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Edited Transcript of BLK earnings conference call or presentation 16-Apr-19 12:30pm GMT

Q1 2019 BlackRock Inc Earnings Call

NEW YORK Apr 17, 2019 (Thomson StreetEvents) -- Edited Transcript of BlackRock Inc earnings conference call or presentation Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 12:30:00pm GMT

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Corporate Participants

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* Christopher Joseph Meade

BlackRock, Inc. - General Counsel & Chief Legal Officer

* Gary Stephen Shedlin

BlackRock, Inc. - Senior MD & CFO

* Laurence Douglas Fink

BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO

* Robert Steven Kapito

BlackRock, Inc. - President & Director

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Conference Call Participants

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* Alexander Blostein

Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Lead Capital Markets Analyst

* Craig William Siegenthaler

Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division - MD

* Jeremy Edward Campbell

Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division - Lead Analyst

* Kenneth Brooks Worthington

JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - MD

* Michael J. Cyprys

Morgan Stanley, Research Division - Executive Director and Senior Research Analyst

* Patrick Davitt

Autonomous Research LLP - Partner, United States Asset Managers

* Robert Andrew Lee

Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division - MD and Analyst

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Presentation

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Operator [1]

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Good morning. My name is Gigi, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the BlackRock, Inc. First Quarter 2019 Earnings Teleconference. Our host for today's call will be Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Laurence D. Fink; Chief Financial Officer, Gary S. Shedlin; President, Robert S. Kapito; and General Counsel, Christopher J. Meade. (Operator Instructions)

Thank you. Mr. Meade, you may begin your conference.

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Christopher Joseph Meade, BlackRock, Inc. - General Counsel & Chief Legal Officer [2]

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Good morning, everyone. I'm Chris Meade, the General Counsel of BlackRock.

Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that during the course of this call, we may make a number of forward-looking statements. We call your attention to the fact that BlackRock's actual results may, of course, differ from these statements. As you know, BlackRock has filed reports with the SEC which lists some of the factors that may cause the results of BlackRock to differ materially from what we say today. BlackRock assumes no duty and does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements.

So with that, I'll turn it over to Gary.

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Gary Stephen Shedlin, BlackRock, Inc. - Senior MD & CFO [3]

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Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. It's my pleasure to present results for the first quarter of 2019. Before I turn it over to Larry to offer his comments, I'll review our financial performance and business results. While our earnings release discloses both GAAP and as-adjusted financial results, I will be focusing primarily on our as-adjusted results.

BlackRock generated $65 billion of total net inflows in the first quarter or 4% annualized organic asset growth, reflecting our differentiated solutions-based approach to addressing client needs. Our first quarter results reflect the benefits of our integrated business model and the investments we've made to diversify our investment platform, enhance our risk management and technology capabilities and build local expertise at global scale. First quarter revenue of $3.3 billion was 7% lower than a year ago, reflecting the impact of fourth quarter equity market declines on our 2019 base fee entry rate.

Operating income of $1.2 billion was down 11% compared to a year ago while earnings per share of $6.61 was down 1% as lower operating income and a higher effective tax rate were partially offset by higher nonoperating income and a lower share count in the current quarter. Nonoperating results for the quarter reflected $135 million of net investment income, driven by higher marks on our unhedged seed capital investments and the revaluation of certain strategic minority investments.

Our as-adjusted tax rate for the first quarter was approximately 22% and included a $22 million discrete tax benefit related to stock-based compensation awards that vested during the quarter. We continue to estimate that 24% is a reasonable projected tax run rate for the remainder of 2019 though the actual effective tax rate may differ as a consequence of nonrecurring or discrete items and issuance of additional guidance on tax legislation.

First quarter base fees of $2.8 billion were down 5% year-over-year primarily due to the negative impact of non-U. S. equity markets and foreign exchange on average AUM and an associated mix change favoring lower-fee fixed-income assets compared to a year ago. On a constant currency basis, base fees were down 3% year-over-year. Sequentially, base fees were up 1% or 3% after adjusting for the impact of a lower day count in the first quarter driven by market appreciation, organic base fee growth and higher securities lending revenue. On an equivalent day count basis, BlackRock's fee rate increased from 18 basis points in the fourth quarter to 18.2 basis points for the first quarter of 2019.

Performance fees of $26 million decreased meaningfully from a year ago, reflecting lower revenue from liquid alternatives and long-only equity products. As noted on our fourth quarter earnings call, investment underperformance entering the first quarter resulted in certain quarterly locking funds falling below high watermarks. We saw improved performance in many of these funds during the last 3 months, which better positions us for the remainder of the year.

Continued momentum in institutional Aladdin resulted in 11% year-over-year growth in quarterly technology services revenue and 17% year-over-year growth on a trailing 12-month basis. As Larry will discuss in more detail, overall demand remains strong for our full range of technology solutions. Advisory and other revenue of $49 million was down $22 million year-over-year primarily reflecting lower earnings attributable to an equity method investment. On a sequential basis, the decline reflected lower fees from advisory and transition management assignments.

