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Q4 2019 Catalent Inc Earnings Call

Somerset Sep 2, 2019 (Thomson StreetEvents) -- Edited Transcript of Catalent Inc earnings conference call or presentation Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 12:15:00pm GMT

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Corporate Participants

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* John R. Chiminski

Catalent, Inc. - Chairman & CEO

* Thomas Castellano

Catalent, Inc. - VP of Finance & IR and Treasurer

* Wetteny N. Joseph

Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO

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Conference Call Participants

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* Daniel Gregory Brennan

UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Healthcare Life Sciences

* David Howard Windley

Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Equity Analyst

* Donald Houghton Hooker

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - VP and Equity Research Analyst

* Evan Arthur Stover

Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division - Senior Research Associate

* John Charles Kreger

William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division - Partner & Healthcare Services Analyst

* Juan Esteban Avendano

BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Associate

* Rivka Regina Goldwasser

Morgan Stanley, Research Division - MD

* Tejas Rajeev Savant

JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Analyst

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Presentation

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Operator [1]

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Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Catalent Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2019 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tom Castellano, Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer. Sir, you may begin.

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Thomas Castellano, Catalent, Inc. - VP of Finance & IR and Treasurer [2]

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Thank you, Shannon. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to review Catalent's fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 financial results. Please see our agenda on Slide 2 of our company presentation, which is available on our Investor Relations website. Speaking today for Catalent are myself, John Chiminski and Wetteny Joseph.

During our call today, management will make forward-looking statements and refer to non-GAAP financial measures. It is possible that actual results could differ from management's expectations. We refer you to Slide 3 for more detail. Slides 3, 4 and 5 discuss the non-GAAP measures, and our just-issued earnings release provides reconciliations to the nearest GAAP measures. Catalent's Form 10-Q to be filed with the SEC later today has additional information on the risk and uncertainty that may bear on our operating results, performance and financial condition.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to John Chiminski.

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John R. Chiminski, Catalent, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [3]

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Thanks, Tom, and welcome, everyone, to our earnings call. We're pleased with our fourth quarter financial results, which position us well heading into fiscal year 2020.

As you can see on Slide 6, our revenue for the fourth quarter increased 6% as reported or 8% in constant currency to $726 million. The growth in revenue was driven by our Biologics and Specialty Drug Delivery, Oral Drug Delivery and Softgel Technologies segments and was partially offset by the ASC 606 revenue recognition change, which reflected how we report comparator sourcing activity within our Clinical Supply Services segment. Excluding the impact of this revenue recognition change, revenue would have increased 11% in constant currency compared to the prior year. Organic revenue grew 4% year-over-year during the quarter in constant currency and was led by a strong recovery within our softgel and Oral Drug Delivery segments with Biologics and Specialty Drug Delivery also contributing.

Our adjusted EBITDA of $199 million was a record quarter for the company and above the fourth quarter of fiscal year of 2018 on a constant-currency basis by 11%. Our adjusted net income for the fourth quarter was $102.9 million or $0.70 per diluted share, which is $0.03 above the same figure from the prior fiscal year.

The strong results at the profitability line were led by our Oral Drug Delivery and Softgel Technologies segments but all segments reported profitability above prior year levels. Additionally, for fiscal year 2019, we've recorded revenue growth of 2% as reported and 5% in constant currency while recording adjusted EBITDA growth of 9% as reported and 11% in constant currency. As a reminder, fiscal year 2019 revenue was negatively impacted by the ASC 606 revenue recognition change. Excluding the impact of this change, revenue grew 9% compared to the prior year.

Now moving on to our operational update. First, we continue to make great strides on our Biologics strategy. The business continues to grow, and I'm pleased to announce that the Bloomington site recently received approval for its 21st commercial product, which is up from the 12 it was producing at the time of the acquisition. We continue to manage a robust funnel of late-stage clinical opportunities across Bloomington management that will continue to drive strong growth in fiscal year '20.

Additionally, the $200 million investment in Biologics spanning both Bloomington and Madison is well underway and progressing according to plan. This investment will add more drug substance manufacturing and drug product fill/finish capacity to meet projected growth among existing and future customers.

Further adding to our Biologics portfolio, on May 17, we completed the acquisition of Paragon Bioservices, a leading viral vector development and manufacturing partner for gene therapies. Paragon provides us new expertise and capabilities in one of the fastest-growing therapeutic areas in health care, reinforcing Catalent's leadership position across biologics and positioning us for accelerated long-term growth.

Paragon brings deep expertise in Adeno-associated viral vectors, the most commonly used delivery system for gene therapy as well as a platform for development of an expanded offering of vectors, enabling entry into other adjacent technology categories to support the development and manufacturing of gene and cell therapies. This expertise, combined with Paragon's manufacturing capabilities and world-class facilities, positions us well to capitalize on substantial industry tailwinds in gene therapy. Paragon's leading position in vector manufacturing, its blue-chip customer base and its expanding commercial footprint make it an ideal strategic fit for our business.

The business is performing well out of the gate, and the expected positive impact of Paragon on our future revenue and EBITDA profile will deliver highly compelling value to shareholders as evidenced by our recently announced increase in our expected long-term revenue growth outlook from 4% to 6% to 6% to 8%. We supplemented the capabilities we gained with the Paragon acquisition by acquiring 2 nearby manufacturing facilities and other related assets and capabilities from Novavax. The agreement gives us immediate access to state-of-the-art manufacturing equipment, people and space to accelerate the growth of our gene therapy development and manufacturing business.

As a reminder, Catalent Biologics, including Paragon, Bloomington and our preexisting Biologics businesses, can provide integrated solutions from drug substance manufacturing and analytical services through clinical and commercial supply and fill/finish in a variety of finished dose forms, including vials, cartridges and syringes. Biologics comprised approximately 14% of Catalent's consolidated revenue in fiscal year 2017 and represents more than 32% of the company's revenues today. The combination of organic and inorganic investments we're making in Biologics continue to create significant value for the company, our customers and our shareholders.

Second, the European early-development center of excellence we acquired as a part of the Juniper Pharmaceuticals transaction in the first quarter of fiscal year 2019 continues to advance our strategic goal to be the most comprehensive partner for pharmaceutical innovators, helping our customers to unlock the full potential of their molecules and provide better treatments to patients faster. The integration of the Nottingham, U.K. site and its nearly 150 employees into the Catalent network is tracking according to our expectations, and the acquisition continues to contribute strong financial results to our Oral Drug Delivery segment.

