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Q2 2019 Foresight Energy LP Earnings Call

Saint Louis, Mo Aug 29, 2019 (Thomson StreetEvents) -- Edited Transcript of Foresight Energy LP earnings conference call or presentation Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 6:00:00pm GMT

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Corporate Participants

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* Jeremy J. Harrison

Foresight Energy LP - Principal Financial Officer & CAO of Foresight Energy GP LLC

* Robert D. Moore

Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC

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Conference Call Participants

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* Arthur Calavritinos;ANC Capital;Portfolio Manager

* John David Bridges

JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Senior Analyst

* Matthew Thomas Farwell

Imperial Capital, LLC, Research Division - MD

* Matthew Wyatt Fields

BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director

* Mayur Kenia

IWD Capital Management, LLC - Founder & Portfolio Manager

* Neil A. Weiner

Foxhill Capital Partners, LLC - Senior Managing Member

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Presentation

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Operator [1]

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Foresight Energy Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Chief Accounting Officer, Jeremy Harrison. Please go ahead.

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Jeremy J. Harrison, Foresight Energy LP - Principal Financial Officer & CAO of Foresight Energy GP LLC [2]

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Thank you, Katie. And welcome to Foresight Energy's Earnings Call for the Second Quarter 2019. With me today is Rob Moore, our President and Chief Executive Officer.

Today, we will discuss Foresight Energy's operating and financial results for the second quarter of 2019 and update you on the current operations at our coal mines. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call to your questions.

Please note that this call contains forward-looking statements that are based upon our current expectations and beliefs concerning future developments and their potential effect on us, and there can be no assurance that the future developments affecting us will be those that we anticipate. Our business and our financial results involve risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from management's current expectations. For additional information regarding such risk, please see our annual and quarterly reports filed with the SEC and posted on our website.

During the call today, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including guidance with respect to expected adjusted EBITDA. Please refer to our earnings release for reconciliations to the most comparable generally accepted accounting principles for historical periods.

Also, this call includes only information that is available to us at this time. To the extent you are listening to this call at a later date via replay, please note that the information may be outdated or incomplete. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements after the date they are made, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law.

I will now turn the call over to Rob Moore. Rob?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [3]

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Thank you, Jeremy. I'd like to begin by first expressing my condolences and the condolences of everyone at Foresight Energy to the families of Chris and Kameron Cline. Those of you that knew Chris, he was fiercely loyal to all that knew him in the coal industry. He was truly a tremendous individual that will be missed, but always remembered and respected.

Turning our attention to Foresight's financial results. This quarter continued to present several challenges. Overall, coal demand remains soft due to very low natural gas prices and mild temperatures here domestically.

Water levels remained high throughout the river systems and swift currents at the Convent Marine Terminal near the gulf continued to cause vessel-loading restrictions, reduced draft levels, limitation on vessel sizes and limitations on vessel movements.

Illustrating these difficulties during attempted loading of a baby-cape vessel, 8 tugs were required to hold the ship against the current, while morning lines were still snapping.

In addition to these logistical challenges, export prices remained depressed throughout the quarter with API2 levels dropping into the high 40s for several days.

Challenged with these adversities, Foresight sold approximately 5 million tons of thermal coal and generated total revenue of nearly $227 million, which resulted in adjusted EBITDA of $45.1 million.

Understandably at these volume on pricing levels, the results for each of these measures are declines over the prior year's second quarter results.

Production remained strong during the quarter, with the mines safely and efficiently producing 5.4 million tons. This compares to 6.1 million tons in the most recent quarter ending March 31 and 5.4 million tons in the second quarter of 2018.

During the quarter, we completed the 2 longwall moves at our Sugar Camp complex for both the M Class and Viking mines. The first of these moves was completed in early April with the second move completed in early May. Following these longwall moves, we have one additional move scheduled in late 2019 at Williamson's mock mine. We expect that to be a 0-day walk across move.

Our mines continue to maintain their position among the most productive underground mines in the country as measured on a clean ton per man-hour work basis.

Our 2 longwall complexes, Sugar Camp and Williamson, ranked as the first and second most productive large underground mines in the United States, generating 11.1 and 11 tons per man-hour work, respectively. On a combined basis, the Foresight operations produced nearly 9.9 tons per man-hour worked during the second quarter. This compares to the national averages for underground mines of 4.8 tons per man-hour worked. These high levels of productivity allowed us to maintain a low cost of $24.64 per ton sold, with approximately $0.75 per ton related to the development of a longwall panel at Hillsboro's Deer Run Mine.

