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Edited Transcript of SWX.N earnings conference call or presentation 8-Aug-19 5:00pm GMT

Q2 2019 Southwest Gas Holdings Inc Earnings Call

LAS VEGAS Aug 9, 2019 (Thomson StreetEvents) -- Edited Transcript of Southwest Gas Holdings Inc earnings conference call or presentation Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 5:00:00pm GMT

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Corporate Participants

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* Gregory J. Peterson

Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO

* John P. Hester

Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - President, CEO & Director

* Justin L. Brown

Southwest Gas Corporation - Senior VP & General Counsel

* Kenneth J. Kenny

Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - VP of Finance & Treasurer

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Conference Call Participants

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* Aga Zmigrodzka

UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - Associate Director and Equity Research Associate, MLPs

* Christopher Ronald Ellinghaus

The Williams Capital Group, L.P., Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Power and Natural Gas

* Ryan Michael Levine

Citigroup Inc, Research Division - Equity Analyst

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Presentation

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Operator [1]

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Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Southwest Gas Holdings 2019 Mid-year Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this call maybe recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Ken Kenny, Vice President of Finance and Treasury. Sir, you may begin.

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Kenneth J. Kenny, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - VP of Finance & Treasurer [2]

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Thank you, Valerie. Welcome to the Southwest Gas Holdings Inc. 2019 Mid-year conference call. As Valerie stated, my name is Ken Kenny, and I'm the Vice President of Finance and Treasurer. Our conference call is being broadcast live over the Internet. For those of you who would like to access the webcast, please visit our website at www.swgasholdings.com and click on the conference call link. We have slides on the Internet, which can be accessed to follow our presentation.

Today, we have Mr. John P. Hester, Southwest President and Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Gregory J. Peterson, Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Justin L. Brown, Senior Vice President, General Counsel; and other members of senior management to provide a brief overview of the company's operation and earnings ended June 30, 2019, and reaffirm earnings per share guidance for 2019. Also, the company will address those factors that may impact this coming year's earnings.

Further, our lawyers have asked me to remind you that some of the information that will be discussed contains forward-looking statements. These statements are based on management's assumptions, which may or may not come true. And you should refer to the language in the press release, Slide 3 of our presentation today and also our SEC filings for a description of the factors that may cause actual results to differ from our forward-looking statements. All forward-looking statements are made as of today and we assume no obligation to update any such statements.

With that said, I'd like to turn the time over to John.

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John P. Hester, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - President, CEO & Director [3]

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Thanks, Ken. Turning to Slide 4, we provide some highlights for today's call from a consolidated results perspective, diluted earnings per share for the second quarter was $0.41. We experienced record annual revenue of $3 billion, and we are reaffirming our 2019 diluted earnings per share guidance range from $3.75 to $4.

In the Natural Gas segment, we added 34,000 net new customers. We submitted $57 million rate request to the Arizona Corporation commission in May, and we are also submitting the request to the Public Utilities Commission of Nevada to expand our service territories to include the town of Spring Creek, Nevada.

At our Centuri utility infrastructure services segment, we saw quarterly revenues increased by $59.1 million, $55.7 million (sic) [$56.7 million] of which was attributed to our Linetec services acquisition. We received a $3.1 million contribution to quarterly earnings from Linetec and our net income for the past year for the Centuri segment totaled $47.6 million.

Moving to Slide 5. We provide an outline for today's call. Greg Peterson will provide an overview of consolidated earnings for the periods ending June 30, 2019, including segments breakdown for the Natural Gas and Utility infrastructure Services operations. Justin Brown will provide an update on our various regulatory proceedings, and I will close with an overview of regional economic conditions and customer growth, our planned capital expenditures, a reaffirmation of our 2019 earnings guidance and long-term value drivers for our shareholders.

With that, I'll now turn the call over to Greg.

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Gregory J. Peterson, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [4]

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Thanks, John. Let's begin with the summary of total company operating results on Slide 6. For the second quarter of 2019, consolidated net income was $22.1 million versus $21.6 million for the prior year's quarter. However, EPS decline from $0.44 to $0.41 due to differences in average shares outstanding between the quarters.

For the 12 months ended June 30, 2019, net income was $198.5 million or $3.86 per share compared to the net income in the prior year period of $207.3 million or $4.28 per diluted share. That period included a onetime cash reform benefit of approximately $20 million or $0.41 per share.

I will provide some highlights of results by segment, beginning with quarterly Natural Gas Operations on Slide 7. This waterfalls chart shows the components of the Natural Gas Operations net income increase between quarters of about $750,000. The net $1.3 million increase in operating margin includes $2 million from customer growth as 34,000 net new customers were added over the past 12 months, and a combined $2 million from California attrition and Nevada rate relief. These were partially offset by lower regulatory surcharges and tax reform benefits recorded in the second quarter of 2018.