Third, in June, we announced our agreement to purchase Bristol-Myers Squibb oral solid, biologics and sterile product manufacturing and packaging facility in Anagni, Italy. This transaction will enhance our global network and provide us drug product sterile fill/finish capacity and oral solid dose manufacturing in Europe, along with an agreement to continue to manufacture BMS' current product portfolio at the site. The addition of the Anagni facility provides our European customers with great biologics and oral dose capabilities to accelerate their development programs and improve commercial supply. We anticipate completing the transaction by the end of the calendar year.

Fourth, last month, we announced that we have significantly expanded our global spray drying capacity through an agreement with Sanofi Active Ingredient Solutions, under which we've gained access to commercial-scale spray dry manufacturing services for Catalent customers at Sanofi's Haverhill, U.K. facility. The agreement not only gives us access to spray drying capabilities and state-of-the-art equipment but also to an experienced and skilled team at the site with expertise in commercial-scale spray drying dispersions, which are frequently used to overcome the solubility challenges with many new medicines.

This instant-on capacity, along with the investment that we're making at our Winchester, Kentucky facility, enables the transfer and scale-up of spray drying programs from our specialized early-stage clinical development sites in San Diego, California and Nottingham, U.K. I'm also pleased to report that we've already signed our first program into the new capacity at Haverhill and are in discussions with several other potential customers. Finally, we remain positioned increasingly well in an attractive, robust, growing market and have the strongest development pipeline since Catalent's inception with more than 1,100 active projects.

Now I'll turn the call over to Wetteny Joseph, our Chief Financial Officer, who'll take you through our fourth quarter fiscal year 2019 financial results as well as provide our outlook for fiscal year 2020.

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [4]

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Thanks, John. As John briefly mentioned earlier, the company adopted ASC 606, the new accounting standard concerning revenue from contracts with customers as of July 1, 2018, using the modified retrospective method. The reported results for the 3 months and fiscal year ended June 30, 2019, reflect the application of the new standard while the reported results for the 3 months and fiscal year ended June 30, 2018, were prepared under the guidance of the prior standard, ASC 605. This is especially important as I discuss the results related to our Clinical Supply Services segment where adoption of the new standard changed the treatment of our comparator sourcing activities, which are now recorded on a net basis compared to a gross basis in the prior year.

Now please turn to Slide 7 for a more detailed discussion on segment performance, beginning with our softgel business. As in past earnings calls, my commentary around segment growth will be in constant currency. Softgel revenue of $244.7 million increased 5% during the quarter with segment EBITDA increasing 14% due to strong growth for prescription and consumer health volumes in North America and Europe partly due to the stabilization of ibuprofen supply.

As we anticipated, we saw recovery in the fourth quarter as we experienced strong production levels for ibuprofen products given API supply availability, which helped partially offset the headwind we experienced through the first 9 months of the fiscal year. Additionally, the strong EBITDA performance was driven by the improved capacity utilization and favorable product mix across the network. It is also worth noting that the fiscal 2019 revenue growth for the segment would have been nearly 2% after normalizing for the Asia Pacific divestitures completed late in fiscal 2018 and the impact of the ibuprofen shortage, which is aligned with the segment's historical revenue growth rate.

Slide 8 shows that our Biologics and Specialty Drug Delivery segment recorded revenue of $231.1 million in the quarter, which is up 19% versus the comparable prior year period, with segment EBITDA growing 2% during the quarter. However, most of the segment's revenue growth and all of the segment's EBITDA growth was inorganic and driven by the Paragon acquisition, which contributed 15 percentage points to the segment's revenue growth and 17 percentage points to the segment's EBITDA growth. Excluding Paragon, the segment recorded organic revenue growth of 4% in the quarter on an EBITDA decline of 15%.

Recent investments in our Biologics business continue to translate into growth during the fourth quarter as we recorded strong growth in drug product and drug substance volumes across the U.S. while the preexisting business experienced revenue declines in Europe along with an unfavorable product mix partially due to the timing of the annual maintenance shutdown at one of our facilities, which negatively impacted the segment's bottom line.

Additionally, the business was impacted by the completion of a limited-duration customer contract for noncell line clinical manufacturing services in our U.S. drug substance platform as the customer completed the buildup of its own capacity. We expect this to be a headwind for our drug substance business over the next few quarters as we work to onboard new customers and continue to increase our utilization levels. However, we continue to believe that our Biologics business is positioned well to drive future growth. The results for the respiratory and ophthalmic business were in line with the prior year period, and the fundamentals remain attractive for these key sterile fill technology platforms.

Slide 9 shows that our Oral Drug Delivery segment recorded revenue of $174.1 million in the quarter, which is up 16% versus the comparable prior year period, with segment EBITDA increasing 30% during the quarter partly attributable to the Juniper Pharmaceuticals acquisition, which contributed 10 percentage points to the segment's revenue growth and 13 percentage points of the segment's EBITDA growth during the quarter. The organic revenue growth of 6% and EBITDA growth of 17% was driven by increased demand and favorable product mix within our commercial oral delivery business as well as higher volume related to analytical and development services across the U.S. and Europe. Additionally, the segment continues to have one of our strongest development pipelines, including several late-stage spray dry development programs, and we expect to see accelerating growth in the near to midterm.

In order to provide additional insight into our long-cycle businesses, which includes Softgel Technologies, Biologics and Specialty Drug Delivery and Oral Drug Delivery, we are disclosing our long-cycle development revenue and the number of new product introductions or NPIs as well as revenue from NPIs. As a reminder, these metrics are only directional indicators of our business since we do not control the sales or marketing of these products nor can we predict the ultimate commercial success of them.

For the fiscal year ended June 30, 2019, we reported development revenue across both small and large molecule of $646 million, which is more than 20% above the development revenue recorded in the prior fiscal year. Additional disclosure on our development revenue, which is now calculated in accordance with ASC 606, is included in our Form 10-K to be filed today with the SEC. In addition, we introduced 193 new products, which contributed approximately $103 million of revenue in the fiscal year, which is nearly 70% more than the revenue contribution of NPIs launched in the prior fiscal year.