During the second quarter of 2019, we exported nearly 1.7 million tons or over 33% of our total sales volumes. As mentioned previously, Foresight's export system was challenged by high and swift water conditions on the Mississippi River and the continuation of loading restrictions at Convent Marine Terminal. This resulted in the over 600,000 tons of coal inventory that we have in storage at that facility today. The most recent river conditions forecasts should allow for some modest improvement in vessel loading for the second half of the year.

However. API2 prices remain depressed due to strong renewable power generation, depressed LNG and natural gas prices in Europe and globally and significant exports of Russian coal into Europe. We have seen some uptick in API2 in recent weeks due to better temperatures in Europe, improved gas and power prices and anticipated cutbacks from producers in Russia. However, we're not certain that this represents a significant upward trend in the near term.

Domestic coal markets remained subdued as a result of lack of generation demand due to mild temperatures and low natural gas prices.

Updating you on the efforts at our Hillsboro complex. We continue to develop longwall gate entries to allow for potential resumption of longwall mining at the Deer Run Mine. We are currently operating the continuous miner unit 4 days per week at 1 ship per day. Additionally, we have now obtained all necessary approvals from MSHA to recommence longwall mining operations. Indeed, we have been testing the Hillsboro product at a number of the domestic coal-fired units with success.

With respect to our Hillsboro insurance recoveries, we continue to pursue all remedies available under our insurance policies related to the combustion event due to the ongoing litigation with the insurers. That will be the extent of any public comments related to Hillsboro insurance matters at this time.

At this point, I'll turn the call over to Jeremy for further discussion of our second quarter financial results.

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Jeremy J. Harrison, Foresight Energy LP - Principal Financial Officer & CAO of Foresight Energy GP LLC [4]

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During the second quarter, we recognized coal sales revenue of $224.5 million on sales revenue of 5 million tons, which generated adjusted EBITDA of $45.1 million. This compares to nearly $270 million of coal sales revenue on 5.9 million tons sold, which generated adjusted EBITDA of $104.1 million during the prior year second quarter.

The decrease in coal sales revenue was driven by the decrease in volumes sold combined with the 2.5% decrease on a realized price per ton. The decreases in coal sales volumes and realizations were the result of reduced exports due to the challenging logistical conditioning -- conditions and overall lower export pricing. Consequently, adjusted EBITDA was impacted by these lower volumes and realizations.

You'll also recall in the prior year second quarter, adjusted EBITDA included $44.1 million of insurance proceeds related to the combustion event at Hillsboro.

Our operating mines do continue to be among the most productive underground mines in the country with 5.4 million tons produced during the quarter and our cash costs remaining in the low $20.

Compared to the second quarter of 2018, transportation costs during the second quarter of 2019 decreased by approximately $9.2 million. This decrease is driven by overall volumes of tons sold during the quarter combined with a higher proportion of sales volumes shipped in the export market during the prior year period. These decreases were slightly offset by increased costs owning to a higher river levels at the Convent Marine Terminal.

Finally, from a cash flow perspective, during the second quarter of 2019, we used $8.3 million of cash in operations owing to the challenges we faced. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of nearly $3 million and total available borrowing capacity on our revolver of $44.7 million.

Capital expenditures totaled $26.9 million and we paid down nearly $32 million on our long-term debt and capital lease obligations, which included a $19.6 million payment related to our excess cash flow sweep provisions and $9.3 million to pay off our Sugar Camp longwall financing arrangement.

With that, I'll turn the call back over to Rob for additional comments before we take your questions.

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [5]

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As a result of our operating and financial results for the second quarter of 2019 and current and expected market conditions, we are updating our guidance for sales volumes, adjusted EBITDA and capital expenditures.

Based on our current contracted position and outlook for the domestic and export coal markets, we expect 2019 sales volumes to total between 21 million and 22 million tons, with at least 6 million tons being sold to the export market.

At these volumes, we expect to generate adjusted EBITDA ranging between $240 million to $270 million. And based on our current operating plans and recent capital spending, we expect 2019 annual capital expenditures to total between $75 million and $85 million, including projected spending at Hillsboro.

That concludes our prepared remarks. And with that, I will turn the call back over to our operator, Katie, and we'll take questions. Katie?

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Questions and Answers

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Operator [1]

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(Operator Instructions) And our first question comes from the line of Matthew Fields with Bank of America.

