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Q4 2019 Neenah Inc Earnings Call

Alpharetta Feb 27, 2020 (Thomson StreetEvents) -- Edited Transcript of Neenah Inc earnings conference call or presentation Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 4:00:00pm GMT

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Corporate Participants

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* Bonnie J. Cruickshank-Lind

Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, CFO & Treasurer

* John P. O'Donnell

Neenah, Inc. - CEO, President & Director

* Julie A. Schertell

Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, COO & Director

* William B. McCarthy

Neenah, Inc. - VP of Financial Analysis & IR

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Conference Call Participants

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* Jonathan E. Tanwanteng

CJS Securities, Inc. - MD

* Steven Pierre Chercover

D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst

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Presentation

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Operator [1]

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Good day, and welcome to the Neenah Q4 and Full Year 2019 Earnings Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Bill McCarthy, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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William B. McCarthy, Neenah, Inc. - VP of Financial Analysis & IR [2]

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Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Neenah's 2019 Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. Joining with me today on the call are Chief Executive Officer, John O'Donnell; Julie Schertell, our Chief Operating Officer; and Chief Financial Officer, Bonnie Lind. John, Julie and Bonnie will provide comments on business and financial results for the fourth quarter and the past year. And after these prepared remarks, we'll open up the call for questions.

As usual, I'll start with a few headlines. Fourth quarter sales were $214 million, down from the prior year as a result of soft market demand, the divestiture of a fine paper mill in late 2018 and a midyear change with a major fine paper distributor. Margins and earnings, however, increased significantly in the quarter. Adjusted earnings per share of $0.87 grew 64% from $0.53 a year ago, while GAAP earnings of $0.92 per share rose 21%. Details on adjusting items for both the quarter and full year along with a reconciliation to comparable GAAP figures are included in our press release.

In closing, I'll note that our comments today include forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ from these statements due to uncertainties and risks outlined both on our website and in our SEC filings. With that, I'd like to turn things over to John.

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John P. O'Donnell, Neenah, Inc. - CEO, President & Director [3]

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Thanks, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Looking back at 2019, I'm very pleased with what our teams accomplished. With external factors challenging demand in many of our markets, our teams were focused on items within their control. These included implementing long-term strategic decisions that will make us stronger in the years to come as well as actions that had a more immediate positive impact in the year. The success of these activities can be seen in our results.

First and foremost, we reinvigorated safety efforts and ended the year with our lowest quarterly recordable incident rate in almost 2 years. We delivered record free cash flow of $76 million and used this to reduce debt by almost $40 million and returned $37 million of cash to shareholders through an increased dividend and modest share repurchases. We carefully managed costs and pricing activities and exited the year, as promised, on a more normalized basis with operating margins increasing over 400 basis points and finishing the year at double digits.

And last but not least, return on invested capital, a key metric for us, also improved, rising about 30 basis points. While this metric has been pressured, it's always remained well ahead of our cost of capital and we're now near targeted double-digit levels.

As we start off 2020, one of the things I'm most encouraged about is the potential of our new organizational structure. As you may recall, in December, we announced a functional reporting alignment with our global head of sales and marketing as well as our global head of operations reporting to Julie as Chief Operating Officer. The intent of this change is to provide added focus to accelerate our top line growth rate and improve the speed and quality of our operational performance. For example, in sales, this change will allow our R&D teams to better utilize our many technical capabilities to unlock the potential of our global customers, while in operations, it will facilitate the global implementation of a Neenah operating system to drive continued improvements in safety, customer satisfaction, asset efficiencies and cost reductions.

You're probably aware, there was another recent organizational announcement that is a little closer to home for me. I'll talk about that later in the call, but now I'm pleased to introduce our Chief Operating Officer, Julie Schertell.

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Julie A. Schertell, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, COO & Director [4]

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Thank you, John. It's my pleasure to join you and Bonnie on today's call. I'd like to begin by talking about some of the results and activities underway in each of our business segments.

In Fine Paper & Packaging, our team took a number of actions to strengthen our leading market position, restore and protect margins and position us better for the future. These included the sale of an unprofitable and nonstrategic mill in Brattleboro, Vermont, at the end of 2018. And more recently, a significant change in our relationship with a major distributor that was underperforming. While both actions negatively impacted the top line in 2019, they were clearly the right long-term moves.