Now as shown on Slide 10, our Clinical Supply Services segment posted revenue of $85.1 million, which is now 19% compared to the fourth quarter of the prior year, driven by ASC 606 treatment of comparator sourcing activity. Excluding the impact of ASC 606, segment revenue declined 3% compared to the prior period, but segment EBITDA increased 10% compared to the fourth quarter of the prior year driven by favorable product mix to manufacturing and packaging services, improved comparator margins and increased capacity utilization across the network. All of the segment EBITDA growth reported within CSS was organic.

As of June 30, 2019, our backlog for the CSS segment was $366 million, a 6% sequential increase. The segment reported net new business wins of $94 million during the fourth quarter, which is a decrease of 6% compared to the net new business wins recorded in the fourth quarter of the prior year. The segment's trailing 12-month book-to-bill ratio remained at 1.2x. It is important to note that the backlog and net new business wins figures that I just disclosed have been adjusted for the ASC 606 change in revenue accounting and now include comparator revenue on a net basis.

The next slide contains reference information. We have already discussed the segment results shown on the consolidated income statement by reporting segment on Slide 11. Slide 12 shows in precisely the same presentation format as Slide 11 the fiscal 2019 performance of our operating segments both as reported and in constant currency. I will not cover the various drivers in detail since the main themes are consistent with what we discussed throughout the fiscal year.

The key is that our growth drivers are the Paragon and Juniper acquisitions; strong growth within our Biologics, drug product and drug substance offerings; favorable product mix within Oral Drug Delivery related to licensing activities and higher storage and distribution revenue; and improved capacity utilization within Clinical Supply Services, which are partially offset by the impact on our softgel segment of the worldwide ibuprofen shortage during the first 9 months of fiscal 2019, oral solids revenue decline due to certain high-margin products and the end of a limited-duration customer contract that impacted our U.S. drug substance business.

Slide 13 provides a reconciliation of the last 12 months of EBITDA from operations to the most proximate GAAP measure, which is net earnings or loss. This bridge will assist in tying out the reported figures to our computation of adjusted EBITDA, which is detailed on the next slide.

Moving to adjusted EBITDA on Slide 14. Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 10% to $199.4 million. On a constant-currency basis, our fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 11%, most of which was inorganic and driven by the Paragon and Juniper acquisitions, coupled with organic growth within our softgel, ODD and CSS segments.

Note that Slide 14 contains a revised presentation of the reconciliation of net earnings to adjusted EBITDA. We have revised the presentation so that you can see the effect on our LTM adjusted EBITDA for each of the 4 quarters of fiscal 2019 of our removal of an adjustment of $15.1 million previously made solely in the first quarter of fiscal 2019. The adjustment related principally to a payment made by a customer that was fixed and determinable in the first quarter following termination of the contract with us and that due to the company's adoption of ASC 606 as of July 1, 2018, using the modified retrospective method, was not reflected in GAAP revenue in that quarter and instead was part of a transitional adjustment to retained earnings recorded as of the opening of the quarter. Removal of that adjustment reduced adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter of fiscal 2019 by $15.1 million to $99.9 million, resulting in full year adjusted EBITDA for fiscal 2019 of $599.6 million.

On Slide 15, you can see that fourth quarter adjusted net income was $102.9 million or $0.70 per diluted share compared to adjusted net income of $90 million or $0.67 per diluted share in the fourth quarter a year ago. This slide also includes the reconciliation of net earnings or loss to non-GAAP adjusted net income in the same revised format used for the previous adjusted EBITDA reconciliation slide showing essentially the same add-backs.

Slide 16 shows our debt-related ratios and our capital allocation priorities. Our total net leverage ratio as of June 30 was 4.4x, which is more than a full turn above where the ratio stood at the end of the prior quarter. The ratio increased as a result of incremental debt added to fund the Paragon acquisition. Pro forma for the Paragon acquisition, our total net leverage ratio was 4.2x, which is an improvement of 0.3 turn compared to the ratio at the time we announced the transaction.

Additionally, given the free cash flow generation of the company and its growing adjusted EBITDA, the company naturally delevers between 0.5 and 0.75 turn per year. Finally, our capital allocation priorities remain unchanged and focused, first and foremost, on organic growth followed by strategic M&A.

Turning to our financial outlook for fiscal year 2020 on Slide 17. We expect full year revenue in the range of $2.78 billion to $2.88 billion. We expect full year adjusted EBITDA in the range of $700 million to $730 million and full year adjusted net income in the range of $300 million to $330 million. We expect that our fully diluted share count on weighted average basis for the fiscal year ended June 30 will be in the range of 159 million to 160 million shares, counting the preferred shares we've issued in May to fund part of the Paragon acquisition as if they all were converted to common shares in accordance with their terms.

In addition to the guidance we just provided on revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net income, we also wanted to highlight our expectations related to our consolidated effective tax rate, which we expect to be between 24% and 26% in the fiscal year. We also expect interest expense in fiscal '20 to increase as a result of the incremental debt added to fund the Paragon acquisition and to be between $130 million and $134 million during the fiscal year. Lastly, continued investments in Biologics, including gene therapy, are expected to increase our fiscal year 2020 capital expenditures to approximately 11% to 12% of net revenue.

Slide 18 walks through some of the moving pieces that we considered when determining our fiscal 2020 full year revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance. The first set of bars brackets the changes that we expect to see in our base business performance, which aligns with our constant-currency long-term outlook at the revenue line but are much stronger from an EBITDA perspective. Organic revenue growth is expected to range between 4% at the low end and 7% at the high end of the range. Organic EBITDA growth is expected to be between 9% at the low end and 12% at the high end of the range as a result of favorable mix trend across the business.

The second set of bars adjust FY '20 for the full year impact of the Paragon acquisition that was completed in May 2019 so there are approximately 3.5 quarters of incremental contribution in fiscal 2020 included in that adjustment. The third set of bars highlight the impact of the sale of our softgel facility in Braeside, Australia, which primarily makes vitamin, mineral and supplement products, to one of our customers Blackmores. As you may recall, we announced the sale of this facility in April 2018 and has been working to move certain non-Blackmores products to other sites within our network. This transition is well underway, and the anticipated transaction is expected to close in October 2019. The revenue and EBITDA impact highlighted in net -- is net of the product transfers that will remain within the Catalent softgel portfolio.

