investors at terms to be agreed upon at the time of any issuance. At quarter end, no notes have been issued under the shelf agreement. Our capital market activities are emblematic of our conservative approach to opportunistically accessing attractively priced capital and managing our balance sheet for continued growth.

As of September 30, 2017, total debt to enterprise value was approximately 25.2% and our fixed charge coverage ratio, which includes principal amortization, was a healthy 4.1x. Furthermore, net debt to recurring EBITDA was approximately 4.7x, below the low end of our stated leverage range of 5 to 6x. The company paid a dividend of $0.55 per share on October 13 to stockholders of record on September 29, 2017. The quarterly dividend represents a 5.2% increase over the $0.48 per share quarterly dividend declared in the third quarter of 2016. The company had paid 94 consecutive cash dividends since its IPO in 1994.

Our quarterly payout ratios for the third quarter of 2017 were 73% of FFO and 74% of AFFO. Both payout ratios are at the low end of the company's target ranges and reflect a very well-covered dividend.

With that, I'd like to turn the call back over to Joey.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [4]

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Thank you, Ken. Our balance sheet is in a fantastic position to continue to execute our operating strategy. At this time, we'll open it up for questions.

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Questions and Answers

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Operator [1]

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(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Collin Mings of Raymond James.

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Collin Philip Mings, Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Analyst [2]

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To start, Joey, can you just update us on the CFO search and if you expect to have someone in place on a permanent basis by year-end?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [3]

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Yes, sure. Look, it's been a great process for us. Dan Ravid, our Chief Administrative Officer, has been really running it and doing a fantastic job. We've interviewed, vetted and scored over 30 candidates, a lot of talented people with frankly, a really diverse set of backgrounds. I tell you, at the same time, this has been really -- it's almost been a blessing in disguise for us in the sense that it's given us an opportunity to see where any potential holes were, but frankly, to showcase our bench strength and the increased size of our team and the growth of individuals here. And I think that's been the most interesting piece for me personally over the past couple of months, watching our team flourish and not skip a beat. As you can see in the capital markets side, we didn't a beat with the debt private placement as well as the ATM activity during the quarter. And with all that said, we think we've got a final list of candidates. We're going to bring this process to a head fairly shortly. And we're confident we're going to find the right person that's a cultural fit for this team and can professionally would be the right partner to help us take us to the next level. And the last thing, I would be remiss if I didn't thank Ken for stepping in. He's been here since the start of this company and continues to be an important part. So thank you again, Ken.

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Collin Philip Mings, Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Analyst [4]

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Okay. And then switching gears as far as the increase to acquisition guidance. Can you just maybe expand a little bit more on the pipeline here and going into 4Q? Just -- it appears as if even at the low end of the range, there will be a modest acceleration in activity relative to 3Q, recognize there could be just some seasonality associated with that, but just talk a little bit more about that pipeline. And in particular, as far as the potential ground lease opportunity, again, as you touched on your prepared remarks, picked up a few of those during the quarter. So just more color on the pipeline would be helpful.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [5]

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Yes. So I'll start with the last point about the ground lease. As you can see, our ground lease exposure ticked up during the quarter. We acquired some great assets, the Lowe's, the SuperAmerica, a CVS paying approximately $110,000 a year, $10 a foot on a ground lease. If you look at the risk adjusted returns there plus our cost of capital, these are really great investments with -- and creates a very unique portfolio at over 8% of our portfolio currently being ground leased. They're not much better in terms of net lease in terms of safety, security and residuals when you don't pay for the building and improvements. Our pipeline has a diverse and unique set of opportunities, one-off opportunities, both small and large as well as some portfolios as well. And so our team here, which I stated in my prepared remarks, at 7 people and growing, continues to uncover unique opportunities of that we're confident we're going to execute on in the fourth quarter. And again, our focus is going to continue to be on quality. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we don't see this as an opportune time to move up the risk curve. We're looking for best-in-class operators in those sectors, which we are wholly comfortable. In a dynamically changing environment, we're focused on top-tier assets and top-tier real estate.

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Operator [6]

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Our next question comes from Nick Joseph of Citigroup.