Total expense decreased 4% year-over-year primarily due to lower compensation and volume-related expense. Employee compensation and benefit expense was down $54 million or 5% year-over-year, reflecting lower incentive compensation, driven in part by lower operating income. Sequentially, compensation and benefit expense was up 5% primarily reflecting higher seasonal payroll taxes and an increase in issuance and mark to market of deferred compensation, partially offset by lower incentive compensation driven in part by lower performance fees.

Direct fund expense was down $19 million or 7% year-over-year primarily reflecting the negative impact of equity and foreign exchange markets on average index AUM. G&A expense was up 1% year-over-year, reflecting higher technology expense partially offset by the impact of product launch cost in the first quarter of 2018. Sequentially, G&A expense decreased $61 million, reflecting seasonally lower marketing and promotional expense, lower professional services expense and $31 million of contingent consideration fair value adjustments related to prior acquisitions recorded in the fourth quarter of 2018.

Our first quarter as-adjusted operating margin of 41.9% was down 220 basis points from a year ago, reflecting the negative impact of markets and foreign exchange on quarterly base fees and a strategic decision to continue investing responsibly for the long term. While we are always margin-aware, we have deep conviction in the stability of our business model, which allows us to better navigate the financial challenges associated with short-term market volatility. Since year-end, beta has been constructive, organic growth has improved and a number of our hedge funds are back above high watermarks, all of which contributed to 9% growth in our assets under management and position us well for the second quarter.

We remain focused on funding our most critical strategic initiatives to optimize organic growth and significantly advanced 2 of these strategic initiatives, technology and illiquid alternatives during the first quarter. We are confident these investments will enhance outcomes for clients and generate long-term value for shareholders.

Last month, we announced the binding offer and exclusive agreement to acquire eFront, the world's leading end-to-end alternative investment management software and solutions provider. As clients increasingly add to their alternatives allocations, the ability to seamlessly manage portfolios and risk across public and private asset classes on a single platform will be critical. The combination of eFront with Aladdin will set a new standard in investment and risk management technology and reinforce Aladdin's value proposition as the most comprehensive investment operating system in the world. Subject to the French works council process, we expect the transaction to close in the second quarter.

We have also announced the first close of Long Term Private Capital. LTPC is an innovative perpetual direct private equity fund designed to create value for the long term, limit reinvestment risk and operate with lower volatility than comparable vehicles. It's a crucial new component of BlackRock's comprehensive alternative investment capabilities, which now include hedge funds solutions, real assets, private credit and direct private equity. LTPC is another example of BlackRock's ability to assess the market, organically develop our capabilities and deliver the products and solutions clients need most.

Our capital management strategy has always been to first invest in our business and then return excess cash to shareholders through a combination of dividends and share repurchases. As previously announced, we increased our quarterly cash dividend by 5% to $3.30 per share of common stock and repurchased $1.6 billion worth of common shares in the first quarter, including $1.3 billion repurchased in a private transaction at approximately $413 per share. We have now completed our targeted level of share repurchases for 2019 but will remain opportunistic should relative valuation opportunities arise.

BlackRock is having deeper and more strategic conversations with a greater number of clients than ever before, and our first quarter results highlight the value of the investments we've made to assemble the industry's broadest offering of active and indexed investment strategies, coupled with technology and portfolio construction tools. The diversity of our platform positions us to serve clients' needs in a variety of market environments and enables us to generate consistent and differentiated organic growth. Quarterly net inflows of $65 billion were positive across active and indexed strategies as well as in our cash management business.

BlackRock's institutional franchise generated $29 billion of net inflows, representing 4% annualized organic asset growth. Flows were led by momentum in fixed income, reflecting continued demand for liability-driven investment solutions and our top-performing active strategies. Institutional active net inflows of $15 billion were driven by $13 billion of active fixed-income flows, reflecting strong activity in our insurance client channel.

Momentum in our illiquid alternatives franchise continued into 2019. Record quarterly net inflows of $6 billion were led by infrastructure, real estate, private credit and the previously mentioned first close of LTPC. In addition, we have approximately $22 billion of committed capital to deploy for institutional clients in a variety of strategies, representing a significant source of future base and performance fees.

iShares net inflows of $31 billion reflected global client demand for a diverse range of strategies, including core, fixed income, factor and sustainable ETFs. We saw record quarterly flows in fixed income iShares as clients continue to adopt ETFs for corporate, emerging market and high-yield bond exposures. Approximately 40% of iShares' flows in the quarter were in higher-fee products outside of the core, resulting in annualized organic base fee growth of 7%, in line with organic asset growth in the quarter.

Retail net outflows of $1 billion reflected industry pressures in international equities and world allocation strategies, partially offset by strength in BlackRock's municipal fixed-income franchise and event-driven liquid alternatives funds.

Finally, BlackRock's cash management platform saw $6 billion of net inflows as we continue to grow our cash business, leverage scale for clients and deliver innovative distribution and risk management solutions through a combination of Cachematrix and Aladdin.

In summary, our first quarter results highlight the breadth of our investment strategies coupled with our industry-leading technology and portfolio construction capabilities and an ability to service clients on a global scale. While we will never be immune to beta headwinds and the impact those headwinds can have on our short-term financial results, we intend to remain focused on investing in our highest growth priorities and exercising prudent expense discipline to ensure we meet the critical needs of clients and shareholders alike. Our goal remains to deliver consistent and differentiated organic growth in the most efficient way possible.