Regarding the distributor repositioning, this began in the third quarter, and we've seen a positive response both from the market and in the performance of other distributors who represent our most valued fine paper brands. This has reaffirmed our confidence that the change will result in better support of our brands and, consequently, better business results.

We've got several other initiatives underway to drive the top line in this segment. Recent premium packaging innovation efforts have delivered more environmentally preferred products as customers increasingly look for alternatives to plastic. We're seeing growing demand for our paper-based gift cards and are well positioned in this category with a unique asset and innovative market solutions.

We're also launching a recyclable, wide format signage portfolio that is an environmental alternative to competitive made styrene products and provides lower cost and use for customers. In addition to these packaging efforts, we're making new commercial print products with sustainable fibers to meet market needs. Most recently introducing hemp-based products. And we are improving our supply chain capabilities to reduce lead times and improve order management, engagement and efficiencies with all of our customers.

Looking to the bottom line, we've continued to aggressively manage costs in all areas. This included idling a fine paper machine early in the third quarter and moving volume to other available assets, helping to generate savings of roughly $1 million a year. In the second half of 2019, profitability improved significantly with operating margins returning to historical mid-teen levels for this segment.

Turning to Technical Products. With almost 60% of our sales outside of the U.S., we saw top line challenges in 2019 with weakness in global economies. The biggest impact has been lower backing sales to Asia as volumes were pressured by rising nationalism, a strong U.S. dollar and ongoing tariff concerns. Industrial backings remains a solid baseload business for us, though our focus is on categories and markets that provide more attractive growth and margin profiles. Filtration is certainly one of those attractive markets and an important growth platform for Neenah.

Transportation is our largest filtration category. While more than 80% of sales are recurring for replacement filters, results in 2019 reflected caution by our customers due to the economic slowdown across Europe and notably in the German auto industry. Our outlook for this business remains very positive, and as we continue to ramp up North American capacity, we expect to continue to deliver our historical above-market top line growth rates supported by our best-in-class assets, market-leading portfolio and strategic customer relationships.

In 2019, our team made significant progress improving yields and operating efficiencies at our U.S. operation. And we utilized available machine time to begin developing and launching a new low-emission filter media. This new product is environmentally friendly and outperforms current regulatory requirements in anticipation of elevated future needs. While still very early in qualifications, we're seeing a very positive response from customers.

Transportation filtration often gets the headlines, but I'd be remiss if I didn't mention water filtration. This category had a great year in 2019 with revenues up 20%. In 2020, we're making a small capital-efficient investment to upgrade an existing asset that will almost double our available capacity.

Our innovation efforts extend to other Technical Product categories besides filtration. In 2020, we'll launch Texcol, our digital transfer brand that uses proprietary technology to transfer images onto natural fibers like cotton through a waterless process. This new process eliminates complex pre and post-treatments of textiles, reducing cost in use and carbon footprint while providing superior colors and printability. We expect this technology to potentially double the size of our addressable market for digital transfer papers.

Another example is our new DISPERSA performance label product. This looks and feels like a traditional label, but dissolves rapidly in water, providing operational efficiencies, primarily for customers in food service applications.

So while external market conditions were soft in 2019, our team is actively focused on doing the right things, developing innovative new products to support future growth and continuing to closely monitor and manage cost and pricing activities. We exited the year with good momentum and with products in place that position us well for the future.

I'll come back later in the call to discuss 2020 priorities and our outlook. But now I'll turn things over to Bonnie to cover financial results in more detail.

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Bonnie J. Cruickshank-Lind, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, CFO & Treasurer [5]

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Thanks, Julie. Good morning, everyone. The fourth quarter results again reflected improving margins and good cash generation. I'll review financial results for each of our business segments and then finish with comments on corporate items and 2020 expectations.

In Technical Products, quarterly sales of $124 million were down from $134 million in the fourth quarter of 2018. More than half of this decline was due to lower industrial backings in Asia resulting from rising nationalism and trade disputes in 2019. Currency translation due to a weaker euro also contributed $2 million to the decline. Partly offsetting these items were a higher value sales mix and higher net selling prices. The improved sales mix reflected increased sales of our filtration products. Operating income was $11.3 million in 2019, up from $6.7 million in the prior year, with margins increasing over 300 basis points. After excluding adjusting items in both periods, income in 2019 rose $3.6 million or almost 60% as a result of improved manufacturing efficiencies, the more profitable mix and lower input costs.