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Nicholas Gregory Joseph, Citigroup Inc, Research Division - VP and Senior Analyst [7]

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Joey, when you look across the retail sectors you have exposure to, which do you think have the most risk from disruption? And then how do you think about preemptively positioning the portfolio for any potential changes?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [8]

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Yes. It's a great question. We -- I tell you, it's really the inverse of how we think of retail sectors that we're going to target. And so if there are -- if a business model selling hard or soft goods is easily replicable online, doesn't present that value proposition, doesn't provide for an experience for the customer that is compelling enough or convenient enough for them to enter into a brick-and-mortar retail outlet, then that is not typically something that we are overly attracted to. And in the converse, it's not something we're going to continue to acquire and we'll look to potentially dispose of. General merchants, department stores, those types of operations to us, which don't have a differentiated strategy and frankly, can't differentiate themselves in an omnichannel world, are among the sectors that we're not overly attracted to. At the same time, office supplies is a sector, obviously, books, all those fairly obvious sectors where you see the disruption coming from the seamless integration online.

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Nicholas Gregory Joseph, Citigroup Inc, Research Division - VP and Senior Analyst [9]

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How about your existing sectors, pharmacy or grocery stores, how do you think about those in the changing landscape?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [10]

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Yes. I'll use it to touch on the Amazon rumors into pharmacy. First, while I hate to touch on those rumors, I know that they're top of mind for everybody and obviously topical in terms of the newspapers and the news. Every week, it seems to be something new. That said, relative to pharmacy, I'll talk a couple of important points. One, pharmacy is -- inherently represent a last-mile solution for most people. Pharmacies are located 1 mile to 2 miles from everybody's homes. They have ease of access, immediate parking adjacent to the building and drive-through windows. I just don't believe that most people in this country need everything delivered to their home, sitting on their front porch. Traversing a mall is -- or a large-format store is one thing. Stopping at a pharmacy or convenience store on your way home in your natural traffic pattern is nothing. So it takes a long time to frankly dismember, unwrap and then break down a box. I think it takes longer frankly then to pop into your local Walgreens or CVS at times. Second, I think, prescriptions have a time element to receive. I think customers typically need prescriptions fairly quickly. The front end of the stores, well, the majority of the profitability or EBITDA is tied to convenience items, run in, grab, get your toothpaste, top in, get your greeting card and go. And then lastly, while we remain believers in the pharmacy space, I will tell all investors just to look at what we've accomplished to their diversification efforts and our portfolio. Pharmacy overall has been reduced from 30% of ABR to 13.2% in less than 3 years. Walgreens, obviously, our largest tenant, has been down -- has taken down to 8.5% from 22% in less than 3 years. So we're very comfortable with our exposures. We're committed to taking Walgreens down to sub-5% not because we don't believe in the tenant or the business, but we think it's the right thing to do to divest and redeploy on an accretive basis there, and you'll continue to see that trajectory. And we have a Walgreens under contract to sell currently we anticipate closing into Q4.

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Nicholas Gregory Joseph, Citigroup Inc, Research Division - VP and Senior Analyst [11]

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One just on the balance sheet. You've talked before about net debt to recurring EBITDA. I think the target range has been 5 to 6x. But this year, you've been sub-5 throughout the year. So just curious if your thoughts have changed on target leverage or if it's more just a reflection of the current attractive equity cost to capital.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [12]

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Well, I tell you, our thoughts haven't changed. I think, obviously, we reported net debt to recurring EBITDA at quarter end. In Q2 obviously, we were well north of 5x before we accessed the equity markets. This quarter, we opportunistically accessed the ATM markets in addition to the $100 million debt private placement to really match fund on an efficient basis and a really effective basis our pipeline across all 3 platforms. And given our increased investment guidance, we think, on a risk-adjusted basis, it made sense for us to opportunistically access that capital source and use that tool.

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Operator [13]

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Our next question comes from R.J. Milligan of Baird.

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William E. Harman, Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division - Research Associate [14]

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This is Will Harman on for R.J. Just was wondering if you could talk about what has changed throughout the course of this year that's prompted you to be more aggressive with your external growth in 2017.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [15]

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Well, I would tell you that we're opportunists at our core. We look at real estate transactions from that bottoms-up approach that I talked about with that top-down lens. And we will continue to transact on opportunities that we think fits qualitatively and quantitatively. And the growing team here continues to uncover fantastic opportunities across all 3 platforms. Our balance sheet and our liquidity, we're in a position to execute on them and we're going to continue to do so. Obviously, we raised the acquisition guidance from -- to $300 million to $325 million. That's dependent 100% on the opportunities that our team here uncovers. It's not dependent upon us saying, "We want to deploy more capital." It's a granular approach. We're strategic, we're sharpshooters. We look at billions of dollars, we transact on millions of dollars. And so we'll continue to execute on those transactions which frankly fit, and it changes weekly. The investment committee here meets 2x a week and we see new opportunities therein.