The last set of bars brackets the negative FX translation impact to revenue and adjusted EBITDA year-on-year, principally driven by the recent strengthening of the U.S. dollar in relation to the euro and pound sterling. In fiscal 2019, the average euro rate was 1.14 and the average pound sterling was 1.29. In light of recent activity in the foreign exchange markets, we assumed a euro conversion rate of 1.12 and a pound sterling rate of 1.22 in our fiscal 2020 financial guidance, resulting in a modest FX headwind. As you can see on the slide, these drivers yield an anticipated adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of approximately 150 basis points, assuming the midpoint of our guidance range.

Lastly, let me remind everyone of the seasonality in our business and highlight our expected quarterly progression through the year. As discussed for several years now, the first quarter of any fiscal year is generally our lightest quarter by far with the fourth quarter of any fiscal year generally being our strongest by far. This will continue to be the case in fiscal 2020 where we expect to realize approximately 40% of our adjusted EBITDA in the first half of the year and 60% of our adjusted EBITDA in the second half of the fiscal year.

Operator, we would now like to open the call for questions.

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Operator [1]

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(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Tycho Peterson with JPMorgan.

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Tejas Rajeev Savant, JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Analyst [2]

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This is Tejas on for Tycho. So John and Wetteny, I mean it looks like Paragon drove about a $30 million contribution from roughly about half a quarter since the deal closed. Just wanted to get your take on -- was that in line or sort of materially ahead of your expectations here? And then any early color that you can share in terms of customer response, if anything has surprised you there?

And then as a quick follow-up to that, you've spoken about sort of Paragon having a pretty well-diversified pipeline of programs across 30-plus customers. But obviously, in the near term, there is a degree of customer concentration here. So is there anything to point out, Wetteny, in terms of the cadence of revenue from these customers in fiscal '20 or some unique seasonality in this portion of the business that we should keep in mind as we model the contribution?

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John R. Chiminski, Catalent, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [3]

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Yes. So Tejas, I'll take the first part of this before we get into the financial question that you asked early on. I'd say, first of all, on the customer response, has been extremely positive with regards to Catalent acquiring Paragon. I've been in dialogue or met with a majority of the top customers along with my team. And I would say that we really got Paragon at a point where they needed to have a company, if you will, that would be able to continue to, I would say, invest in their growth as well as bring in the processes necessary for the strong growth that they have. So it's been received very well by Paragon, now Catalent's customers as well as by the overall team. In fact, we've had, I guess, near 100% retention of all the team and have all of them under our retention agreement. So we're very happy about that.

With regards to, I would say, the robustness of the business, I mean today, they have probably 30 to 40 early-stage programs with customers, and that's growing almost on a weekly basis. Paragon has an incredible reputation, and quite frankly, the business development activities result mostly from picking up the phone from referrals or knowledge of Paragon and their capability. And from those, I would say, 30 to 40 early-stage programs, we also have probably about another, I guess, 100 programs that are being run by -- 30, 40 customers with about 100 programs, if you will, being run through Paragon.

We do have several large customers there. But I would say that across all of Catalent, in an individual site, we may have some customer concentration. But in terms of the robustness of the funnel that we have there, it causes no concern, and again, they're growing by leaps and bounds.

And with that, I'll turn it over to Wetteny with regards to any commentary with regards to the performance in the stub period.

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [4]

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Sure. Tejas, you're roughly right in terms of the contribution from Paragon in the roughly half of a quarter. I would say that, that was slightly above our expectations and, certainly, are very pleased with the business out of the gates for us. You can see in our guidance the inorganic portion that we are assuming in our guidance as far as the contribution from Paragon for the fiscal year. Of course, that's roughly 3.5 quarters worth with the other half falling in the base business bucket list.

The one thing I would add, in addition to having a number of programs we have with the customers, we announced in the quarter the addition of 2 facilities from Novavax, which bring us both capable staff as well as manufacturing lab space that we should be able to, in the future, attract even more programs to further diversify the slate of customers that we have in the business in the long term.

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Tejas Rajeev Savant, JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Analyst [5]

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Got it. And then John, a couple of quick sort of unrelated follow-ups here. Can you just share some quick thoughts on your perspective on the commercial spray drying opportunity? I mean obviously, you signed the Sanofi agreement here. And I think a little while ago, there was also a $40 million investment in Winchester. So how do you think of that short of shaping up down the road?

And then in terms of your Bristol agreement here, what exactly has been baked into the guide in the second half? And is there any excess capacity at the site where -- which you could leverage for other clients?

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John R. Chiminski, Catalent, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [6]

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Sure. So with regards to spray drying, I would say that our Oral Drug Delivery team has done a tremendous job building out a strategy that brought in early development capabilities through the acquisition of Pharmatek, Nottingham, and we also repositioned our Somerset site. And we have, I would say, a majority within Catalent of spray drying molecules that are available that are being developed. It's a large site -- maybe not a majority, I would say maybe 30%, 40% of the molecules that are out there, Catalent has them in early development. So we really needed to build out a commercial spray drying capability.

And because of the need of our customers, the team had a terrific strategy, which was we knew that the build-out in Winchester was going to take a couple of years so we needed to have a little instant-on capability, which was the strategy behind bringing -- doing the partnership with Sanofi, to be able to take their facilities and capabilities to have that instant-on capability for the large suite of spray drying molecules that we have within the company.

And as a matter of fact, as we already noted in our prepared comments, that we've already signed our first spray drying activity in Haverhill. So we see this as just another great capability that we've built within Catalent to make sure that we have a full suite of offerings. Spray drying is one of several techniques used for solubility and bioavailability, and it was an area where we were underdeveloped. And now through what we've built out in our early development capabilities with Pharmatek and Nottingham, the former Juniper site, now we have the ability to take those products commercial. So again, I've always talked about the fact that we have probably our best robust pipeline within ODD as well as a strong strategy, so we feel terrific about that.