Now moving to Fine Paper & Packaging. Quarterly sales of $90 million were down from $106 million in 2018. About 1/3 of the decline resulted from the Brattleboro mill divestiture, with the rest due to lower commercial print volumes, which was impacted by weaker market demand and the distributor change we previously mentioned. Partly offsetting this were higher year-on-year selling prices and modest growth in premium packaging. GAAP operating income of $15.2 million increased from $14.1 million in 2018, which included a $3 million benefit from a favorable adjustment to the Brattleboro impairment loss. After excluding adjusting items, operating income in 2019 was $15.6 million, which is up $4.6 million from the prior year, primarily due to the net favorable impact from input costs and selling prices. Adjusted operating margins in the quarter were 17% and on the upper end of our expected mid teen range.

Moving on to corporate items. Consolidated SG&A was $23 million, which is up $3 million from 2018, due mostly to timing and amounts of incentive accruals. In 2018, the fourth quarter included a large decrease to our accrual as business results in the quarter weakened. Unallocated corporate SG&A expense of $4.4 million was up around $1 million from the prior year and for the same reasons. Quarterly interest expense was $2.8 million, consistent with the third quarter and down from $3.2 million in the prior year. Expense was lower due both to less outstanding debt and lower average interest rates in 2019.

Debt at the end of the year was just over $200 million. That's down $4 million in the quarter and down almost $40 million from the start of the year. Most of our debt is made up of $175 million senior unsecured note with the balance in short-term euro-denominated borrowings from our global revolving credit facility. The senior note is due in May of 2021, and we'll refinance this in the next couple of months. I'll talk more about that later in part of the outlook.

Next, our tax rate in the fourth quarter was 19%. The rate increase versus 2018 when we benefited from a remeasurement of overseas tax liability following a reduction in rates in the Netherlands. Our cash tax rate is a positive story and should be in the low teens in the near term, primarily due to available prior period R&D credits that we expect to consume over the next few years.

Ongoing cash contributions and payments to our pension and retirement plans were up $2 million in the fourth quarter, but down $8 million for the full year. In 2018, we increased and accelerated cash contributions to take advantage of some tax benefits. 2019 total cash outlays were approximately $13 million, a level that reflects plants that are well-funded and maintained. This spending was about $4 million higher than expense.

Cash from operations in the quarter was $23 million and capital spending was $8 million. We continued to generate substantial free cash flow in the quarter and, as John noted, delivered record free cash flow for the full year.

Now let's look at a few items that are likely to impact our 2020 results. First, we expect SG&A to average $25 million per quarter and unallocated corporate costs to be around $5 million per quarter. Both of these are consistent with our past guidance. As we grow, we expect to realize scale efficiencies, which, along with top line growth initiatives and cost improvements, should contribute to improving margins. Pension and other post-retirement benefit expense will be about $1 million higher in 2020 as a result of lower discounts rates used to calculate our liabilities, and cash funding is also expected to be up by $1 million.

Next, interest expense may increase in 2020 when we renew our senior note, depending on the size and the interest rate. And then finally, our ongoing book tax rate should be around the 22% that we previously guided. In 2019, our 17% rate was below this due to adjustments to tax reserves following successful conclusion of tax audits and expiration of limits.

While some of the items I mentioned may be slight headwinds in 2020, I feel really good about the overall condition and direction of the businesses and the actions we're taking to drive top and bottom growth and increase our return on capital. We generate substantial cash flow, which provides options and opportunities, and we have cleared capital deployment priorities and disciplined internal processes that help us execute well. In addition to supporting value-added organic and M&A investments, our balanced capital deployment allows us to return cash to our shareholders through an attractive and growing dividend, while maintaining our commitment to a strong balance sheet.

With that, I'd like to turn it back to you, Julie, so you can talk about 2020.

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Julie A. Schertell, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, COO & Director [6]

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Thank you, Bonnie. I'll begin by recapping 3 of our top priorities as we start the year. First is continued improvement in our safety performance. As John noted, we ended the year with one of our safest quarters in a long time. However, for the full year, we were still far from our world-class performance expectations.

In 2020, we'll continue to build out our safety management and hazard identification systems, and we'll be engaging with DuPont Sustainable Solutions to learn from and implement their proven methodologies. Nothing is more important than ensuring our coworkers return home injury-free to their families each and every day.