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William E. Harman, Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division - Research Associate [16]

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And then with your updated guidance, it implies about $70 million in acquisitions to close in Q4 to hit your midpoint. Just curious if any of that is currently under contract and if these are one-off deals. Or are you looking at a larger portfolio of deal that you may close there in Q4?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [17]

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So it's -- no large portfolios in there. It's fair to assume they're under binding agreement and/or we have already closed on those during the quarter. And there are opportunities that are frankly representative -- some fairly unique opportunities in terms of demographic underlying real estate. And then with a continued emphasis on the sectors that we find favorable in this environment, tire auto service, home improvement, convenience stores, off-price retail, the sectors -- leaders within those sectors that are going to continue to create what we think is the highest quality net lease portfolio in the country.

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William E. Harman, Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division - Research Associate [18]

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And then just last question, Four Corners recently completed a deal with Washington Prime, acquiring a portfolio of these restaurant properties. Did you look at the deal, and are there any of the other mall REITs looking to monetize some of their out-parceled properties?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [19]

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No, and my hats off to Bill. Bill is a friend of mine, and I think he did a great job at Four Corners. Our focus really isn't on the restaurant space. Our focus here is really on those brick-and-mortar retailers in some of the sectors that I named. While we have restaurant exposure and we continue to create value, most recently with this Tom's King development that we announced, our focus really is outside of the restaurant space, unless we find something value-add through one of the 3 external growth platforms. In terms of working with REITs, both mall REITs, shopping center REITs at the time, given that lease REITs, we work with them on a fairly frequent basis. We've transacted with a number of mall REITs and shopping centers REITs over the past 12, 18 months. And we continue to look at opportunities from our peers in the retail space.

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Operator [20]

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Our next question comes from David Corak of FBR.

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David Steven Corak, FBR Capital Markets & Co., Research Division - VP and Research Analyst [21]

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So it looks like a higher percentage of your acquisitions this quarter had rated tenants, so a nice pickup there. But just curious, based on your comments in the past and on the call today, just focusing on the ground-up underwriting, real estate and sector-leading retailers, just less of an exact focus on IG tenants in general. Has anything changed there in the past 90 days? Are you more inclined to pay up for rated credit? Are there deals out there that are just more attractive? Or are we just kind of reading into that too much? Any color there would be helpful.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [22]

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No change there. There's a whole host of tenants out there that are unrated, some even sub-investment-grade that we are -- that are fantastic operators. You'll see, we acquired a Burlington Coat factory during the quarter. It's really just a focus on quality. Inclusive of the ground lease assets that we acquired, I would tell you that the investment-grade exposure is circumstantial there. Obviously, the portfolio ticked up north of 45% investment grade during the quarter. The ground lease opportunities were fairly unique. Again, our focus is discreet. It is highly targeted. We don't think it's a good time and it's frankly not in our D&A to go up the risk curve. Given our cost of capital and our ability to source unique assets, we're confident we're going to continue to uncover some fantastic opportunities.

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David Steven Corak, FBR Capital Markets & Co., Research Division - VP and Research Analyst [23]

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Okay, great. And then kind of a 2-part question here. Can you talk a little bit about the cap rate environment? It looks like there were some compression in C stores and autos specifically, but just wondering what you're seeing in the market? And then can you give us a sense to what the pricing looks like on these kind of high-quality ground lease assets versus kind of some of the other things you acquired this quarter?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [24]

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Yes. Generally, we haven't seen movement in cap rates overall. But you're right and we've talked about it. We've seen sectoral movement, obviously, the tire stores, which you mentioned, the home improvement stores. In terms of our acquisitions specifically, I wouldn't read through to the cap rates. They're a small sample set. Oftentimes, there are additional elements to those transactions which we don't publicly disclose. We're working with a tenant, we're doing something unique to the lease. And so it's probably not a great sample set in terms of the overall cap rate environment, which is fairly stable. There are sectors where we've seen some compression. There are sectors where we've seen some cap rate expansion. Most of that is headline related or the ability for private purchasers to access that.

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Operator [25]

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Our next question comes from Rob Stevenson of Janney.