With regards to Anagni, again, this was a really strategic site acquisition, if you will, that we're doing with BMS. It's going to provide us capabilities within Europe that we really don't have now. It's really a fantastic site. It's going to give us capabilities from Biologics to Oral Drug Delivery packaging. And that's going to close at the end of the year. And I'll just also note that we also have, within our purchase agreement from BMS, that we'll be manufacturing -- continuing to manufacture their product within the site, and we are not providing additional financial input with regards to what we have. All I would say is that we clearly have the assumptions of Anagni baked into our fiscal year 2020 guidance.

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [7]

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We will -- once we close the transaction, we will reflect them at that point. But the guidance we stated earlier does not reflect contributions from Anagni.

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John R. Chiminski, Catalent, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [8]

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Thanks, Wetteny.

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Operator [9]

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Our next question comes from Ricky Goldwasser with Morgan Stanley.

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Rivka Regina Goldwasser, Morgan Stanley, Research Division - MD [10]

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I have a question on the Bristol-Myers agreement and more like a bigger-picture question. So when you consider the existing capacity with kind of like some of the large pharma players, do you think that this is the beginning of a trend where we're going to see pharma taking out capacity and just an overall opportunity to do more outsourcing?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [11]

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Yes. So Ricky, this is Wetteny here. I would put this as a continuing trend as opposed to a beginning of one. Historically, we have not executed such transactions to bring on capacity coming out of large pharma. We carefully evaluated this one in the context that John described earlier, which is when you look at our European presence and our footprint in combination with the Juniper acquisition, to be a fulsome CDMO, starting with development capabilities through, I think, the launch of oral solids pipeline in Europe, this is a bit of a gap that we had that this allows us to be able to close and have existing pipeline and customer relationships. Over time, we expect to take up the capacity utilization of that facility in addition to what John mentioned, which is the contract we have with BMS, whereby we'd be performing work for them at the facility.

In addition, given our focus on continuing to grow Biologics in the fast-growing end of the segment, we saw the opportunity to be able to leverage state-of-the-art capability and capacity at the facility for vial filling, which we intend to utilize as well and continue the growth in this very strong market here from a Biologics perspective. It's a combination of those things that led us to execute on this transaction that we will be closing at the end of the calendar year. But I would describe this as just the continuation of what has been a trend in the overall space in terms of large pharma taking out underutilized capacity and selling those.

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Rivka Regina Goldwasser, Morgan Stanley, Research Division - MD [12]

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Okay. And just one follow-up question on your 2020 organic EBITDA growth being just above long-term guidance. So obviously, very early on and you just provided updated long-term guidance. But do you think that this is something that we could see kind of like more, given the trend, an opportunity to raise that long-term guide over time? Or is it just an opportunity -- or kind of like easing year-over-year comparisons into next year?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [13]

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So Ricky, after we announced the Paragon acquisition, we took our organic growth -- long-term growth expectations from 4% to 6% to 6% to 8%. That's with Paragon. And sitting here, as we've just issued our guidance for fiscal '20, we're very pleased that we can see line of sight growing at those ranges and above them from an EBITDA perspective in our base business, which largely excludes Paragon as 3.5 quarters of Paragon will be inorganic in the year.

So as we've done in the past, we will continue to look at our long-range strategic plans and provide long-term guidance. And we would only give you guidance on a year-by-year basis as we enter the year given our visibility into the long-cycle portion of our businesses that are tied to commercial supply agreements with our customers as well as our visibility, quite frankly, within the shorter-cycle parts of the business that are increasingly exposed to faster-growing end of the market in Biologics and gene therapy, which afford us the ability to be able to put the guidance that we put out today. But we will do so on a year-by-year basis unless we see a change in the long-term guidance, which we recently did at the time we announced the Paragon acquisition.

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Operator [14]

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Our next question comes from John Kreger with William Blair.

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John Charles Kreger, William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division - Partner & Healthcare Services Analyst [15]

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John, I think in the prepared remarks for Biologics, you talked about one customer bringing some capacity in house and creating a near-term headwind for you. Can you just talk about, broadly, are you seeing that as a trend? Where are you seeing customers deciding to strategically have that capability for biologics in-house versus relying upon Catalent or others to do that?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [16]

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Yes. So I'll go first, and then let's see if John wants to add anything here. So first of all, this was a customer that from the beginning of the relationship was building out their own capacity. This is -- I will differentiate this from the core of what we do in our drug substance business in that, in our business, we develop cell lines generally starting with our proprietary GPEx technology. We then use those cell lines in the manufacturing of the drug substance or the biologic itself. So it starts with the cell line. In fact, 70% of the -- approximately 70% of the drug substance we manufacture in our drug substance operations start with our cell line.

This was not -- this was a non-cell line product. This is a patient-specific production for a customer that is in the realm of messenger RNA-loaded lipid nanoparticles. So it's not our core of what we do in the business. And we fully expected this to be a fixed-duration contract, again knowing that the customer is building out their own capacity in this regard.

So when I look at the base of the business, we continue to see a market that is growing robustly. We continue to see a ramp-up of our third manufacturing train, which we launched at the end of last fiscal year. And so I would say, the market dynamics in combination with our capabilities and quality, we expect long term to continue to see growth in this business, and this particular instance is not an indication that we see of a trend in the business.

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John R. Chiminski, Catalent, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [17]

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Yes. I'd just say, just to bluntly answer your question. For the main business that we do in medicine, the drug substance manufacturing, that there is no trend to build in-house capabilities, certainly not for the small and midsized customers that are a large part of what we're doing there. And again, as Wetteny said, this was a unique situation that was already, at the beginning, predetermined that they were building capacity and would exit this very deterministic contract.

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John Charles Kreger, William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division - Partner & Healthcare Services Analyst [18]

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Very helpful. And then a quick follow-up. I think your guidance for the coming year assumes 4% to 7% organic revenue growth. Any extra comments you could add across the 4 segments, where any of these should be well above or below that 4% to 7% range?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [19]

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So what I would say -- just go segment by segment without giving full guidance. As you know, on a segment basis, just looking at the trends in the business. Our softgel business in fiscal '18 has a number of transitory issues, which were very -- exiting the year, we're pleased with where the business stands. We've said, historically, this business grows between 2% to 4% organically. As a reminder, we will be having the divestiture of the Australian facility in this segment and having largely mitigated the issue with respect to the ibuprofen supply. As we exit the year, we like the trends that we're seeing in the business in addition to some recent product approvals on the prescription side, which we believe will bode well for the business. So again, long term -- I'm just giving you some of the recent trends. Long term, we expect the business to be in that 2% to 4% growth rate.