With that, I'll turn it over to Larry.

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Laurence Douglas Fink, BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [4]

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Thank you, Gary. And good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining BlackRock's first quarter call.

BlackRock's broad investment platform generated $65 billion of total net inflows in the first quarter, representing 4% organic asset growth and 3% organic base fee growth. The breadth of our investment capabilities spanning indexed, alpha-seeking, alternatives and cash, coupled with our industry-leading technology and portfolio construction capabilities allowed us to generate strong flows and, importantly, meeting the evolving needs of our global clients. BlackRock's commitment to staying ahead of our client needs continues to resonate, and we are deepening those relationships with our clients throughout the world more than ever before.

Following significant declines in equity markets in the fourth quarter of last year, investors reversed their risk tolerance at the start of 2019. U.S. markets have regained their losses in both developed and emerging market equities, although not fully recovering are up about 10% year-to-date. High-yield fixed income, the most challenged category last year, is now seeing inflows. Improved investor sentiment has been driven in part by easing concerns around the global monetary policy in trade.

The Federal Reserve and other central banks are emphasizing a more a patient approach to monetary policy, quieting investors' fears of tightening monetary policy and conditions late in our cycle. And investors' focus on trade tensions have declined relative to last year as negotiations between the United States and China progresses.

Despite strong market performance year-to-date, average market levels are still lower than they are a year ago and investor optimism remains fragile as geopolitical risk and global growth concerns persist. While recent development in China should increase global capital investment spending, notably weak eurozone PMI data signals further slowdown in Europe. In the U.K., although a hard Brexit has been avoided in the near term, those issues remain unresolved. In this global context, clients are continuing to turn to BlackRock.

Our focus has always been and always will be to listen to our clients' goals and challenges so we could better anticipate and evolve ahead of our clients' needs. Today, clients are increasingly asking for more transparency. They're searching for more value. And most importantly, like we're seeing in so many other industries, clients are looking for more convenience. And they want sustainable long-term returns, but they also want everyone focusing on their outcomes. And these are the major issues that are impacting, I would say, the asset management industry today.

I wrote in my letter to shareholders this year about the need for more dialogue around long-term outcomes. As we've done throughout our history, BlackRock continues to invest in our investment platform and our technology to deliver the outcomes our clients are looking for. Every decision we make is centered on enhancing our ability to partner with our clients.

In 2 months, we will cross the 10-year anniversary of BlackRock's announcement to acquire Barclays Global Investors. Over the last 10 years, our strategy behind the merger has resonated. Being agnostic across alpha and indexed strategies allows us to have a different voice -- a differentiating voice for our clients.

Much has changed for our industry and for BlackRock in this past decade. Rather than looking for individual products, clients are increasingly seeking a partner to help them create tailored portfolios. It is only by delivering that to clients that we can drive growth and create long-term value for our shareholders. And that is why we continue to evolve our platform and our organization today.

BlackRock's strategy for delivering long-term growth is centered on 3 main drivers: capturing the shift from product selection to portfolio construction, leading in technology across the asset management value chain and gaining global and local expertise in high future growth markets around the world. We do all of this with the ultimate goal, again, of enhancing our clients' experience and deepening our client relationships globally.

Last year, we launched the Client Portfolio Solutions teams to formally bring together the strategic advantages that enable us to create whole-portfolio solutions for both institutional and wealth clients. Leveraging BlackRock's differentiated research, our investment and technology capabilities and portfolio construction, Client Portfolio Solutions generated more than $11 billion of net inflows in the first quarter and continues to gain strong momentum. We are expanding our capabilities across portfolio building blocks and investing in areas of highest client demands, and ETFs are one of those areas.

iShares generated $31 billion of net inflows in the first quarter and, once again, captured the #1 market share of ETF flows globally in Europe as well as the high-growth categories, including fixed-income ETFs, factor ETFs and sustainable ETFs. This quarter, flows reflect the diversity of our iShares platform by region. In addition, we saw $17 billion of net inflows in U.S. iShares, and we generated $15 billion of net inflows in European iShares, which represented a 17% organic growth.

In higher growth -- in higher-fee iShares categories, including fixed income, factors and sustainable ETFs, we generated a total of $38 billion of net inflows. And core iShares generate $19 billion in the first quarter. While these flows were partially offset by outflows from a handful of equity iShares, which reflects the reversal of strong fourth quarter tax-related inflows, iShares continues to benefit from long-term secular trends, including the global shift to portfolio construction and to fee-based wealth management.

Financial advisers are increasingly adopting models to customize portfolios for clients in a simple and scalable way. The use of models is driving demand for both ETFs and high-performing alpha strategies in addition to digital tools that help advisers better see where risk and fees are being allocated, and BlackRock is well positioned for that.

After more muted growth in 2018, we are seeing renewed demand for fixed-income securities. BlackRock generated $80 billion of fixed-income inflows across active and indexed products. Flows were led by increased adaptation of fixed-income ETFs, which generated $32 billion of net inflows across high-yield, emerging market bonds and treasuries. Non-ETF indexed fixed-income flows of $29 billion were driven by strong demand for LDI strategies as clients immunize their portfolios, and we saw diversified flows into our top-performing active fixed-income platform with net inflows of $18 billion across core, fixed-income, municipal bonds and high-yield strategies. Performance in our active fixed-income strategies remained strong with 83% and 85% of assets above benchmark or peer median for the 3- and 5-year period.