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Robert Chapman Stevenson, Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division - MD, Head of Real Estate Research & Senior Research Analyst [26]

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Joey, just one for me. I mean, is it -- You talked before about the realistic threat from an Amazon. But given the headline, does it have any impact on near-term cap rates, either achievable on a disposition? Or does it weaken them enough that a well-located asset might wind up being discounted enough that you'd want to add to your portfolio selectively here as people sort of worry about this and the market more from a top line standpoint than from an optional operation standpoint?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [27]

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Is your question, Rob, specific to pharmacy or any of the recent Amazon rumors or headlines?

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Robert Chapman Stevenson, Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division - MD, Head of Real Estate Research & Senior Research Analyst [28]

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Well, mostly pharmacy. I mean, is it -- I mean, obviously -- I mean, some high net worth individuals that's going to -- that might buy a Walgreens might get -- seemingly might get scared off given the recent headline. And so wondering to what extent that has negative connotations for disposition cap rates, but also positive implications that well-located Walgreens could trade 75 or 100 basis points outside where it might have a year ago.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [29]

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Yes. Honestly, I think acute net lease purchasers are frankly conditioned to the Amazon headlines. They come out once or twice a week now of Amazon entering different retail spaces. We haven't seen any movement in cap rates one way or another. It's one thing for Amazon if and when they -- if they do enter the pharmacy space to enter it and disrupt it. It's another thing for them to operationally affect the Walgreens and CVSs of the world. So we haven't seen those rumors trickle down. What we have seen is just generally a continued flight to safety. And frankly, people have gotten in line between the strategy, which we've been expounding upon since 2011 in terms of e-commerce. And so like I mentioned previously, the health and fitness, tire and auto service, home improvement, convenience stores, off-price retail, auto parts, those sectors were perceived. Safety is there from the overall Internet threat. We've seen, typically driven by brokers, some cap rate compression. But in terms of Amazon potentially entering the pharmacy space, we don't see -- we haven't seen anything there.

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Operator [30]

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Our next question comes from Stan Donlan (sic) [Dan Donlan] of Ladenburg Thalmann.

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Daniel Paul Donlan, Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc., Research Division - MD of Equity Research [31]

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Joey, just wanted to talk a little bit about the Camping World development in Grand Rapids. Is that project going to have any type of Gander Outdoor component to it? I know that they've kind of talked about potentially incorporating that into their new stores. So just kind of curious how that looks because it looks like the development costs are a little bit higher than the one, I think, you're building in -- or build in either Kentucky or Tennessee?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [32]

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So this is -- well, this was an opportunity again that's pretty close to our backyard in Grand Rapids. So the 60,000-foot existing dealership and retail store -- previously, Camping World operated the retail store, only not the dealership. We'll be adding about 20,000 square feet to the project overall. So it will end up 80,000 square feet. This is a 20-acre site, immediately off of the freeway. It's a great location at the interchange, outpositioning a number of competitors. So there's -- it is different from the Georgetown opportunity, which was a ground-up development. This is a PCS project for us, existing dealership, expansion, renovation, Camping World taking over the existing dealer while it historically operated the retail store.

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Daniel Paul Donlan, Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc., Research Division - MD of Equity Research [33]

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Okay. Is there any Gander Outdoor component to it?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [34]

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No. Yes -- no, no Gander Outdoor component to this. This will be a traditional Camping World once the -- and they've already established they're taking over the retail outlet there.

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Daniel Paul Donlan, Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc., Research Division - MD of Equity Research [35]

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Okay. And then the Camping World's CEO has talked about potentially building new Gander Outdoors. Is that something that they have talked to you about? Is that something that you're interested in doing? Just kind of curious of your desire there.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [36]

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Yes. Look, we think very highly of the Camping World management team. Marcus and Brent and team there have done obviously a great job. They're all over the championship series if you're watching baseball. We talked about a number of differentiated the opportunities, inclusive of development, nothing near term on the horizon there. Again, our focus is it typically isn't on new concepts, just unestablished operators and established brands and really those leading operators in the sectors that we're targeting.