Next is accelerating our sustainable top line growth rate. We'll continue to pursue the organic opportunities we have in attractive, growing markets like filtration, digital transfer and premium packaging. I shared earlier some of the success from our innovation efforts and the new products that we're launching. It's important to our organic growth efforts to maintain a vital innovation pipeline, and I'm very pleased with the progress we're demonstrating in this area.

In addition to organic activities, we pursue acquisitions in growing and defensible categories that will add to our growth rate. I've been highly involved in our M&A process, which remains very active. We're focused primarily in technical products where there are opportunities to broaden our portfolio of specialty materials and technologies to meet the needs of an expanding customer base. With any potential acquisition, we ensure there is a clear strategic fit and touch points with our core competencies, and we have a disciplined process to make sure that our investment generates attractive financial returns.

Our third strategic priority in 2020 is to deliver meaningful manufacturing performance improvements. Under the leadership of our Global Head of Operations, we're in the process of developing a Neenah operating system and expect to implement a new continuous improvement approach at our 2 largest facilities by year-end. While Neenah has always had programs to deliver cost savings every year, I'm confident that we'll unlock even more opportunities in the future with a consistent approach utilizing different tools and methodologies.

Finally, I'd like to wrap up with a few comments on our outlook for this year. The first half of this year typically -- the first half of the year is typically seasonally stronger, especially in Technical Products. While year-on-year sales comparisons will be softened by the reduction in sales to Asia that began in early 2019 and as we complete our transition of fine paper distribution, bottom line comparisons should benefit from today's lower input costs versus early 2019.

Currency translation appears to be a modest headwind with the euro, our biggest exposure, now trading around $1.08, down from $1.14 at the start of 2019. As noted in the press release, each $0.05 differential reduces our annual sales by around $10 million with an associated EPS impact of approximately $0.10.

Input costs are expected to gradually rise throughout 2020, though for the record, we don't expect a significant run-up in prices like we saw in 2018. As we've demonstrated, we can manage cost and pricing to offset variations in input costs over time, and they ultimately aren't a meaningful driver of our results.

Our focus on capital efficiency is unchanged, and we continue to carefully manage both working capital and capital spending. Capital spending going forward is expected to be in the range of 2% to 4% of sales, slightly lower than our previous guidance and more in line with recent levels. Maintenance CapEx is less than half of our total spending as we spend the majority of our capital on projects that deliver attractive returns, either through cost reduction or enabling profitable growth like the enhancements to the water filtration asset I mentioned earlier. In 2020, we expect capital spending of approximately $30 million, right in the middle of our stated range.

In closing, I'd like to say how excited I am about what I see ahead for Neenah. Our employees, our assets, our culture and our products are first class. And our strong financial position and disciplined approach allow us to act on opportunities that will add value for our shareholders.

I look forward to getting to know many of you on today's call better in the years ahead, and will now turn it back to John to wrap up.

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John P. O'Donnell, Neenah, Inc. - CEO, President & Director [7]

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Thank you, Julie. I recently announced my retirement as President and CEO of Neenah, effective in May. We've diligently worked on succession planning activities during the past couple of years, and I'm extremely confident in Julie's ability to successfully lead Neenah. I'm committed to working closely with her over the next few months as we complete the final steps of the plan to ensure a seamless transition.

It's been an honor and a pleasure to lead this company the past 10 years. Over the past decade, Neenah has delivered returns to our shareholders of almost 20% annually as we executed strategies to transform into a more profitable and growing specialty materials company. While external conditions make some years more challenging than others, as you saw in 2019, our teams continue to move forward. As evidenced, the record cash flows, improved margins and enhanced innovation pipeline delivered in the past year did not just happen by accident.

Neenah is in a very good place today. Our competitive standing is solid, our financial position strong, and we have a number of catalysts and capabilities in place to propel growth into the future.

Importantly, Neenah also has a deep and experienced leadership team and outstanding employees that have shown they understand what it takes to win. I'm grateful for my time here and for the support I've received through the year from our shareholders, our dedicated employees and our Board of Directors. I'll be cheering for all of you as I watch Julie and her team unlock Neenah's endless potential in the years to come.

Thanks for your time today, and I'll now open up the call for questions.