We are constantly innovating across our platform to meet client needs and delivering growth for shareholders. For example, in cash management where we generated $6 billion of inflows in the quarter, we are leveraging our Cachematrix technology to improve convenience and transparency for our clients. We are also innovating on the types of cash management strategy we offer to clients. And last week, we launched a Liquid Environmentally Aware Fund, or LEAF, as a prime money market fund with an environmentally focused investment strategy. The fund will use 5% of its net revenues to purchase and retire carbon offsets and direct a portion of the proceeds to conservation efforts.

Increasingly, clients want sustainable strategies that provide financial returns and target a measurable social or economic impact. BlackRock's goal is to make those strategies more accessible to more people. Beyond dedicated sustainable investment funds, we're also integrating environmental, social and government risk factors across all our investment processes. We firmly believe business-relevant sustainable data is useful for all of our portfolio managers and ultimately results in decision-making that delivers better long-term results for our investors and our clients.

With our continued focus on evolving ahead of clients' needs, we're also developing an innovative new private equity vehicle designed to meet institutional client needs for the long-term, high-quality private company exposures. BlackRock Long Term Private Capital strategy, LTPC, offers institutions the opportunity to invest on the continuum between publicly traded equities and leveraged buyout-style private equity. The fund will have a perpetual structure and an active ownership approach designed to create value for the long term.

At the end of the first quarter, LTPC secured $1.25 billion of capital commitments from cornerstone investments. Including LTPC, BlackRock had a record quarter in our illiquid alternative business, with $6 billion of net inflows. And clients continue to search for yield and attractive risk-adjusted returns. We also deployed $2 billion of committed capital in the first quarter and have another $22 billion of remaining capital to deploy.

As we look to bridge the gap between public and private assets, we also realize that clients benefit when alternative investments are evaluated inside a portfolio-level risk management framework. That is why we announced last week our exclusive agreement, subject to conditions, to acquire eFront. This acquisition will deepen BlackRock's strength in 2 of our strategic growth areas, our illiquid alternatives and technology, and will enable portfolios that span traditional and alternative asset classes to be managed much more comprehensively.

Technology is changing every aspect of the asset management landscape, and BlackRock's results, milestones and continuum innovation are only possible because we prioritize making technology central to our entire business. Strong global momentum continues in our Aladdin business, driving 11% growth over -- year-over-year in our technology services revenues. A number of new client wins in the first quarter included Santander, the first asset manager to use Aladdin in markets such as Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Portugal. And momentum in investments we're making in technology will continue to drive our technology services revenues growth to the low to mid-teens going forward.

BlackRock's long-term strategy is to provide technology across asset management value chain, and we are expanding our technology platform beyond our core Aladdin business to deepen our value proposition with clients and partners and generate direct technology revenues for the firm. As the investment management ecosystem seeks deeper integration along investment life cycles, we are extending Aladdin to our asset servicing providers to further unlock the network effects of Aladdin platform.

Earlier this month, we announced a strategic alliance with Bank of New York Mellon to deliver an integrated data technology and asset management service capability to shared clients through Provider Aladdin. By enabling access to investment management and servicing capabilities on one platform, the client will be able to further optimize their operating models and reduce operating expenses.

One of the biggest opportunities for Aladdin going forward is to make the language of portfolio construction for wealth management -- wealth managers, financial advisers, individual investors. Aladdin Wealth is now live with 9 clients based in the U.S., U.K., Continental Europe and Asia. We see tremendous opportunities for Aladdin Wealth to become the infrastructure of the wealth management landscape. But more importantly, it provides BlackRock with an opportunity to deepen our value proposition and brand with wealth partners and their financial advisers. Accelerating trends, including the movement towards portfolio solutions and a wider product usage, necessity of operating scale and enhanced regulatory reporting, are creating the need globally for more comprehensive and a more flexible technology-driven solution. Aladdin remains well positioned to capitalize on these trends as the industry-leading whole portfolio investment operating system.

Just as we continue to innovate and evolve our investment and technology business to meet our clients' needs, we're also evolving BlackRock's leaders and we're evolving our organization to enhance client experiences with BlackRock. We made organizational leadership changes every few years because we firmly believe these changes bring great benefits to our clients, to our shareholders and to our leaders themselves. Recent announcements are centered on bringing BlackRock closer to our clients, deepening our relationships with them and more efficiently and more effectively delivering all of BlackRock's capabilities to our clients. These changes help us maintain our entrepreneurial spirit by bringing in fresh ideas to different areas of the firm and further developing our leaders around the world. I can say very proudly that I have never been more excited about BlackRock's organization and our people than any time in our history.

We begin 2019 by maintaining our steadfast focus on client needs. This will continue to position BlackRock as the right partner for our clients and a leader in the growth areas of the future.

With that, let me open it up for questions.

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Questions and Answers

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Operator [1]

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(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from Craig Siegenthaler from Crédit Suisse.