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Daniel Paul Donlan, Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc., Research Division - MD of Equity Research [37]

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Okay. And then kind of (inaudible) to your next question just given kind of -- about leading operators. I know you touched a little bit on it in another question. But I'm just curious of your thought process behind maybe a Best Buy or even a Barnes & Noble. I know that these are sectors that are not exactly e-commerce resistant. But you only have really one major player now in those verticals. So I'm curious if that's something that may interest you, in Best Buys, Office -- all-time highs from a stock price perspective. So is there any thought process there that has (inaudible) really picked over the competition, in particular market, that maybe then you start to look at, the only brick–and–mortar guy left?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [38]

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No, it's -- look, it's a great question and you're 100% right. Best Buy is the last man standing and Barnes & Noble outside of some local independence is obviously the last man standing in the books. We don't red line any opportunity. I will tell you, for us, to execute on any such opportunity there, it will typically have to be a value-add component to it. They will be above yield or compelling real estate. And so on a risk-adjusted basis -- and I think you're right, best Buy has been effectively derisked. I think Barnes and Noble has potentially a different place than Best Buy is today. But the management team there -- over there has done a great job and we have a good relationship. But we'll look at any real estate opportunity on a one-off basis. And if we can create -- outsize value and we think risk adjusted, it makes sense or we see something long term in the real estate, we wouldn't hesitate to execute.

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Daniel Paul Donlan, Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc., Research Division - MD of Equity Research [39]

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Okay, that's very helpful. And the maybe just on the Burger King transaction with TOMS King, is this a one-off deal? Or do you think this is -- could potentially be part of a larger series of developments with that franchisee? Just kind of what you've done with Meridian.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [40]

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Yes. TOMS King, just a little background, top 10 Burger King franchisee in the country, over 100 locations in the Midwest, Carolina, Pennsylvania and I believe, Virginia. TOMS King is a fantastic operator. We're excited about this opportunity. It really builds upon what we have been doing with Meridian. We wouldn't anticipate and necessarily be a one-off opportunity and we'll continue to look for things with leading franchisees in terms of development in PCS.

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Daniel Paul Donlan, Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc., Research Division - MD of Equity Research [41]

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Okay. And then just an update on kind of Rite Aid, Walgreens. I can't remember the stores that they bought from Rite Aid. That was known at the time on the last conference call. But just kind of curious what you think the impact to the footprint is versus what you thought it was last quarter or the quarter before.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [42]

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Yes. We haven't gotten anything definitive from Walgreens and/or Rite Aid. We believe that there are 3 stores in the geographic territory that Walgreens is effectively acquiring the Rite Aid operations. Those are really in New York and New Jersey. We haven't gotten anything definitive there yet. We continued conversations with both of them, and we'll let -- as soon as we know, we'll let everybody else know.

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Daniel Paul Donlan, Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc., Research Division - MD of Equity Research [43]

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Okay. And then just curious on volumes. There's been talk and chatter, it seems to happen like every couple of years that the 1031 exchange rules could go away. Has that influenced, you think, volumes at all? Or could it influence volumes at all as we're talking about tax reform coming into year-end?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [44]

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We haven't seen any impact. There continues to be an availability of nonrecourse financing. That CMBS market is alive and well. Any rumors of the 1031 displacement has not affected transactional activity, cap rates or anything we've seen. What happens in terms of potential tax reform package, if immediate expensing does replace the 1031 rules, current rules, IRS rules, I think it will be interesting to see if that effectively offsets really the impact there. That's, we think, passive real estate. And I believe passive real estate owners want to be passive real estate owners. So I think the tax treatment there could effectively be an offset if those 2 rule changes came into fruition. All in all, our -- probably our #1 competitor in our acquisition realm is the 1031 buyer and the private buyer. We very rarely, if ever, run into another publicly traded REIT or even a nontraded REIT. It's another purchaser that nobody has ever heard of. So if we can eliminate that purchaser from our competitive set in terms of the granular acquisition activity that we typically execute on, we think that's advantageous.

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Operator [45]

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Our next question comes from George Hoglund of Jefferies.

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George Andrew Hoglund, Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Equity Research Analyst [46]

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Most of my questions have been answered. So I guess, just one last thing. If you could just provide a little bit of color on leasing done during the quarter in terms of spreads on new versus renewal leases. And just what kind of capital did you have to put into those leases? And then also just in general, how common is it to basically replace a tenant on a net lease property when you get to the end of the renewal period?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [47]

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Yes. So all of our 2017 maturities had now been -- they've been taken care of with minimal or if any, capital requirements. Our leasing teams here, led by Mark Brand, has done a fantastic job in terms of 2017. Typically, these are options -- contractual options that are exercised by the tenants that have fixed bumps. Obviously, minimal rollover during the quarter, but you can assume that any rollover has somewhere between 50 and 150 basis points on an annual basis of growth, typically every 5 years. In terms of our 28 expirations, we're in fantastic shape. As I mentioned, today, we currently sit at 1.3% aggregate expirations, really no sizable expirations in there. And we think there are some opportunities in the portfolio and our team is well ahead of those expirations and working on them, as I mentioned, in the prepared remarks.