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Questions and Answers

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Operator [1]

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(Operator Instructions)

Our first question comes from Steve Chercover with D.A. Davidson.

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Steven Pierre Chercover, D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst [2]

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Congratulations to both of you, John and Julie. So I guess I'll start with the obligatory question about the coronavirus. Do you expect it to impact either your sales or your supply chain?

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Julie A. Schertell, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, COO & Director [3]

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I'll take that one, Steve. I think the supply chain is really where we're seeing a little bit of an impact, slowing in some of the ports, but we're just managing it very closely. We do very little revenues direct to China. And so while it's contained right now, we see very minimal impact.

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Steven Pierre Chercover, D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst [4]

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Okay, great. Well, kind of keeping with China, the trade dispute last year, I think, slowed global demand and do you see that reversing course or should we just refer back to question one, which is not much impact?

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Julie A. Schertell, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, COO & Director [5]

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Last year, in 2019, when you think about the impact that China had, it was really in performance materials and in our backings category. And we had a significant impact. We're starting to lap that in the first quarter and in the second quarter of 2020, and would not expect that level of decline to continue. We also were somewhat impacted in our packaging business, premium packaging. So when you think about luxury goods and the amount of those that go into Hong Kong, that had a negative impact on our revenue.

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Steven Pierre Chercover, D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst [6]

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Okay. And then switching gears, maybe this is more for Bonnie. But from the remarks in the press release, you exit 2019 in much better shape than you started. So can we infer that the Q1 results for 2020 will have a similar improvement versus last year, kind of similar to the Q4 versus Q4 comp?

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John P. O'Donnell, Neenah, Inc. - CEO, President & Director [7]

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I think the similar part is where she's hesitating. There should be definitely an improvement.

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Bonnie J. Cruickshank-Lind, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, CFO & Treasurer [8]

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Yes, Steve. As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, the input costs are going to be in the inverse, at least what we expect, in the inverse in 2020 is where they were in '19, just like they were in the inverse of '19 versus '18. So we would expect that we would come in with significantly lower input costs in the first half versus the first half of '19, and then it will flip.

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Steven Pierre Chercover, D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst [9]

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Okay. I want to get to that. And then also in the press release, I guess, what John said that you'll recommence capital-efficient growth. And I guess Julie kind of addressed it. The end markets are growing so slowly. Do we kind of need bolt-on acquisitions in order to truly generate growth? Or maybe you can just elaborate some of the new product developments.

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John P. O'Donnell, Neenah, Inc. - CEO, President & Director [10]

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Yes, we've talked about the catalyst for growth, whether it's in transportation, filtration, digital transfer papers, packaging and so on. But you're absolutely right. M&A is a critical component of our strategy to change our growth trajectory. And that process, as we talked about also in the prepared remarks, is very active. And you should definitely take into consideration that, that's a big part of our future growth strategy. So yes, that's the short answer there.

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Steven Pierre Chercover, D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst [11]

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And last question. Pulp is down so much year-over-year that I thought -- I guess, it will be a tailwind. But that said, you're still talking about inputs higher year-on-year. So what is it that should drive that? Maybe you can tell us what are the commodities you have real sensitivity to?

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Bonnie J. Cruickshank-Lind, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, CFO & Treasurer [12]

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So Steve, when you say year-on-year, so are you talking about 2020 versus 2019?

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Steven Pierre Chercover, D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst [13]

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Yes, I would say, like the full year average for market pulp or even...

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Bonnie J. Cruickshank-Lind, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, CFO & Treasurer [14]

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For 2020?

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Steven Pierre Chercover, D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst [15]

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Yes. It should be lower than 2019.

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Bonnie J. Cruickshank-Lind, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, CFO & Treasurer [16]

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Yes. No, no, we expect it to be a fairly neutral environment. We don't expect an increase in input costs overall in 2020 versus 2019. We don't expect a big decrease either. We do expect them to be lower in the first half relative to the first half of the other year and then higher in the second half relative to 2019, but overall neutral.

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Operator [17]

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Our next question comes from Jon Tanwanteng with CJS Securities.

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Jonathan E. Tanwanteng, CJS Securities, Inc. - MD [18]

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John, congrats on the retirement, Julie on the promotion and looking forward to working with you. I wanted to drill down on the comments on the organizational changes and the projects you mentioned. First, on the R&D kind of improvements and then synergy unlocking there, and second, the global operating system. Have you quantified what you think those benefits might be both in growth and profitability? And are there going to be costs associated with implementing those?