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Craig William Siegenthaler, Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division - MD [2]

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So we continue to see BlackRock expand further in the tech sector here. We saw this again in the first quarter with the acquisition of eFront. My question is how will BlackRock clients use this software technology. And also, more importantly, how do you plan on monetizing this technology, including potentially supporting your alternative fundraising effort?

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Laurence Douglas Fink, BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [3]

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So we look at technology in 5 business fronts across BlackRock, and we're focused on every businesses. Actually, we had a leadership retreat last week, this past weekend, and we spoke about how we have to work on technology in every business. There's not a business at BlackRock that should be untouched with technology. Technology has to be the component of shaping how we do business. So we look at technology in 5 different areas. We look at technology to deliver better alpha using more data sources. We're using technology now, as I spoke about in my prepared remarks, on creating technology for more convenient portfolio construction. Obviously, we're using technology with more operational efficiencies. Aladdin Provider is a good example. Throughout our history, we're using more and more technology for risk management. And now we're using technology to create more convenience with our clients by delivering better tools for distribution.

And so we're framing technology across all these businesses. eFront really is a great example of us using a technology to really help us in delivering 2 out of the 3 major long-term strategies that I -- we spoke about in my shareholder letter. We speak about why technology has to be driving BlackRock and why alternatives have to continue to drive the future of BlackRock. And in -- and eFront helps us deliver in those 2 key categories. The third one is China. If I have to say, a fourth one is retirement, but those are the 2 of the key characteristics of our forward-go strategy. Related to eFront in itself, it is going to be provided as a new revenue set -- a component of Aladdin, and it's going to be an add-on cost to our Aladdin platform. It is -- and so it'll be integrated on top of the Aladdin platform over time, but it will be another sleeve, and we're actually -- there were some overlaps with the clients, and there were many new clients that were part of eFront, so it allows us to have broader depth globally worldwide. And so we look at this acquisition as another milestone of us really trying to build technology across all asset categories, and we did cite that we had some weaknesses in alternative technology in Aladdin, and this really helps us accelerate the added sleeves of alternative technology on Aladdin. So this will be another revenue center for BlackRock as a part of the Aladdin platform.

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Operator [4]

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Our next question is from Robert Lee from KBW.

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Robert Andrew Lee, Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division - MD and Analyst [5]

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Maybe, just flesh out a little bit on the alternatives platform. Obviously, you spent -- in addition to the eFront, you've spent a lot of time and energy, some acquisition, the organic growth. Can you maybe -- where do you feel like you stand with your alter platform in terms of, do you like it, at this point, you have most of the strategies covered, or -- and it's more about kind of scaling with subsequent funds? Or are there still places you feel like there's maybe holes you're looking to fill?

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Laurence Douglas Fink, BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [6]

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Let me have Gary start it off, and I'll try to answer it, if I need to.

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Gary Stephen Shedlin, BlackRock, Inc. - Senior MD & CFO [7]

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Yes, Rob. I think we feel that we're very well situated on the illiquid platform at the moment. Obviously, we've got a range of products now that span kind of across the more major categories. LTPC firmly puts us in the direct private equity. Obviously, we have a significant real estate business, an infrastructure business, a private credit business. We have a variety of solutions-oriented businesses, whether it be funded hedge funds, funded private equity and broader alternative solutions. So I think we feel like we've got a foot in every one of the high-growth markets. I think when we add it all up today, we've got about $65-plus billion in illiquid plus another $22 billion or so of committed capital to go. So that gives us a fair amount of scale. I think when you look at the individual businesses, one could argue that individually, they're not big enough. And so that will come, obviously, with successor funds and continuing to develop -- continue to deliver the returns that our investors expect. And so, obviously, as we do that, successor funds will get bigger. And we will continue to opportunistically look for tactical opportunities to create more scale in those businesses. But as I think we've been very, very clear, culture is incredibly important to us. We're not really looking to buy out anybody. We're really looking to buy in people who want to be a part of our very differentiated platform, and we see those opportunities, as we've seen in the past, with our new partners from Tennenbaum or First Reserve and others. We'll do things that basically make sense not only for clients but also for our shareholders. So bottom line is we'll continue to see what's out there and be opportunistic. But we feel like we've got a pretty good growth platform right now.

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Laurence Douglas Fink, BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [8]

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As you know, Rob, we've been very systematic in how we've been approaching this, and it has not been, what I would call it, metamorphic by any means. If you think about just our infrastructure platform, we started, really, infrastructure in 2012 by lifting out a team of people. We're over $20 billion now in infrastructure, going quite nicely. We're raising a couple more funds. So it's been very systematic, and I think the same thing will be done over at -- with LTPC. Over time, that's going to be continuing to grow. We actually have opportunities that continue to build that out. We have real estate.

And so over time, this is a growth area. Our first quarter was up $6 billion in growth. That was a record quarter for us. As Gary suggested, we have $20 billion -- or $22 billion of dry -- of committed capital right now and that they will be put to work. We look at this as a real opportunity, and our clients are looking to us to be really focused on these type of opportunities. So I'm pretty constructive on where we are at this point in time.