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George Andrew Hoglund, Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Equity Research Analyst [48]

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Okay. And then just one last thing is, how often is it that you'll actually replace a tenant on a net lease property if someone wants to exit?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [49]

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I would tell you, specific to us, we have had very little turnover. At the same time, we aren't typically holding assets until they're dark and then looking to release them. If we don't like the trend, if we don't like the creditor, the underlying real estate or something doesn't conform any longer to the quality of our portfolio, we'll look to dispose of it. And so frankly, in our portfolio, we have done very little replacement of those tenants. We -- I think it's one, a function of the credit quality; two, a function of the lease structure; and then three, really the nascency of our portfolio. If not the majority, most of the rollover we have in 2018 is really legacy assets that the company originally developed. So those are very low basis, at least a number of them are at $2 a foot. And so we think there's some embedded opportunities that those tenants don't exercise their contractual options.

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Operator [50]

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Our next question comes from Todd Stender of Wells Fargo.

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Todd Jakobsen Stender, Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division - Director & Senior Analyst [51]

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Can you talk about -- I just wanted to get into some of the yields you're entering at, particularly for the development projects. Can you get more granular, say, on Mister Car Wash, the Art Van deal and then Orchard Supply?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [52]

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Yes. So I would tell you, our development yields have held up to our -- really to our historical standards. Ground-up turnkey development, we have and we'll continue to target yields above -- at or above 9%. Opportunistically, if we see something, could we go lower? Sure. But if we're going to spend 24 months on a ground-up development, we think there's got to be that value embedded in that opportunity. They are time-consuming and we want to be efficient with our time here. In terms of PCS yields, our PCS yields typically are approximately around 8%. Again, we're not undertaking true development, entitlement, permitting land acquisition and lease negotiation on most of those opportunities, we look at the -- really as an inorganic development opportunity where the true value creation was created by our partner, either the retailer who found the site or a private developer. And then to your last question on Orchard Supply specifically, that's a very unique transaction. That's our redevelopment, a retenanting and expansion of an existing space within the portfolio. Those returns were frankly, in the midteens. So we're talking about 15-plus percent incremental returns there, which obviously are outsized and was a fantastic transaction for us.

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Todd Jakobsen Stender, Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division - Director & Senior Analyst [53]

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Okay. And then how about on yields or spreads rather? Let's exclude Orchard Supply, but just say, call it on a Mister Car Wash, what kind of spreads are they to maybe a one-off acquisition?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [54]

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Well, Mister Car Wash has historically, prior to the launch of our organic development platform, executed sale-leaseback transactions with REITs or institutional purchasers on a portfolio basis in the low 7s. In terms of our returns on Mister Car Wash, I don't want to get into them specifically. They conform to our historical standards.

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Todd Jakobsen Stender, Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division - Director & Senior Analyst [55]

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So spreads are at least 200 basis points, would you say?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [56]

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Close, yes.

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Todd Jakobsen Stender, Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division - Director & Senior Analyst [57]

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Okay. On then on the capital side, your ability to tap the ATM has been pretty impressive. It's a lower-cost way to match fund your investments in small bites. If you're raising $29 million in the quarter, how many investors is that spread over?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [58]

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That's a good question. I think there was a couple of larger trades in terms of institutional investors. But then regular to way ATM activity, there's really no way for us to quantify the number of investors that, that stock is sold to.

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Todd Jakobsen Stender, Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division - Director & Senior Analyst [59]

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Okay. And then just finally, the high end of the disposition guidance calls for another $20 million of sales in Q4. How much of a possibility is that? And any color on timing of when that could be sold?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [60]

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Yes. So we've got a Walgreens -- as I mentioned earlier, we've got a Walgreens currently under contract we anticipate closing fairly shortly here. We will also look at potentially selling some franchise restaurants at opportunistic cap rates. And we think those transactions will come to fruition as well most likely in the next 30 days. And so we think, obviously, last quarter, we raised the low end of the disposition guidance. We've now hurdled that. Again, the transaction market can be fickle on the disposition side, especially with the 1031 laws and those regulations. But we think that we're going to be right in that range of the disposition guidance, most likely toward the higher range. And most of those transactions are in the Q and we anticipate them to close.