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Matthew Wyatt Fields, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director [2]

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It seems like year-to-date, your deliveries to plants in the Illinois Basin and adjacent kind of states are doing okay, but your Southeastern plants are taking significantly less. Can you just talk about maybe a couple of your important plants like Chris across -- in South Carolina and sort of the developments that they are doing on maybe shutting down the boiler or doing more natural gas switching?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [3]

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Yes. In terms of first half deliveries, Matt, I mean, in reality our deliveries to customers in that region are down maybe 300,000, 400,000 tons total. And that's a result of some planned maintenance that certain of our customers had planned for over that period. We expect them to make those volumes up over the back half of the year. And in fact, certain of those customers have already added the equipment in to increase shipments over the back half of the year.

We have heard that certain of our customers are looking to move in that region, one in particular to gas at the end of 2020 time frame, but I don't see that as having a significant effect on the volumes and that's not a huge account for us. So I'm not looking at that as a material development. First half of the year is where I expected it to be in terms of our domestic customers. And where we're short, I expect them to make it up and we're seeing that happening right now.

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Matthew Wyatt Fields, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director [4]

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Okay. Great. And then did I hear that right you got the permit to operate the longwall mine in -- at the longwall unit in Hillsboro? So is that right?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [5]

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You did hear that correct.

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Matthew Wyatt Fields, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director [6]

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So is the longwall equipment that's still down there presumably in okay shape and -- how easily is it -- can you get that longwall back up and running?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [7]

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No. You'll recall that, that longwall was sealed in and that is the basis of our claim with our insurance. So that longwall equipment is not available and that's something that we have to resolve.

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Matthew Wyatt Fields, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director [8]

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So is the idea to keep using continuous mining for the foreseeable future?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [9]

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No. No. We are working towards a plan that would allow us to potentially resume longwall mining operations at Hillsboro, although we're going to be, as I said before, strategic about how we do that and when we do that.

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Matthew Wyatt Fields, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director [10]

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Okay. And the guidance that you updated implies based on your first half $130 million to $160 million of EBITDA in the second half compared to $110 million in the first. Given where we know API2 prices are, how are you sort of reconciling the market improvement you're calling for in the second half?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [11]

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Well, we do have a pretty significant domestic book. As I said, I think during our last call and here again today, we expect to do about 6 million tons into the export. We're already at 4 million tons of export. So we don't have a lot of exposure on the export this time. However, I do believe that we could see some uptick on the API2 in that fourth quarter time frame. I don't think it's going to be a situation where we see prices really take off. I think it's going to be a gradual increase based on our guidance on the current forwards, but I do believe there's some upside to those forwards.

As it relates to the real impact on EBITDA, it's really the cost side of our business where we have been a little higher cost first half of the year with the 2 longwall moves. We had some difficult conditions in M Class that we battled through that affected us for probably a 2- to 3-week period. Those conditions have improved and we don't see anything that's going to impact us. And those conditions were associated with really the start-up of that longwall panel that we moved into there in the May time frame. With that behind us, these mines are poised to run at a really low cost the rest of this year.

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Matthew Wyatt Fields, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director [12]

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And are you anticipating lower transportation costs in that guidance number too?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [13]

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There will be lower transportation costs just based on the sales mix and what's going to the export and what's going over to the river. Once we surpass a certain level of exports, then we do see a nice reduction in the throughput rates that's associated with our logistics chain going to the export market.

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Matthew Wyatt Fields, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director [14]

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Okay. Great. And then just a couple on the balance sheet. Based on the current agreement, it's our understanding you don't have a whole lot of RP capacity to buy back bonds. Can you please confirm what your ability is to buy back your second lien?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [15]

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We have around $25 million of RP capacity that's available. There are a few builder baskets in there that give us a little more juice, but it's around $25 million.

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Matthew Wyatt Fields, BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Director [16]

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Great. And then lastly from me. The revolver covenant is 3.5x net first lien. Given your guidance, you're going to get pretty close. Do you have a plan on how to maybe address that, get that relaxed? Or how do you plan on dealing with that covenant?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [17]

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Well, I don't think we're going to be in a situation where we trip that covenant through the end of the calendar year. And we're going to continue to monitor and manage our way through that issue.

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Operator [18]

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And our next question comes from the line of [Mary Lee] with Investor Network.

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comes from the line of John Bridges with JPMorgan.

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John David Bridges, JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Senior Analyst [19]

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I was just curious Hillsboro has had fires in the past, and I understand. I just wondered if you're putting in any new policy, strategies, whatever to reduce the risk going forward or manage any further combustion events? Just curious.

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [20]

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The plan that we have put in place is a bleeder-less entry system. There are engineering controls that will help identify any issues that we have. I don't know that you can ever prevent something like that, but we are definitely taking the steps that we believe are needed to ensure safe operations at Hillsboro and reduces the possibility of a recurrence.

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Operator [21]

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And our next question comes from the line of Kenia Mayur with IWD Capital Management.