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Robert Steven Kapito, BlackRock, Inc. - President & Director [9]

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Can I add one thing? The other part that we're pretty excited about is that we have done some institutional surveys, and it shows that the largest reallocation is going to be to the alternative space. So we do need to have a wide product base to be able to satisfy our current clients' needs. But also, you know that we are very important to the retail base, and they want exposure to the alternatives area. So we're also working very closely with our retail distribution partners to create the appropriate wrappers to put the alternatives that have the appropriate risk and reward for those clients that are looking for it. So it's not just institutional investors, it's also retail investors that are looking to us for some exposure in the alternative space.

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Robert Andrew Lee, Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division - MD and Analyst [10]

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Okay. Can I ask maybe just sort of tactical follow-up question? Larry, you mentioned there being some kind of reversal of the fourth quarter ETF equity flows that were driven by tax reasons. But broadly, across the industry, despite this big rebound in the market that kind of feels like demand for equities in general, both index and active, have been pretty muted, is there -- are you -- is this really more just symptomatic of the people bifurcating their portfolios, more going to alternatives and, obviously, better fixed income demand? Or is there something else going on underneath it do you think?

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Laurence Douglas Fink, BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [11]

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So on the question we saw strong re-risking for those who were in cash and allocated back into fixed income. We saw that predominantly, a lot of investors were believing that interest rates are going to go higher, central banks were going to continue to tighten and obviously the change in central bank forward forecast and their behaviors, many investors were underinvested and put duration to work across the board. As we have seen, as Rob Kapito just mentioned, we're seeing investors continue to barbell, going more and more heavy into alternative spaces. What the first quarter showed also that investors are still selling equity exposures. As an industry, there were major outflows, again, in overall global equities as an industry. This is one of the reasons why I actually believe we're at a pivot point now where equity markets, despite the rally, can have much more upside because the amount of underinvestments investors have in equities, they have not re-risked in equities in the first quarter. And so to me, we believe, as you're starting to see renewed economic activity in the United States from the slow pace of the first quarter, and we're moving closer to about 2.5% economy in the second quarter, we're seeing stronger economic signals out of China from all the fears we had in the third and fourth quarter. So I would argue there is a high probability going forward that investors are going to begin to re-risk across the equity platforms. And what we hear from investors and where -- we see investors coming in every day, seeing our leaders, seeing Rob, seeing me, and the biggest question is we're being asked continuously, "Where should we put our money?" There is huge pools of money sitting the sideline and many people thought we were going to have that continued downdraft in the fourth quarter. They thought interest rates were going to go higher. And a lot of -- as I said, the bigger risk is that clients are underinvested, not overinvested. So we see more upside here, especially in equities.

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Robert Steven Kapito, BlackRock, Inc. - President & Director [12]

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So one thing on the tactical comment. If you started last year with a 60-40 stock mix, which is what most people have, by the time you got to somewhere in October, that number would have been 80-20, which is really too much risk. So you saw a lot of tactical asset allocation changes to get their portfolios back to 60-40, which meant you had to sell stocks and buy bonds. And at the same time, the risk-free rate during the year went from 0% to 3%, so bonds look pretty good coming out of cash. So I think we saw that in November and December. That added to the fuel to, for the first time, being able to take a tax loss for a very long time. But now in the first quarter, that people are getting back to where they wanted to be, I think the risk on trade is coming back into the marketplace, and you see that reflected in where they're allocating their money tactically now.

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Operator [13]

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Your next question comes from Patrick Davitt from Autonomous Research.

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Patrick Davitt, Autonomous Research LLP - Partner, United States Asset Managers [14]

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You mentioned that -- the 9 live Aladdin for Wealth clients. Could you update us where you think we are in the ramp-up of noticeable incremental flow from those 9 go-lives, update us on the pipeline of new go-lives this year? And are there any meaningful milestones you're looking to, to see a more noticeable uptick in flows from that channel?

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Robert Steven Kapito, BlackRock, Inc. - President & Director [15]

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So we're very optimistic on the Aladdin for Wealth because, for the first time, it gives a lot of the financial advisers the ability to look and test their clients' portfolios to make sure that they're taking the right risk in them. And so as they come on, we're building it together. They're asking can we do this, can we do this, what can we show our clients? And, of course, within a system, the things that these firms are able to send out to their clients have to be approved to send out. That takes a little time. So there's a little bit of a lag. So there was a lag in implementation, and now we are in process with many of them on getting them onto the systems and to understand how it works and what they can actually use for their clients. So it has been an eye-opening experience for many of their clients. What we didn't realize was that Aladdin for Wealth can be used as an asset-gathering tool. And most clients in the retail area have accounts at more than one firm. And if you're one of the firms, that can show your client the risk and reward of their portfolios and then improve it. That is a great advantage, and we're seeing a lot of money move for those who have Aladdin to with -- from people that don't have it. Also, the business has moved from individual stock and bond picking to asset allocation and portfolio construction, and that's what the financial advisers are expected to be able to do. By using Aladdin for Wealth, they are able to take not only one portfolio, but hundreds of portfolios and organize them in an appropriate way for risk return using portfolio construction. It also helps each of these individual institutions utilize their models as well as have an alternative model to compare it against BlackRock's models. And so Aladdin for Wealth is helping the financial adviser to have tools for better decision-making, right at their fingertips. And also, of course, if they're using our portfolio allocation or our tools, there's a high probability that they may look favorably upon our products. In portfolio construction, today, because of the way the compensation system works, they want to use the cheapest products that they can find to do that portfolio allocation, and those wind up being ETFs and index product, of which we have a significant market share.