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Operator [61]

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(Operator Instructions) Our next question comes from Ki Bin Kim of SunTrust.

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Ki Bin Kim, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc., Research Division - MD [62]

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So at this point, well, you have to balance raising equity or selling assets like Walgreens at low cap rates. What are the things you're considering when you choose either or? And what's a more attractive source of equity capital at this point?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [63]

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Well, I think there's a number of considerations. With the Walgreens dispositions, I would tell you, on the disposition front, of our dispositions are really driven by 2 things: one, we want to pare back exposure and redeploy the proceeds on an accretive basis, such as the Walgreens transactions, which we've clearly telegraphed to the market; or two, something doesn't fit within the context quality wise of our overall portfolio. We won't be shy to pull the trigger there. It's challenging necessarily to match fund disposition proceeds with acquisition with the uses of capital just because of the timing constraints, and as I said in the earlier answer, just the fickleness of those purchasers. And so dispositions for us is really -- it's the fourth prong to our 3 external growth platforms. It is -- we were active managers of our portfolio. We want to maintain the highest quality portfolio, sell -- obviously sell assets at attractive cap rates. Or if we don't like something given the sector, the credit, the yield, the demographics or residuals or store trends, we will cut cords very quickly. And so in terms of thinking about in terms of overall proceeds, we think that -- we thought that $25 million to $50 million was appropriate. We're at just over $30 million in terms of a close to date. We think we'll be up towards the upper end. And it's obviously a good source of equity capital for us, balance with the ATM activity in the previous follow-on.

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Ki Bin Kim, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc., Research Division - MD [64]

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And earlier in the call, you made comments about revisiting optimizing some processes or something along those lines. Any more color on those?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [65]

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Yes. It's -- our team here, which is -- which I talked about, just the growing dynamics of our team. We're at 32 people. We anticipate being up to 34 team members here by year-end. And so we've taken a very hard look for the past 12 to 24 months where we really started at all of our internal processes to streamline and make ourselves more efficient. We're talking about a company that -- the portfolio and the size, it's dynamic change that one of our core values here was just constantly challenging ourselves to improve. And so the management team here has undergone professional development training in terms of specific skills, and then the operational team has gone through Lean training, which has been fantastic for us just to establish total clarity and come to really a metric-driven approach to everything that we do. We like to say here, if you can't put a number to it, you can't manage it. And we've seen some amazing gains in terms of just putting those processes in place, streamlining, driving efficiencies. You combine that with the systems improvement that we've made, and we feel today that we've gone from a small entrepreneurial company to a fully established middle-market company.

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Ki Bin Kim, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc., Research Division - MD [66]

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Okay. And just last question in 2017, approximately what percent of the deals that you've acquired are -- kind of originated under new -- brand-new lease terms under Agree's lease form versus buying something in the open market that was originally like a 12-year lease that you're buying it with 10 years left in the lease duration?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [67]

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So most landlords who are doing with national or super regional or really established tenants aren't using their lease form, right, that's a misnomer. So retailers had a lease form that's typically customized or modified for a specific landlord if they have a previously negotiated form. And so the ability of landlords to dictate a lease form only is available, I would tell you, with small operators, who don't have legal departments, established leases in place already. I mean, can you imagine if Walgreens or Walmart or even a smaller tenant like Mister Car Wash was negotiating individual leases with every single landlord? So that...

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Ki Bin Kim, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc., Research Division - MD [68]

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And that (inaudible) literally, lease -- the new lease (inaudible) what I meant is, like it originated by Agree versus Virginia (inaudible) somewhere else in the market that has kind of been a couple of years into the lease already?

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [69]

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So I don't have -- I can't give you an exact answer, I have to get back to you on that. I tell you, all of our development and Partner Capital Solutions activity where we play an integral role in negotiating that lease and that outcome. And then all of the lease modification opportunities that we undertake through amendments typically, we are amending previous documents. I can't give you a specific number off the top of my head though.

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Operator [70]

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This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Joey Agree for any closing remarks.

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Joel N. Agree, Agree Realty Corporation - CEO, President and Director [71]

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All right. Well, thank you for -- everybody, for joining us, and we look forward to seeing you in Dallas at NAREIT in the future. Thank you.

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Operator [72]

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The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.