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Julie A. Schertell, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, COO & Director [19]

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I would tell you we're still early in the process, Jon. And from a Neenah operating standpoint, it's encompassing of more than just cost. It's safety and quality and service and productivity as well as cost. We'll be talking more about it as we get further along in the process, but we're just now really starting that journey. We've always had cost reduction efforts in place. And so while that's not new, I do think this will unlock additional opportunities for us in the future. But we'll spend more time on the details of that as we get further along.

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Jonathan E. Tanwanteng, CJS Securities, Inc. - MD [20]

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Okay. Great. And then, Bonnie, can you quantify just the impact of the distributor transition in Q4, if there was any, and if that's completely done as you enter Q1?

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Bonnie J. Cruickshank-Lind, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, CFO & Treasurer [21]

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Yes. So when you look at Fine Paper, we break the decrease in the top line at Fine Paper. We say basically 1/3, 1/3, 1/3. So 1/3 of it is attributable to the Brattleboro divestiture; 1/3 of it is attributable to general market conditions, lower weakness, say, in volumes; and then the remaining 1/3 is the distributor change. We do expect -- we've guided before that we think it's about a 2% top line impact, maybe $0.5 million EBIT per quarter impact. But we think that what that's going to be is a more severe impact early on and then lessening as we go on until we wrap.

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Jonathan E. Tanwanteng, CJS Securities, Inc. - MD [22]

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Okay, and then -- that's through 2020? I'm sorry, go ahead.

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John P. O'Donnell, Neenah, Inc. - CEO, President & Director [23]

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Yes. Just as a reminder, Jon, we implemented that in beginning of the third quarter. So we've -- as Bonnie said, the first 2 quarters of this year will be taking effect. But in the long run -- and the team was very, very thoughtful about how they implement. In the long run, our expectation is that the financial results and our market strength will be enhanced, so...

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Jonathan E. Tanwanteng, CJS Securities, Inc. - MD [24]

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Okay, great. And then just a comment on Fine Paper margins. I mean you ended the year on a really high note. Is that 17% sustainable as you head into the quarter given your comments on input costs and FX and the other things that are going on? Just how should we think of it compared to Q4?

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John P. O'Donnell, Neenah, Inc. - CEO, President & Director [25]

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Jon, we've talked a lot about the impact of input costs and over time, the expectations, I think, for Fine Paper was -- should be in that high mid-teens. So 14% to -- we've said 14% to 16%.

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Jonathan E. Tanwanteng, CJS Securities, Inc. - MD [26]

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16%.

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John P. O'Donnell, Neenah, Inc. - CEO, President & Director [27]

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16%. Yes, they overdelivered. And I think that's a lot of this -- the Veritiv piece. We -- the team is doing a great job retaining the valuable brands in the marketplace, and that might be temporarily helping their margins a bit. But I would stick with the expectation of mid-teen margins for this business, and it will move through that range given the timing of input costs.

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Jonathan E. Tanwanteng, CJS Securities, Inc. - MD [28]

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Okay, great. And then last one, just in terms of the capital structure, you mentioned refinancing with a higher principal. But what are your capital structure targets and goals for the cash you raised? Is it just M&A or is there other stuff that you're earmarking it for?

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Bonnie J. Cruickshank-Lind, Neenah, Inc. - Senior VP, CFO & Treasurer [29]

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So our priority uses of our cash haven't changed. And #1, it would be organic capital that would be returning, both growth and cost savings. Then M&A is a high priority for us. We've been delevering because we just want to get our balance sheet in the best possible position. No surprise that we like dry powder because M&A, again, back to #2, is super important to us. And then we've been increasing our total shareholder return. So we don't -- we have $175 million of bonds right now. We don't know until we actually hit the market what the actual rate is going to be. We're thinking in the 5% to 6% range. And then the sizing will also be determined by the -- when we hit the market.

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Operator [30]

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This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Bill McCarthy for any closing remarks.

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William B. McCarthy, Neenah, Inc. - VP of Financial Analysis & IR [31]

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Great. Well, I'd like to thank everyone again for your interest in Neenah today. And as always, please reach out to me at any time if you have questions. Thank you.

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Operator [32]

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The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.