So Aladdin for Wealth is helping the financial advisers have the tools to do their job better. It's helping us to be part of the infrastructure and the ecosystem to build out better tools and technology for firms that, unfortunately, underinvested in technology. And at this time, cost is very important, so to be able to buy it at a good price and have it maintained is, I think, just going to grow for the future. So we're very excited about it. But as we have done with Aladdin, as we have brought clients on, we're learning as well what some of the advisers need, and we're building it together to have the best tools, and the tools will also create an ecosystem that also is working with their custodian so that it's much easier. And Larry mentioned the word convenience. So it's a tool that's right at their fingertips that they can log on and get really good information and very good scrubbed data so that they can have a better system.

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Gary Stephen Shedlin, BlackRock, Inc. - Senior MD & CFO [16]

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But Patrick, just to be clear because I just -- some of the terminology I just want to make sure we're clear on. I mean, the most significant immediate impact from a P&L standpoint is, obviously, to see the revenue show up in our technology services line, which is where the Aladdin Wealth line will hit. There's 2 components to Aladdin Wealth. There's kind of that, what I would call, more of the top-down, kind of home office view, which is really driving the technology revenue, and then there'll be that bottoms-up impact that basically will happen at the individual adviser level, which will generate the flows, which I think was your initial question.

Keep in mind, a lot of this is happening real time. We're rolling it out right now at many places. There is an element of training and getting all of these advisers up to speed on all the new tools that they will have at their disposal. So the flow deltas, which will then drive our base fees, is going to take a little bit longer than the immediate impact of that technology revenue that you're going to see much more immediately. In other situations, like Envestnet, where we -- that is not on Aladdin Wealth, but it's basically putting our portfolio construction technology on the desktop of the RIAs that have. Again, I think there you will see, basically, more impact in base fees because there is no specific technology revenue associated with that type of partnership.

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Laurence Douglas Fink, BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [17]

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But early indications for the Aladdin Wealth users who've been on the longest, there is evidence of increased flows to BlackRock. We don't have enough statistics to really identify where it is. We don't have enough data with all the different users. As we said, 9 clients worldwide, and we are in conversation with many more clients. So our objective is to have, as Rob just suggested, the architecture for risk in the wealth management channel using Aladdin for Wealth.

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Operator [18]

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Your next question comes from Michael Cyprys from Morgan Stanley.

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Michael J. Cyprys, Morgan Stanley, Research Division - Executive Director and Senior Research Analyst [19]

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Just another question on Aladdin here with eFront that now brings you into alternatives. Just curious as you look across the Aladdin platform, what other adjacencies could make sense or capabilities that you'd like to see strengthened with Aladdin, particularly as you look across the competitive landscape today?

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Gary Stephen Shedlin, BlackRock, Inc. - Senior MD & CFO [20]

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I think we're committed to being an end-to-end provider for risk management and analytics across, from the front to the back. So I think we've been building out a lot of that, in particular, ourselves. I think the decision to do eFront was a conscious decision, frankly, that it was going to take us a lot longer to build that. Our belief is that the eFront transaction accelerates our development in the private asset classes conservatively by 5-plus years. So I think we felt we needed to attack there when we can. Otherwise, I think we'll continue to add on all the obvious adjacencies when we think about an end-to-end provider, and we'll continue, again, to be tactical and opportunistic to basically balance where we think it makes sense to buy versus where we think it makes sense to build.

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Laurence Douglas Fink, BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [21]

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But it's clear that we are -- if you look at our strategy in terms of inorganic opportunities, well, we're scrubbing, we're reviewing, we're really trying to understand the whole technology environment. That's where we're focused on. I've been saying this over quarters and quarters. We are not focused on asset management M&A in the developed markets. We're focused on if there is an inorganic opportunity in technology that adds more opportunities to be, as Gary said, end-to-end provider. Whether that's a data provider or a new technology or AI, we will continue to be either building it or using it -- using opportunities to acquire. And that's what we're very much focused on, and we have a whole team continuously looking at the whole ecosystem worldwide.

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Operator [22]

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Your next question is from Alex Blostein from Goldman Sachs.

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Alexander Blostein, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Lead Capital Markets Analyst [23]

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So yes, maybe just a refresher on some of the guidance that you guys provided in the beginning of the year. Given the fact that the market's moved pretty considerably over the course of Q1, maybe how you guys are thinking about outlook for G&A for the rest of the year? I think your original guide implies something in a $1.6 billion kind of annual number. Does that still hold? And then any other comments around expenses would be helpful.