Looking at our Biologics and specialty, we just discussed the drug substance element, with respect to the next few quarters' impact from this one contract. But when you look at the drug product and the underlying drug substance business in our core Biologics business, we continue to see low double-digit top line growth rate in the business. Again, the dynamics in the market are favorable and continue to point to a supply-and-demand imbalance, favoring where we sit in terms of our capabilities and quality, et cetera. So again, near-term impact from this contract, we're excluding that particularly on the drug product part of the business. And to a lesser extent, on drug substance, we continue to see a tailwind.

I think the specialty part of the business is not one we expect to grow at the levels of our core Biologics part of the segment, as we've said. As we stated previously, that's a business that we would expect to grow in the low single-digits range. And we've seen some variability in that part of the business partly due to timing of when we've done shutdowns of that nature in the business as well as work we did in our blow-fill-seal segment last year, that ebbed and flowed the capacity in the site, and therefore our comparables in the fiscal year '19 would reflect some level of variability in that part of the business as well.

Moving to oral drug. Really, you see momentum in the business as we exit fiscal '19. As we've said, the development pipeline in this business is the strongest that we have. We're very pleased with the number of strategic moves that we've made here, including the pipeline of spray dry dispersion late-stage programs that we've had that we look to capitalize long term, both with the Haverhill agreement as well as the organic investments we're making in our Winchester facility in the U.S. And so again, in addition to development in analytical services, which had a strong quarter for us in the fourth quarter, so we would expect to continue to see momentum in the business. And again, long term, this is a business that's in a mid-single-digit growth rate expectations that we have.

And lastly, our clinical business. We've seen a bit of a longer time to burn. Revenue in this business as a reminder, we did, from an ASC 606 versus 605 perspective, change the revenue recognition to a net basis, and what that has done is, that is the fastest piece to start to burn from a backlog perspective. And you'll see that in the overall numbers because it's shown on the net basis. But actually, we've seen that uptick in our comparator, and we've seen that contribution from an EBITDA perspective in the business. And we are starting to see the momentum in the -- on the revenue side, not in the fourth quarter as we sit here, still early in the fiscal year from the uptick that we saw in fiscal '19 in terms of net new business wins throughout the year. So again, this is a business we would expect to be mid- to high single-digit growth long term. And I've just relayed the trends that we're seeing in the business right now.

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Operator [20]

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Our next question comes from David Windley with Jefferies.

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David Howard Windley, Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Equity Analyst [21]

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I wanted to drill in on Paragon a little bit. I think in terms of capacity and the cadence of opening new capacity, you had described 2 sites -- there are 2 suites, I should say, that we're opening in the first half, another 2 suites kind of opening in the second half and then 6 more to be opened at BWI over the course of next year. Is it possible to -- like are the 4 open now? I guess I'm just wanting to get a sense for the timing of when those suites are opening and how many suites are contributing to the revenue that you're now expecting in fiscal 2020.

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [22]

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Yes. So look, the expansion continues to be executed in line with our expectations. Clearly, we have reflected in the guidance that we gave, which we broke out into a separate bracket here, in terms of what we expect from the Paragon business. We will continue to execute and focus on the integration of the business. And what I would say is that the 2 initial suites are up and running in the facility, and we continue to work on mix, which we said would be -- will be completed late in the calendar year and proceed from there.

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David Howard Windley, Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Equity Analyst [23]

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Okay. Wetteny, it looks like -- my math isn't great, but I think I've calculated something in the mid-30s in terms of contribution margin, EBITDA margin from Paragon in the fourth quarter from what you broke out. And then the guidance at the midpoint implies something in the low 30s, which I think is certainly better than the 28% that was discussed at the time of the acquisition. Is that -- is my math right, one?

Is that a level that can continue to expand toward -- I think what you've said is that business can expand toward where the core Biologics business is performing today. I guess what I'm -- I mentioned those things, but also digging for, as you bring on this new capacity, is that a utilization hit that causes margins to step back a little bit when that happens? Or are the reservation fees and things like that supporting that margin such that, that doesn't happen?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [24]

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So look, I would say, first and foremost, your math is roughly right in terms of where the business is. And what we've said is, long term, we expect the business to be into the mid-30s EBITDA margins. Look, as we continue to -- still early days in the integration of the business. We are very pleased with the contribution in a relatively short time frame in the quarter. And you can clearly see what we are anticipating in the year given the contract that we have and elements of them that are capacity reservations as well as execution on batches. As we continue to get into years, we would provide guidance accordingly, but we'll cap it there.

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David Howard Windley, Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Equity Analyst [25]

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Okay. And then last question, sticking in BSDD. Excluding Paragon, the growth rate there has been a little soft for a couple of quarters in a row. You commented on timing of shutdowns, I think, related to that, though I may be confusing that with ODD. But the respiratory and ophthalmic business appears to be a drag there. The -- but you also in response to an earlier question, called the kind of core Biologics business there a low double-digit grower, which is down from what you've historically called mid-teens. And so I do want to understand in the core BSDD excluding Paragon, is that core Biologics business still -- can it still do mid-teens long term? Or have we moderated that and why?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [26]

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So look, our long-term view of the business remains consistent. This is a business we would continue to see delivering into the teens from a top line growth rate perspective. What I indicated is that in both third quarter and the fourth quarter, if you look at our drug substance and our biologics drug product not oral drug product as some drug product is small molecule, but if you look at the biologics drug product and drug substance, we continue to see low double-digit growth. That's a combination of a mix between drug product growing well into the teens and drug substance being a bit below that as we compare, as we said in the third quarter, to some timing with respect to -- with the prior year.

Now one thing I would remind you of is, in this business, we still have a fair amount of clinical manufacturing operations. We announced recently that today that we now have a 21st commercial drug approval for Bloomington, by way of example. Bloomington is still working with upwards of 100 programs. And so that would tell you that the majority of the programs we're working with, both on drug substance and drug product, are actually in the clinic.

