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Edited Transcript of STAA.OQ earnings conference call or presentation 4-Nov-20 9:30pm GMT

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Q3 2020 STAAR Surgical Co Earnings Call MONROVIA Nov 4, 2020 (Thomson StreetEvents) -- Edited Transcript of STAAR Surgical Co earnings conference call or presentation Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:30:00pm GMT TEXT version of Transcript ================================================================================ Corporate Participants ================================================================================ * Brian Moore STAAR Surgical Company - VP of Investor, Media Relations & Corporate Development * Caren L. Mason STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director * Patrick F. Williams STAAR Surgical Company - CFO ================================================================================ Conference Call Participants ================================================================================ * Andrew Frederick Brackmann William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division - Associate * Anthony Charles Petrone Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Healthcare Analyst * Christopher Cook Cooley Stephens Inc., Research Division - MD * Ryan Benjamin Zimmerman BTIG, LLC, Research Division - MD & Medical Technology Analyst ================================================================================ Presentation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operator [1] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the STAAR Surgical Third Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) This call is being recorded today, Wednesday, November 4, 2020. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Brian Moore, Vice President, Investor, Media Relations and Corporate Development for STAAR Surgical. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Moore, STAAR Surgical Company - VP of Investor, Media Relations & Corporate Development [2] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Stacy, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us on the STAAR Surgical conference call this afternoon to discuss the company's financial results for the third quarter ended October 2, 2020. On the call today are Caren Mason, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Patrick Williams, Chief Financial Officer. The press release of our third quarter results was issued just after 4 p.m. Eastern Time and is now available on STAAR's website at www.staar.com. Before we begin, let me quickly remind you that during the course of this conference call, the company will make forward-looking statements. We caution you that any statement that is not a statement of historical fact is a forward-looking statement. This includes remarks about the company's projections, expectations, plans, beliefs and prospects. These statements are based on judgment and analysis as of the date of this conference call and are subject to numerous important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. The risks and uncertainties associated with the forward-looking statements made in this conference call and webcast are described in the safe harbor statement in today's press release, as well as STAAR's public periodic filings with the SEC. Except as required by law, STAAR assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements to reflect future events or actual outcomes and does not intend to do so. In addition, to supplement the GAAP numbers, we have provided non-GAAP adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share and sales in constant currency. We believe that these non-GAAP numbers provide meaningful supplemental information and are helpful in assessing our historical and future performance. A table reconciling the GAAP information to the non-GAAP information is included in today's press release. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the line to questions from publishing analysts. (Operator Instructions) And with that, I'd like to turn the call over now to Caren Mason, President and CEO of STAAR. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [3] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Brian. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. The third quarter 2020 results we reported today represent yet another record level of quarterly sales and a return to the levels of growth that are more representative of the demand for our EVO Visian ICL family of lenses. For the third quarter of 2020, STAAR's net sales increased 21% over the prior year driven by 25% global ICL unit growth as markets more fully reopened following COVID-19-related shutdowns. On a regional basis, ICL unit growth in the third quarter was positive in a large majority of the top markets we track, as compared to the second quarter of 2020 when just 3 of our top markets achieved positive ICL unit growth, both metrics on a year-over-year basis. Standout markets for ICL unit growth in the third quarter of 2020 compared to prior year included: China, up 33%; Japan, up 67%; South Korea, up 21%; rest of Asia Pacific, up 67%; Spain, up 24%; European distributor markets, up 17%; and Germany, up 13%. India and the Middle East were the 2 markets that remained most challenged by COVID-19 during the third quarter, with each market down more than 50% in ICL units over the prior year period. Excluding India and the Middle East, global ICL unit growth for the third quarter of 2020 would have been 32% or 7 points higher than the 25% we reported. Several factors contributed to our growth during the third quarter. First, we benefited from our strong presence and growing share in Asia Pacific markets. Many APAC countries seem to be ahead of the curve with respect to effectively beating and managing the COVID-19 challenge. Life appears to be returning to normal in Asia Pacific geographies earlier than many other locations around the globe. For example, our employees in Japan and China report that COVID-19 impacts daily life less than we are hearing from our employees in other parts of the world. Globally, we continue to support our customers in getting