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Gary Stephen Shedlin, BlackRock, Inc. - Senior MD & CFO [24]

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Thanks, Alex. I would say really short answer is no change in guidance. I think that we -- as we said at the beginning of the year, we are very focused on managing the entire discretionary expense base. We continue to see our 2019 kind of core level of G&A expense to be essentially flat to our core level for last year, and we're continuing to invest. I mean, as always, there are things that come up that are effectively kind of not manageable. So we saw another, let's call it, I would say roughly $15 million to $20 million of kind of like noncore G&A in this quarter between paying some fees to get eFront done and some more purchase price contingency, fair market value adjustments and some FX implications. But in terms of what we're managing, we're continuing to stick to the plan that we laid out for our board in January. I think that we tried to anticipate. We saw some volatility. And as I said in my prepared remarks, I mean, we are very much focused on the long term, not trying to manage to a margin on a quarter-to-quarter basis. Obviously, just saw a lot of that beta come back, which obviously better positions us and I think we feel a little bit better with the markets where we are now than when we went into our budgeting season back in the fall. But we're going to continue to keep an eye down the field and play offense and continue trying to optimize growth in the most efficient way possible.

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Your next question comes from Jeremy Campbell from Barclays.

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Jeremy Edward Campbell, Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division - Lead Analyst [26]

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Just wanted to ask a quick one on the advisory and other line. I know you guys had mentioned some items that moved it on a year-over-year and sequential basis, but it was a pretty big step-down. So I guess, just what's the outlook? And how should we think about that line going forward from this lower 1Q-type level?

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Gary Stephen Shedlin, BlackRock, Inc. - Senior MD & CFO [27]

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So our other revenue line item is really made up of 3 main components. The biggest component, frankly, is an equity-method investment that we have had for a number of years, which is obviously where we're getting our attributable share of somebody else's earnings, and that one is a little more complicated because we don't control that. And that, frankly, on a quarter-over-quarter basis -- I'm sorry, on a year-over-year basis, was the most significant change there.

The other 2 businesses that are effectively in that is our FMA business, our Financial Markets Advisory business, as well as our transition investment management business. I would say those are both smaller-revenue line items, where there is significantly more consistency, and those are both businesses that are important to BlackRock that we continue to look to grow and annuitize as much as we can, albeit both of those tend to have some, what I would call, more capital market-centric elements to them. So they are a little bit volatile. Really the biggest piece of that year-over-year change was the equity method. Now I think everybody knows who that is, and you guys can track that as well as we can.

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Operator [28]

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Your last question comes from Ken Worthington from JPMorgan.

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Kenneth Brooks Worthington, JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - MD [29]

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Can you help us frame how iShares' operating margins and iShares' margins on incremental revenue have evolved over the last, say, 2 or 3 years? Clearly, core is much bigger, fee rates are down, but assets are way up. So given the various cross currents, I was hoping to frame how margins might look in iShares and to what extent the significant growth in core and iShares overall have impacted the margins on incremental revenue there.

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Gary Stephen Shedlin, BlackRock, Inc. - Senior MD & CFO [30]

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So Ken, as you know, we tend -- we don't talk about margins of our individual businesses. We're very focused on a One BlackRock model to avoid all of our businesses operating as silos. It's very important to our culture, and it's how we manage the business day in and day out. So we don't have those types of fully allocated P&Ls for our businesses because we don't think it engenders the right behavior day to day.

I can help you on the revenue line item. And I think back in December we were at Goldman and we talked about what we see as effectively the long-term growth potential for iShares and ETFs. I think we outlined a 12% to 15% kind of top line asset growth rate. I think we do anticipate certain sectors growing faster than others, which is why we have tried to point people to an organic base fee rate that will be less than that. Historically, I think we've seen an organic base fee rate somewhere around 6 to 7 points less than that, which is part of the slide we put out at Goldman. Don't hold me exactly for those numbers, you'll have to go see it, but I think that's about what it was. And that takes into account both mix change in terms of faster growth in the core but also as well as some of the strategic pricing investments we have made and we'll likely continue to make that make sense both for clients and for our shareholders alike. This quarter, in particular, we actually saw organic base fee growth equal to organic asset growth. It was right in the 7% area. And again, I think that is a function, again, of about 40% of the flows being outside of the core, and that's in areas, whether it be fixed income, strategic beta, factors, ESG or other precision exposures, frankly, that tend to be more capital markets-centric. And the importance of that, obviously, is that those are higher fee than the core itself. And I think we do continue to believe very strongly that as we see growth in the core, we also see growth outside of the core as people are tactically allocating portfolios around the core ETFs. So that's what I would tell you about the revenue. I think we feel very comfortable that, that -- that our iShares business will be growing in excess of our 5% longer-term growth target. But as it relates to specific margins, I'll leave that to you guys to try and sort through. We don't manage the business that way.

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Operator [31]

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the allotted time for questions. Mr. Fink, do you have any closing remarks?

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Laurence Douglas Fink, BlackRock, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [32]

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I do. I want to just thank everybody for joining this morning and your continued interest in BlackRock. I believe our first quarter results are directly linked to the investments we've made over time and our deep partnerships we built with our clients globally. I think we differentiate ourselves by continuing to leverage our scale. We continue to invest a broad investment and technology platform to deliver a value to our clients and shareholders. We're continuing to drive technology as a leading force in the transformation of who BlackRock is and the transformation of how BlackRock works with our clients, and we will continue to do that. With that, everyone, have a very nice spring. And we'll be talking to you sometime in July. Thanks.

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Operator [33]

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This concludes today's teleconference. You may now disconnect.