And the next important milestone evolution for our drug substance business in Madison is to get us to commercial scale. Until then, we continue to see clinical programs which can ebb and flow in terms of when the larger later-phase programs, you have batches run for them versus other times. So I think some level of variability across the business is something we would expect, albeit the long-term growth rates are -- continue to be what we expect in the business, particularly if you look at it long term from a CAGR perspective. But from quarter-to-quarter or half a year to half a year, you may see this feature given that these are largely clinical-stage programs that we have.

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Operator [27]

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Our next question comes from Dan Brennan with UBS.

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Daniel Gregory Brennan, UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Healthcare Life Sciences [28]

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Hate to go back to the question Dave just asked. But if you wouldn't mind, Wetteny, just in the quarter itself, so Biologics grew what in the quarter versus specialty delivery?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [29]

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We've said it's a low double-digit growth if you just look at the core Biologics portion of the business. So you can roughly back into what the rest of the business is.

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Daniel Gregory Brennan, UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Healthcare Life Sciences [30]

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Okay. And then back to Paragon. So I think at the time of the deal, you said you had 70 customers at the time of the deal, and I think you said you were, I think, fully booked for fiscal '19 and fiscal '20. So I guess the question is -- I figured if you updated it earlier on the prepared remarks, but just give us a sense of -- I know, John, you mentioned some earlier comments on the feedback from Paragon from customers. But how do we think about kind of customer activity with Paragon? And to the extent you were to get -- win new business there, kind of back to Dave's -- I think an earlier question on capacity, kind of how much could you potentially provide above and beyond what you've already guided? Is there a capacity to do that?

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John R. Chiminski, Catalent, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [31]

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Yes. So first of all, I just have to make a comment again that the market for gene therapy work at Paragon is extremely robust. So they're winning and gaining new customers and new programs on a regular basis. And as we've talked about, we currently have 2 suites up and running, and then we have our phased buildout through the rest of this calendar year and contemplated other buildouts. And all I would say is that we have fully contemplated within our capacity models for the buildout, those numbers, into our guidance. Certainly, getting more capacity faster is something that could improve things over time. But as I said, with the current plans that are meeting our expectations, we have that fully baked into our current guidance.

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Daniel Gregory Brennan, UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Healthcare Life Sciences [32]

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Okay. And then related to CapEx and free cash flow, can you -- I believe you guided to an 11% to 12% kind of CapEx ratio for fiscal '20. Maybe can you talk to a little bit -- like what's implied for free cash flow conversion in '20? And is that level of CapEx ratio sustainable beyond fiscal '20? How do we think about the CapEx needs beyond? I know you're not going to guide for it, but just give us some sense how to think about the need for ongoing capital investment and the impact on free cash.

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [33]

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Yes, sure. We did say that we expect 11% to 12% of net revenue in CapEx. This is a combination of our sort of organic investments in our Biologics business, which we announced previously, both across drug products and drug substance, in combination with Paragon as well as others that we mentioned in terms of spray dry commercial capacity in the U.S. and so on. So we have said that we expect to see CapEx as a percentage of revenue increase over the next couple of years as we get through these roughly 2-year programs across these more significant ones, and -- which we already started to see in -- as we exited this fiscal year 2019 with roughly 9% CapEx as we exited the year.

So from a free cash flow conversion perspective, we expect between 30% and 45% conversion of adjusted net income to free cash flow given the uptick we just described from a CapEx perspective. But we are looking to really capitalize on a strong market tailwinds both in Biologics and gene therapy given our position and our capability and the quality operations across those businesses.

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Operator [34]

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Our next question comes from Donald Hooker with KeyBanc.

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Donald Houghton Hooker, KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - VP and Equity Research Analyst [35]

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Just curious maybe qualitatively, maybe for Wetteny, when you're setting your guidance for fiscal '20, how your visibility has changed. And with all these acquisitions especially around the gene therapy area, kind of some of the volatility that might be there in terms of visibility to your guidance, can you qualify that?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [36]

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So if you look across the business, our long-cycle businesses that are supplying commercial products for our customers continue to have very strong visibility to influence where we guide for the year.

We are seeing an increasing amount of revenue contribution from development services across the business, but those increases are coming from the ends of the market that are growing the fastest, being in the Biologics and gene therapy space. So that gives us a certain level of confidence as we enter the year in terms of where we guide to. And we tend to guide externally to figures that internally we are certainly driving above those. So we certainly have confidence through the midpoint of our guidance as we have in previous years. And I would just reiterate our visibility remains consistent across the long-cycle businesses with the growth on the development side coming from fast-growing ends of the market.

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Donald Houghton Hooker, KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - VP and Equity Research Analyst [37]

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Okay. I guess related to that, it sounded like you were maybe positively surprised from Juniper versus your internal expectations. Can you elaborate on what you think has gone better than expected there?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [38]

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Juniper has been performing, I would say, slightly above our expectations since we made the acquisition in the first quarter of the fiscal year. And so that certainly has remained strong throughout both with respect to, as we described previously, the CRINONE product that we supply in various markets as well as the development services that we perform for our customers for the development programs. And so it's a very important strategic element for the business as we look to capture more molecules and feed them through the rest of our network. And I think in combination with the upcoming closing of the Anagni facility as well as feeding into the rest of our oral solids network, where we're very pleased with the contribution of the business so far and its performance.

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Operator [39]

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Our next question comes from Juan Avendano with Bank of America.

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Juan Esteban Avendano, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Associate [40]

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My first question is on the Clinical Supply Services segment. I believe that for fiscal year '19, even excluding the negative impact from the adoption of ASC 606, I believe that organic growth was probably flattish, maybe a little bit negative, a decline. In response to an earlier question, you also said that the long-term organic growth rate of this segment is in the mid- to high single digits. And so given the dynamics of the slowing backlog conversion in CSS, I was wondering if you could just give us a little bit more color on how you expect to reaccelerate organic growth in this segment. And what's baked into your long-term guidance of mid- to high single-digit growth?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [41]

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Yes. So Juan, looking at the clinical business, we've certainly seen a slower burn to the backlog, the healthy backlog we built in this business. As I mentioned earlier, the business -- the earliest piece to be executed when we contract for work with our customers is the comparator revenue. And so in past years, we would have seen that uptick earlier because comparator would have been shown on a gross basis. But now it's on a net basis. It's effectively shifted that timing by about a couple of quarters.