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Mayur Kenia, IWD Capital Management, LLC - Founder & Portfolio Manager [22]

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I had a couple. One was, do you have a rough estimate of what the unrestricteds of Hillsboro's effect was on EBITDA?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [23]

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It's about $0.75 per ton on roughly 5 million tons.

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Mayur Kenia, IWD Capital Management, LLC - Founder & Portfolio Manager [24]

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Okay. And then in terms of Hillsboro, if you guys did end up bringing Hillsboro back online, would you shift production from other high-cost mines due to the sub-$20 cost? Or would they just be incremental?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [25]

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So that's a question that we got last time. And I think if people study the cost structure, Sugar Camp complex is capable of operating at that same level as Hillsboro and we're seeing that. Williamson is capable of operating at that level and we're seeing that. So I look at Hillsboro as incremental to what we have.

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Mayur Kenia, IWD Capital Management, LLC - Founder & Portfolio Manager [26]

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Okay. That makes sense. And then, I know you guys have answered this question in the past, but I'll just reask it again. How much incremental capital will be required to kind of get the longwall started at Hillsboro, assuming including shields? And is financing currently available to you guys if you want it to restart?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [27]

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Yes. For a system that is identical to what we lost, we're looking at somewhere around $100 million plus for that system. So there are ways to finance that and that's what we're looking at.

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Mayur Kenia, IWD Capital Management, LLC - Founder & Portfolio Manager [28]

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Okay. And then shifting gears to the sort of export market. In terms of logistics, is there any sort of sharing of cost with the take-or-pay contract due to the inability to ship export tons at the port facility?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [29]

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The contract does provide for some sharing, for example, when draft levels are not at the optimal levels, which are 47 feet. There is some sharing there. There is also some sharing of the pilot tug costs, et cetera.

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Mayur Kenia, IWD Capital Management, LLC - Founder & Portfolio Manager [30]

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Okay. That's helpful. And then sort of a more broader question. Do you guys think in terms of the Illinois Basin, would the Illinois Basin benefit from any additional consolidation?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [31]

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Yes. I believe that every basin would.

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Mayur Kenia, IWD Capital Management, LLC - Founder & Portfolio Manager [32]

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Okay. And then, I guess, my last question is, could you guys give us an updated balance on where like the arrears are on the common unit currently?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [33]

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The arrears on the commons through the second quarter are right about $360 million.

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Operator [34]

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And our next question comes from the line of Matt Farwell with Imperial Capital.

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Matthew Thomas Farwell, Imperial Capital, LLC, Research Division - MD [35]

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Could you just comment on your 2020 contract book? And whether or not you believe you can sell 22 million tons next year based on how you see things today?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [36]

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Yes. Right now, Matt, I've got about half of the book signed up and I don't see any reason why we can't get to those levels.

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Matthew Thomas Farwell, Imperial Capital, LLC, Research Division - MD [37]

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In terms of the netbacks that you're seeing, I think you mentioned in the last call sort of low 30s, high 20s. Is that what you're seeing now? And are you looking at sending coal into Asia? Or you're still focused on API2 market?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [38]

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We are shipping coal everywhere that we can find a home for it, Matt. I mean we're moving coal into South America. We're moving coal into Asia. We're still moving coal into Europe. The netbacks on the export side are not at those levels today that they were when we last spoke. Those netbacks are less and that's why you're seeing us only push out another 2 million tons over the rest of this year with more than -- call it, half of that already being hedged. So that's what we're seeing right now. The netbacks are not at that level.

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Matthew Thomas Farwell, Imperial Capital, LLC, Research Division - MD [39]

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If the international market is not strong next year and you think you can place the same amount of volumes, I guess that implies that you're planning to take share in the U.S. or in domestic markets or with domestic customers or with other plants you haven't sold to before. Can you elaborate on what might happen domestically?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [40]

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Well, we are being -- we're pretty successful right now in terms of taking RFPs that are out there and we continue to push our product into markets that we haven't been in historically. And we are seeing success there.

So as I've told people with these assets that we have, we can compete against every other basin out there and with -- where we're able to produce. That gives us a benefit in terms of getting our coal into plants. If these export markets aren't there, then we're poised to take domestic share. And that's what we're going to do.

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Matthew Thomas Farwell, Imperial Capital, LLC, Research Division - MD [41]

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Great. At your existing customers, the generation was lower in the quarter. How is their inventory position looking?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [42]

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Could you repeat that, Matt? I don't...