back to pre-COVID norms while also monitoring any developing trends or actions that could lead to business disruption. Second, we are observing an EVO patient in Asia and Europe that seems more motivated to reach a quick decision regarding refractive surgery, often selecting the first doctor he or she consults, whereas, historically, these same patients may have met with 2 or 3 doctors before making a final decision. The feedback we are receiving from clinicians is that patients are increasingly more motivated to quickly seek visual freedom as the pandemic has been quite challenging, as expressed by their patients who wear glasses and contact lenses. There also appears to be an assessments amongst patients to do something good for themselves as one of our clinicians in stage shared with us. Third, COVID-19-related closures and delays, such as in the National College Entrance Exam in China, which was pushed back a month to July, may have shifted some of our normal demand cycle from the second quarter into the third quarter. And fourth, we effectively targeted and supported geographies with significant volume opportunity during the third quarter, with patient recruiting, surgeon training and marketing. During the peak season in China, we resumed in-person on-site patient educational roadshows at hospitals and hotels in the third quarter, where our customers promoted EVO with high definition and premium messaging. We had active marketing campaigns in China, Japan and Korea via digital, outdoor, commuter train and subway stations and/or social media platforms. We also resumed advertising in Germany and Spain as those markets more fully reopened. In the U.S., we expanded our strategic relationships with surgeons through a Refractive Restart program to support clinics as the U.S. market reopened. The success of this program has prompted a continuance of many facets of our surgeons' support into it through the fourth quarter. Finally, as a measure of our success and awareness beyond just sales, our EVO websites drew twice as many unique visitors in the third quarter compared to the year ago period. On a year-to-date basis through the third quarter, our Doc Finder visits are up nearly 250% over the prior year period. Turning now to our pipeline of products and potential key catalysts for STAAR in 2021 and beyond. We have made meaningful progress relating to our 2 new products for the U.S. and European markets. In the U.S., the primary study analysis cohort of 300 subjects has been enrolled and implanted with our EVO family of myopia lenses, which sets the stage for first half 2021 submission to the FDA, and if marketing approval is obtained, the opening of the U.S. market to our EVO lenses. Our clinical trial sites continue to adhere to clinical trial protocols. We look forward to sharing additional details when appropriate in 2021. Today, we also announced the initial launch and commercialization of our EVO Viva presbyopia-correcting lens in Europe. Details on our progress, including publication of the first peer review clinical paper, consumer websites launching in several countries and the first patient implant of the EVO Viva lens in Belgium are contained in the separate press release we issued this afternoon. With Viva, STAAR has introduced an implantable lens to treat presbyopia, designed to deliver all the benefits of the EVO lens for myopia with the added benefit of addressing near, intermediate and distance visual acuity. Clinical trial results have been evaluated and reported in an article written by our principal investigators and medical monitor and recently published in Clinical Ophthalmology. The conclusion of the study authors is as follows: "This multicenter, prospective clinical investigation demonstrated the ability of the EDOF ICL to correct myopia and presbyopia, resulting in improvement of uncorrected near, intermediate and distance visual acuity without compromising the quality of vision. The EDOF ICL allowed subjects to perform tasks of daily living without glasses or contact lenses. Subjects reported significant improvement in quality of life with high levels of spectacle independence and satisfaction." We are conducting a phased rollout of our EVO Viva lenses to gather information on best practices in patient selection and patient management to optimize the objective and subjective factors that will delight patients in this large addressable market. The initial surgeons, recognized as leaders in their respective markets for refractive surgery, will be implanting the lens as well as making significant contributions to the EVO Viva playbook of best practices, thereby providing a pathway to full commercialization of the lens in the second half of 2021. The third quarter of 2020 was a strong quarter for STAAR on multiple levels. Most importantly, we believe the essential fundamental demand for our EVO lenses has gained momentum and is reflecting what we experienced pre-COVID. The STAAR team remains focused on creating a lens-based future within refractive vision correction, where we believe we have the opportunity to move our global market share from 10% in the near term to 20% to 30% plus global market share in the foreseeable future. We feel very good about our business today. And with the exception of the unknowns which the pandemic holds, we are reiterating our outlook for the remainder of 2020 provided in August, which has its close of year with the fourth quarter in the range of approximately $43 million in net sales, with the caveat of increased spending to support a strongly developing outlook for 2021. Patrick? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick F. Williams, STAAR Surgical Company - CFO [4] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Caren, and good afternoon, everyone. Total net sales for Q3 2020 were $47.1 million, up 21% as compared to the $39.1 million of net sales in the year ago quarter, and up 34% on a sequential basis from Q2 2020. The increase in net sales was attributable to the strong growth in most markets as Caren mentioned earlier. In terms of product mix, ICL sales represented 88% of total company net sales for the third quarter 2020, and other products represented 12%, which is consistent with the recent trend. Gross profit for Q3 2020 was $34.9 million or 74.1% of net sales as compared to gross profit of $29.1 million or 74.4% of net sales for the prior year quarter, and $24.4 million or 69.4% of net sales for Q2 2020. The 30 basis point change in gross margin as compared to prior year quarter is primarily due to geographic sales mix, period costs associated with manufacturing expansion projects and an increased sales mix of injector parts, which carry a lower margin than our ICL. The 470 basis point sequential increase in gross margin from the second quarter is due to higher sales and a return to a more normalized level of manufacturing following a voluntary 6-week COVID-19 manufacturing pause. Consistent with our comments on the last call, we continue to expect gross margin in the low 70% range for the fourth quarter of 2020. Moving down the income statement. Total operating expenses for Q3 2020 were $30 million as compared to $25.7 million in the year ago quarter and $25.5 million for Q2 2020. We continue our cost-containment measures related to nonessential variable costs while also expanding programs designed to drive growth. We expect total Q4 2020 operating expenses to be similar to our Q3 2020 results. Taking a closer look at the components of operating expenses. G&A expense for Q3 2020 was $8.6 million compared to $7.1 million for the year ago quarter and $7.8 million for Q2 2020. The year-over-year increase in G&A is due to increased salary-related expenses, variable compensation and facility costs. The increase from Q2 2020 was due to increased variable compensation, consulting costs and facility costs. For the fourth quarter, we expect G&A to be up slightly from Q3 2020 as we begin investments to support 2021 and beyond. Selling and marketing expense was $12.7 million for Q3 2020 compared to $12.5 million for the year ago quarter and $10.3 million for Q2 2020. The increase in selling and marketing expense from the prior year quarter was due to increased salary-related expenses, advertising and promotional activities and variable compensation, offset by decreased trade show and travel expenses. And the increase from Q2 2020 was due to increased advertising and promotional activities, salary-related expenses, variable compensation and trade show expenses. For the fourth quarter, we expect selling and marketing expense to be down slightly from our Q3 2020 results. Research and development expense was $8.8 million in Q3 2020 compared to $6.2 million for the year ago quarter and $7.3 million for Q2. The increase in research and development expense as compared to those periods was primarily due to increased clinical expenses associated with our EVO clinical trial in the U.S. and the increased salary-related expenses and variable compensation. For the fourth quarter, we expect R&D to be up from our Q3 2020 results. Operating income in Q3 2020 was $4.9 million or 10.4% of net sales as compared to $3.3 million or 8.5% of net sales for the year ago quarter. The 190 basis point year-over-year expansion in operating margin is due to leverage on fixed and variable operating expenses during the quarter. Net income for the third quarter was $4 million or $0.08 per diluted share compared to net income of $2.4 million or $0.05 per share in the year ago quarter. On a non-GAAP basis, adjusted net income for Q3 2020 was $6.7 million or $0.14 per diluted share compared to adjusted net income of $5.5 million or $0.12 per diluted share in the year ago period. A table reconciling the GAAP information to the non-GAAP information is included in today's financial release. Turning to our balance sheet. Our cash and cash equivalents as of October 2, 2020, totaled $128.3 million, up $12 million compared to $116.3 million at the end of second quarter 2020. The sequential increase from the second quarter is primarily attributable to $9.6 million in cash generated from operations. Before we open up the call to your questions, I would like to highlight several upcoming investor meetings and conferences that STAAR will be attending. On November 17, STAAR will be attending the Jefferies London Virtual Health Care Conference. On November 19, STAAR will be participating in the Stephens Annual Investment Conference. Caren and I look forward to speaking with many of you at these events in the coming weeks. And this concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready to take your questions. ================================================================================ Questions and Answers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operator [1] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Operator Instructions) And your first question comes from Anthony Petrone, Jefferies. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Charles Petrone, Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Healthcare Analyst [2] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations on a good quarter here. Maybe, Caren, a couple on China first, and then a follow-up on EVO Viva. And just looking at the numbers for China, in particular, it actually looks like sequentially, pricing sort of normalized and even improved. And so maybe just to check our math there, did pricing in China improve? And when you look at the 33% implant increase, how does that stack up in terms of patients when you sort of bifurcate between high myopes and more moderate myopes patients? And I'll have a follow-up on Viva. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [3] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, thank you, Anthony. Appreciate it. In terms of pricing in China, yes, we had a strong quarter really on ASPs globally. And a lot of that was due to mix. And when we look at Toric versus Spheric, our Toric business continues to improve as well as take a larger share of our total ICL volume. With regard to higher myopes versus medium myopes, we definitely, especially in China, which is specific to your question, we are definitely going down the diopter curve. We have stories of individuals at minus 1 that we're very interested in, not having any need for glasses, especially wearing masks as often as we do now. So yes, the mix in China is continuing to go down the diopter curve toward more of what has typically been a laser vision correction targeted market. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Charles Petrone, Jefferies LLC, Research Division - Healthcare Analyst [4] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's helpful. And then the 2 follow-ups real quick. I'll add one in there. One would be when you look at the China implant, 33 and Japan, in particular, 67. Is there a way to splice out how much is still coming from deferred procedures coming back into the fold? Or is that new demand? And then just the strategy for the launch with Viva, is that going to be a combination of direct and distributor? And I'll get back in queue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [5] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay. So with regard to our third quarter revenue, how much of it is new demand, how much of it is holdover? We -- I did refer, in my scripts, the fact that there was some variation in normal -- the normal busy season, for example, in China, in that young people, their college entrance exams were delayed, that made their going back-to-school delayed, which made third quarter heavier than for some categories, our most interested implant patients going up a bit in Q3. So there is a little bit of that. But I believe, for the most part, when we talk to our clinicians and surgeons, and what we get back is that there's just this tremendous interest and enthusiasm for visual freedom. And a lot of it is related to, I think, a reaction to the pandemic. And so I would say that the majority of what we are seeing is not holdover but new demand. With regard to the Viva launch, as I said in my prepared remarks, we really are working with those refractive surgeons in the major markets across Europe, who are excellent in implanting our myopic EVO lens and working with them on rolling out very effectively our new presbyopic lens, which adds several levels of new newness, so to speak, in terms of working with patients and understanding the motivation for which visual correction need they have the highest regard or highest requirement. So as a result of that, there's a lot of patient selection criteria that goes into it. You have to very properly target the patients. You need to make sure that you have excellent patient management post surgery and follow-up. And so with the best implanters, we are rolling this product out. And we expect by next year, hopefully, in person in Barcelona, our EVO playbook will be made available. And we will make the EVO Viva lens commercially available to all surgeons, including those who are currently served by our distributor. Both those -- our distributor markets, both those that are normal distribution as well as high risk. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operator [6] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And your next question comes from Chris Cooley with Stephens. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher Cook Cooley, Stephens Inc., Research Division - MD [7] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations on a good quarter. If could start with the U.S. maybe a little bit different here. Could you help us understand, with the Refractive Restart program, what's the change in terms of your reach when you think about the surgeon population here in the United States, if we think about the current kind of premium implanters for premium IOLs on the cataract side but also higher-end refractive practices? Just trying to think about what your current penetration is and how the Refractive Restart program has helped expand within that network, kind of the expectations that are in advance of the launch next year? And then I've got a quick follow-up. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [8] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure. So the Refractive Restart program was designed to support surgeons who are coming back after the worst of COVID and reopening their practices, many of whom had been either strong to, what I would call, medium users of our Visian ICL in the U.S. The goal of the Refractive Restart was to help the surgeon attract patients by us providing the surgeon for bilateral implant patients, one of those lenses free of charge. And so the surgeon had the opportunity there to determine how they wanted to offer that benefit to their patients. What we have found is that a majority of the Refractive Restart surgeons that signed on, and there were hundreds, their goal was to really become more familiar with the Visian ICL in preparation for EVO and also to be able to offer their patients quite an opportunity to get our lenses versus potentially a LASIK procedure at maybe equal or even less price. And so it got a lot of patients that maybe had, in the past, been told that either they did not qualify for a laser vision procedure. They were called again and brought back in and/or new patients who came in who wanted visual freedom and were offered EVO and whom -- many of whom selected it. So as a result of that, we were up sequentially over 70% in units when you count those that were provided free of charge. So we've had a lot of very happy patients and a lot of very happy surgeons who are getting more and more excited about the possibility of EVO coming to the U.S. next year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher Cook Cooley, Stephens Inc., Research Division - MD [9] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's great. I appreciate the color. And then just lastly for me on the regulatory front. Just want to make sure we're level set appropriately going into next year. Do you anticipate that you will require a panel for the EVO lens in the United States? And also, could you remind us expectations for when you might begin a trial or start the process, for I'm assuming it will be a supplemental filing for Viva here in the United States as well. And again, congratulations on the quarter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [10] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Chris. As a Class III medical device going for approval, we're on a panel track. It is our assessment that based on the fact that this is a safety study, where the endpoints are clear. At this point, we do not expect that there will be a panel. But of course, that is decision for the FDA. But our belief at this point is that if and when we are able to provide the FDA with the critical information and data that supports approval, that we would then be able to go direct to approval. With regard to bringing Viva to the United States, as soon as the full EVO family of lenses is approved by the FDA in the U.S., we are immediately going into an IDE discussion on bringing Viva to the U.S. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operator [11] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And your next question comes from Ryan Zimmerman, BTIG. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Benjamin Zimmerman, BTIG, LLC, Research Division - MD & Medical Technology Analyst [12] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congrats on the quarter. It's exciting to see. A couple of questions for me. Number one, Caren, just [love that], Japan is doing great. It's almost half the size now of China in terms of sales. And so my previous viewpoint of that market was it was certainly a lot smaller than China. So I'm just wondering if you could help us understand what your penetration looks like in Japan, and whether your view of that market has changed. Or has it gotten bigger as Japan has outperformed just from a unit growth perspective? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [13] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, Japan is a very exciting story for STAAR. We have been working very effectively with the key opinion leaders in Japan who are very significant in terms of the Japanese societies' determinations. And so what's been going on is that with the pullback of laser vision correction procedures, which at one point were about 400,000. Now full refractory procedures in Japan are anywhere, per those surgeons, somewhere in the 80,000 to 100,000 procedure range. What we are now experiencing is above 30%, at least, market share. So where we are headed in Japan is to continue to work with surgeon groups and practices and university KOLs who want to bring lens-based practices as a standard to the market. And just recently, actually, in August, Forbes Japan covered 2 of our surgeons, Dr. Shimizu and Dr. Kitazawa. And they themselves in that article very clearly indicated what I just told you about laser vision correction, what's going on in terms of the refractory procedures and when ICL is the best choice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick F. Williams, STAAR Surgical Company - CFO [14] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan, it's Patrick. And as a reminder, Japan, if you're looking at it, it does have our injector revenue in there. So that might be why you're kind of thinking that, overall, Japan is going higher. But the -- just remember, that's about a couple of million dollars a quarter of revenue that does get lent into geography Japan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Benjamin Zimmerman, BTIG, LLC, Research Division - MD & Medical Technology Analyst [15] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay. That's very helpful. And then maybe just a follow-up on Anthony's question, just actually 2 quick ones for me. Just on the China performance, I mean, certainly, the data points have been very positive for the quarter. And Caren, I'm just wondering if you could speak a little bit to the seasonality, I guess, into the fourth quarter and your durability of that dynamic in the fourth quarter. I think, certainly, with some pull-forward or the dynamic of the college entrance exams, I'm just wondering if you could kind of -- if you were able to quantify what that benefit was and what you expect going forward in China? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [16] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, we talked about in August what our growth projections were and what was being reported in terms of actual number of ICLs implanted. And we came up with around 35% average. What we reported for the third quarter was 33% growth. Now that's sales to the distributor. What has been going on in a very strong China market for us is demand outweighing what we are selling. And so as a result of that, that's a good position to be in, in that we expect continuing growth even into the fourth quarter, in that we have used up quite a bit of the inventory in Q3. But all of that is figured into our projection of approximately $43 million in revenue in Q4 even with the very strong China, and that's because we are looking at a global map of COVID as potential challenges with the addition also of the Middle East and India continuing to be on a slow recovery. But there is no doubt that China growth is very strong. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Benjamin Zimmerman, BTIG, LLC, Research Division - MD & Medical Technology Analyst [17] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay. That's very helpful. And then just quickly for me, and I'll hop back in queue. You talked about timing with submission with FDA, I think first half '21. Are you still expecting a few months, potentially, of being on the market in '21 as you start to launch EVO in the U.S.? Or are you -- or at the very least, are you expecting some revenue at the tail end of '21 with EVO in the U.S.? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [18] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure. Thank you, Ryan. Well, we would love to have EVO revenue in the U.S. the minute we can get it. So at this point in time, we're uncomfortable, and I'm sure you can imagine, 100% saying that we expect to have revenue because we've got to get through the -- and appropriately with the FDA all the steps to approval. But I can tell you that everything is being prepared as if we could go to market tomorrow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operator [19] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our next question comes from Andrew Brackmann with William Blair. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Frederick Brackmann, William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division - Associate [20] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren, maybe to go back to a point you made earlier on the call related to patients making the ICL decision a little bit quicker than normal. I guess, how should we be thinking about that trend continuing over the longer term? And I guess related to the demographic here, are there any other sort of macro changes that you've witnessed in this recovery period here? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [21] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes. We have a weekly call with global representatives about markets and momentum and COVID and other obvious business indicators of where we're headed. And one of the things that keeps happening is that because of the necessary sacrifices that so many people are making, where they are unable to have the kind of social life, family events, et cetera, and because when they do go out, they have to wear masks or other apparatus that are challenging for eyeglass and contact lens wearers, there is the sentiment that they want to do something good for themselves. We've heard that more than once. We've heard it many times. And so you're, I know, aware that the plastic surgery experience right now is much greater. We believe that whether you're talking about aligners or our EVO lenses or certain procedures for aesthetic benefit, patients are just excited, and they're anxious. And once they make up their mind, they want it today. And so people are going into our surgeons' offices around the world and going, "I want EVO. I want it now. How fast can I have it?" And so that, that's a sea change from a couple of years ago, where patients were -- on average, surgeons would tell us patients would wait a year from the time they've started researching and having 1, 2 or 3 visits with several doctors before they let anybody touch their eye. Now we think part of the reason why this has improved, as well as social media has really picked up, and I talked about the fact that our Doc Finder business were up 250%. And when we're talking about events we do in China, hundreds of thousands of individuals key in or listen to TikTok presentations, et cetera. So I just think the momentum is really out there for individuals who really want to take care of things that are challenging to them, and vision care is a really high priority. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Frederick Brackmann, William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division - Associate [22] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perfect. Maybe shifting gears here, just around market share. I think you had talked about 20% share in China sort of by year-end. So I guess, first, is that sort of the assumption that you're working with? And I guess, longer term, I think it was around this time last year, you had sort of talked about the 25% target by the end of 2022. Obviously, you made some big strides this year. So I guess how should we be thinking about that longer-term target over the next couple of years? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [23] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes. We still are there. I mean if we could do the 25% earlier, we will. The momentum is certainly -- the wind's at our back, and it's really up to us to make sure that we take excellent advantage and do what we need to do to make sure that we can deliver to China all of the lens demand that we foresee. And yes, it is in the 25% range. We're already past 20%. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operator [24] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And your last question comes from Bruce Jackson, Benchmark. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Frederick Brackmann, William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division - Associate [25] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If we could look at the seasonality in Europe in the fourth quarter. Generally, it's up sequentially. This year, we've got COVID-19, so the possibility of some increased lockdown and the offset of the EDOF launch earlier. You mentioned that the EDOF launch is going to be kind of a controlled launch. How are you looking at all these puts and takes in terms of the sequential sales growth for Europe in the fourth quarter? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [26] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure. Just as a reminder, Bruce, last year, we switched from our normal sequential growth quarter-by-quarter through Q4, and Q3 became our largest quarter. And it is really based now on China being a big part of our units. And as a result of that, their busy season is an overwhelming indicator for growth in the Q2, Q3 time frame. Q4, we then usually have Europe jump in, in a big way and then Korea in the winter months that even blend in to January, et cetera. So the way we see it is Q3 will be our biggest quarter this year. And Q4 will be very nice growth, double-digit growth from prior year, but will be modulated a bit by our watching what's going on in certain markets around the world, some not still fully recovered and others requiring shutdown. So we just want to be careful and prudent that we measure this daily. And right now, what I'm reporting is what we see for the fourth quarter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operator [27] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And now I will turn the call over to Caren Mason for closing remarks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caren L. Mason, STAAR Surgical Company - CEO, President & Director [28] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your participation on our call today. We look forward to speaking with many of you in the days and weeks ahead. We appreciate your interest and investment in STAAR Surgical. Please take good care. All the best to all of you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operator [29] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for joining today's conference call. You may now disconnect.