And so while it's been slower, we've enjoyed the EBITDA growth in the business, which we maintained double-digit EBITDA growth throughout the year, which we're very pleased with as we utilize our capacity and we're seeing that uptick in the benefit of the comparator growth as well. It's just not -- it's just a bit muted at the top line.

So while we would have liked to see the burn start earlier, we understand why and we are starting to see that. As we sit here in the early part of FY '20, we're starting to see that burn of the backlog. And so we continue to be very pleased with the business. And again, long term, the dynamics in terms of clinical trials and our position with the global footprint to be able to manage and help our customers with their global clinical trials, we continue to be positioned well to have the growth expectations that we have long term.

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Juan Esteban Avendano, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Associate [42]

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Sure. Going into the BSDD segment. Before, I believe the split between Biologics and Specialty Drug Delivery was a 60-40 split. This was before Paragon. Given how poorly the specialty part did in fiscal year '19 and now with the inclusion of Paragon, can you give us an update on the revenue breakdown between Biologics and Specialty Drug Delivery in BSDD?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [43]

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So Juan, look, for fiscal '19, you can roughly estimate about a $30 million revenue contribution from Paragon. So that's not going to materially shift the number for '19 as you look at the total segment. You can see our assumptions from a fiscal '20 guidance perspective as well as what the contribution of Paragon is. I don't have the number right in front of me to quote you, but I think you can back into what that is with respect to the contribution. And I would just put Paragon into that core Biologics definition, if you will, as you do that math.

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Juan Esteban Avendano, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Associate [44]

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Okay. And lastly, over the last couple of years, you've given us a medium- to long-term outlook on the adjusted EBITDA margin expansion, something along the lines of like we expect X number of 100 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion over the next 2 to 3 years or 3 to 4 years. Given -- now with Paragon and all the investments that are taking place, would you give us a medium- to long-term guidance on adjusted EBITDA margin expansion over the next few years?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [45]

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So as we said in our prepared comments, we're seeing about a 150 basis point margin expansion in fiscal '20 if you assume the midpoint of our guidance. Mid to long term, we've said we expect to deliver between an incremental 200 to 300 basis point margin expansion over the next 2 to 3 years, which would be inclusive of FY '20. Clearly, we're seeing a nice uptick as we guide for '20. It's not linear in terms what we've said previously, and we continue to have those expectations.

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Operator [46]

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Our next question comes from Evan Stover with Robert W. Baird.

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Evan Arthur Stover, Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division - Senior Research Associate [47]

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If I look at the fiscal '20 guidance bridge and look at Paragon and then adding kind of the stub period that we got in the fourth quarter of '19, I think the implication is Paragon is going to do about $255 million to $260 million of revenue next year -- or this year, fiscal '20. I'm just wondering if you can tell me on a pro forma basis what that growth rate for Paragon looks like. And the thrust of my question really is to get a better idea of kind of the glide path down from recent 100% growth rates down to a 25%-plus kind of market growth rates that you've previously given us in that business.

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [48]

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Look, from a Paragon perspective, I would first say that your rough math is about right. Here's what we've said previously. We expected the business to -- the business did in calendar year '18 roughly $100 million of revenue. In calendar year '19, we said we were expecting the business to do $200 million of revenue. Clearly, that's ramping in the back half of calendar '19. I don't have the exact figure to quote you from a pro forma growth rate perspective. But clearly, this is what I would put in the bucket of hypergrowth that we continue to see in this business. And again, confirming that your rough math is roughly right in terms of the contribution in total for the year, and we've singled out what the inorganic portion of that is.

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Evan Arthur Stover, Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division - Senior Research Associate [49]

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Okay. Final question for me, a smaller one, the Braeside divestiture. I see it's a little bit of an EBITDA drag this year. That stands in contrast, I think, to the last round of Asia Pac divestitures you did where there were actually a slight EBITDA benefit. So I'm wondering if you can give me an idea of -- is that a conservative estimate there with potential for some upside? Or does the Braeside divestiture kind of differ maybe from the last round of divestitures you did in softgel?

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Wetteny N. Joseph, Catalent, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [50]

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Yes. So this is a little bit of a bigger operation. But as we've said and if you look at that bracket, it's actually EBITDA margin accretive. As we take out roughly $35 million of revenue with only about a $3 million EBITDA impact, so it's about a 10% number. So it will be EBITDA accretive and part of the 150 basis points margin expansion that we see in the year. So we continue to work diligently to transfer the products from the facility to elsewhere in the network. But I will say compared to the other which are substantially smaller in totality versus this one, the other ones, I think, we're roughly flat to slightly negative on EBITDA. This is roughly $3 million, which is a relatively modest EBITDA impact and, again, EBITDA margin accretive.

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Operator [51]

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And I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to John Chiminski for closing remarks.

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John R. Chiminski, Catalent, Inc. - Chairman & CEO [52]

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Thanks, operator, and thanks, everyone, for your questions, for taking the time to join our call. I'd like to close by reminding you of a few important points. First, we're committed to delivering fiscal year '20 results consistent with our financial guidance and are focused on continuing to drive organic growth across our overall business. Second, we're determined to continue to grow our world-class Biologics business as demonstrated by the $200 million of CapEx being deployed to further build out capacity and capability in our Madison and Bloomington sites and our May acquisition of Paragon and look forward to continue strong revenue and high-margin EBITDA growth from our biologics offerings.

Third, the continued successful and efficient integration of the Paragon business into the Catalent family is a top priority as we look to capitalize swiftly on our recent inorganic investments. We firmly believe the transaction enhances our biologics offerings, accelerates long-term growth and will lead to increased shareholder return. Fourth, expanding the adjusted EBITDA margin of our business is a key focus area for the management team as we drive towards 200 to 300 basis points of further expansion over the next 3 years.

Last but certainly not the least, operations, quality and regulatory excellence are at the heart of how we run our business and remain a constant focus and priority. We support every customer project with deep scientific expertise and a commitment to putting the patient first in all we do. Thank you.

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Operator [53]

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Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining and everyone have a wonderful day.