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Matthew Thomas Farwell, Imperial Capital, LLC, Research Division - MD [43]

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Sorry. How is their -- your existing customers -- you continue to ship coal, but their generation -- their consumption was obviously lower in the quarter. Are there -- are you seeing your customer inventories reaching more normal levels? Or do you see them in a deficient state?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [44]

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They're at normal levels. And I think if you just look at how they have gone about their procurement, this is kind of what they've planned for. And we're still able to sell the 20 million, 22 million tons, albeit there's 6 million going export. But based on what we're seeing, we're able to develop new markets for next year with inventories at normal level.

So I'm not seeing where anyone's being deficient in terms of where they're at inventory-wise. I think everyone would agree that coal generators are all pressured right now, just given where nat gas has been and we've not had great weather. It was hot for a couple of weeks, but it's not been consistent over the country. And with gas where it's at, it's going to be challenging. The capacity rates on these plants are going to be something that people watch.

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Matthew Thomas Farwell, Imperial Capital, LLC, Research Division - MD [45]

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Right. In terms of the third quarter, were you affected? I know the river levels were high in July. Were you -- are you going to be affected by that in the third quarter as well?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [46]

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Yes. Yes. The river levels continue to be high. Our draft levels just this past weekend were moved from 44 to 45 feet. That's still 2 feet below where we want to be. That affects the amount of volume we can put into vessels. There are still restrictions at Southwest Pass, where vessels cannot move other than during daylight hours. So we hope that those are going to be lifted soon. But yes, we're going to be impacted in Q3.

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Matthew Thomas Farwell, Imperial Capital, LLC, Research Division - MD [47]

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With your fairly sizeable revolver draw in the quarter, your liquidity is tighter. What -- are there other sources of liquidity that we're not thinking of that we should be aware of?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [48]

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No. I think that people know where we can gain liquidity and that's what we have available to us. I think we have some good partners that we work with and there may be ways to improve liquidity by working with our partners. And we'll -- obviously, we're going to be evaluating any opportunity we can.

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Operator [49]

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(Operator Instructions) We'll go to the next line of Neil Weiner with Foxhill Capital Partners.

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Neil A. Weiner, Foxhill Capital Partners, LLC - Senior Managing Member [50]

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Can you just give a little more granularity on your guidance in the second half? How you get to the $130 million, $160 million in the second half, if you said you can't predict where API2 is going to be? Or let me ask it a different way, what level of API2 does that implicitly price in?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [51]

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Yes. I don't think I said I couldn't predict. I said based on our guidance. I was using current forwards for API2, but I expected to see improvement over that. And I also indicated that we expected to see significant cost improvement at the operations, given that we've got the 2 longwall moves out of the way. We're not dealing with the conditions in M Class that we had been in May during the start-up of that longwall. So you should see a pretty significant drop in the cost over the second half of the year of the operations and the forwards on the API2 are what we're using today for the guidance.

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Neil A. Weiner, Foxhill Capital Partners, LLC - Senior Managing Member [52]

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So you're using what the forward curve is currently for guidance?

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [53]

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That is correct.

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Operator [54]

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Next question comes from the line of Arthur Calavritinos with ANC Capital.

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Arthur Calavritinos;ANC Capital;Portfolio Manager, [55]

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Just a question earlier on consolidation. You said to the question you're looking at everything that makes sense. I forgot what you said. And when I look at Peabody do their deal with Arch, it wasn't making consolidation in the classic sense when a company buys another. It was like a joint venture. Are you -- any thoughts you have on any type of the structure like that in the basin that you're in? If you could talk to that, that would be -- just give your thoughts.

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [56]

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Sure. Sure. I think that -- as I said earlier, I think all basins could benefit from strategic combinations, whether it be through merger in the traditional form or through JV opportunities. And I think there are more entities that are evaluating and considering those types of transactions. I think people recognize that there is benefit to those types of combinations. So we're not actively engaged in any discussions, but it's something that I think, as an industry, people are looking at more frequently than they have in the past. And we'll see what transpires over the next 3 to 12 months, but I would expect to see some additional consolidation in this space.

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Arthur Calavritinos;ANC Capital;Portfolio Manager, [57]

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Okay. And then just a financial follow-up on an earlier question. The restricted -- the amount of bonds you could buy was $25 million. That's $25 million, not par? I mean given -- right, just so I understand that right.

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [58]

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That's $25 million total, whatever that would shy based on trading. Yes, that's right.

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Operator [59]

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(Operator Instructions) There are no further questions. Please continue.

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Robert D. Moore, Foresight Energy LP - Chairman, CEO & President of Foresight Energy GP LLC [60]

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Okay. I would like to thank everyone for joining us this afternoon. We look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Thank you.

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Operator [61]

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