O&M expenses declined slightly as employee pension and medical cost decreases more than offset general cost increases. The $2.1 million or 3% increase in depreciation, amortization and general taxes reflects the impact of $579 million or 9% increase in gas plant in service, partially offset by lower regulatory surcharge amortization.

The $3.7 million increase in other income reflects favorable market fluctuations on cash surrender values of company-owned life insurance or COLI policies. About half of the approximate $125 million in accumulated cash surrender COLI values on the balance sheet are influenced by stock market changes. COLI values climbed $3.4 million this quarter, including $500,000 of incremental policy debt benefits versus a $2 million increase in the prior year quarter. In addition, a $1.5 million reduction in nonservice pension-related cost is reflected in this category.

Lastly, the $3.2 million uptick in interest expense reflects higher debt outstanding, including $300 million of senior notes issued in May 2019 to facilitate Southwest robust capital expenditures program. Higher interest on regulatory liabilities, including an $88 million PGA payable in Arizona also impacted interest expense.

Turning to Slide 8, we see the quarterly changes for Centuri, our Utility Infrastructure Services segment. As we disclosed in the second quarter 10-Q, the increases in revenues, expenses depreciation and amortization were primarily due to the operations of Linetec, which we acquired in November 2018. This Southeast-based electric utility infrastructure services company contributed approximately $3.1 million towards Centuri's $18.9 million of net income for the quarter.

Despite this contribution and growth from our other utility customers, net income between quarters declined about $300,000 due to $9 million of incremental revenue recognized in the second quarter of 2018 associated with the negotiated settlement of water pipe replacement contract dispute.

Slide 9 depicts the relative contributions by our 2 business segments for the 12 months ended June 30, 2019. As you can see, Natural Gas Operations provide about 3/4 of our consolidated net income, while Centuri's Utility Infrastructure Services group provided about 1/4.

Let's move to Slide 10, and look at each segment's impact to the consolidated change between 12-month periods. Slide 10 depicts the components of an $8.8 million decline in consolidated earnings between 12-month periods. Contribution from the Natural Gas segment declined $10.7 million, while the contribution from Utility Infrastructure Services increased $2.4 million. I'll provide additional details on each segment's performance in the next couple of slides.

Slide 11 depicts the components of the changes in Natural Gas Operations results between 12-month periods. The $17.6 million improvement in operating margin includes $11 million from continuing customer growth and $7 million in combined rate relief in Nevada and California. The negative impacts of reserve and related regulatory adjustments associated with tax reform were substantially offset by changes in miscellaneous revenues and recoveries of regulatory assets.

The $10.7 million or 3% increase in O&M reflects general cost increases as well as $3.1 million of incremental damage prevention or call before you dig costs associated with utility and general construction activities throughout our service territories.

The $11.8 million or 5% increase in depreciation, amortization and general taxes reflects the impact of a $520 million or 8% increase in average gas plant service, partially offset by reductions in regulatory amortization.

The $6 million increase in other income includes $2.2 million in additional interest income and $3.2 million increase in equity component of the AFUDC or allowance for funds used during construction.

COLI cash surrender value increases were relatively flat between these periods. The $13.8 million increase in interest expense is due to higher outstanding balances on Southwest credit facility as well as debt issuances of $300 million in March 2018 and $300 million in May 2019, as we continue to finance capital expenditures to expand and fortify our distribution system.

Next I'll discuss the components of the quarterly change in our utility infrastructure services segment, beginning on Slide 12.

Slide 12 shows the components of the $2.4 million increase in Centuri net income between 12-month periods. Our recent acquisitions of Linetec in November 2018 and Neuco in November 2017 provided significant benefits to Centuri's results. Overall, revenues increased $225 million, including $118 million of new revenues from Linetec and $90 million of incremental revenues from Neuco.

Utility infrastructure services revenues also benefited from some nonroutine projects, including customer-requested support during strike-related and emergency response situations, primarily in the second half of 2018. Infrastructure services expenses were $182 million higher than the prior year period, primarily due to incremental amounts for Linetec and Neuco operations.

Depreciation and amortization increased $20 million due to depreciation on incremental equipment purchases and incremental amortization of the intangible assets associated with the Linetec and Neuco acquisition.

The other category includes a $3 million increase in interest expense due to higher debt outstanding, including amounts associated with these recent acquisitions.

The $16 million increase in income taxes between periods primarily reflects the impact of a onetime $12 million benefit recognized in December 2017 due to the remeasurement of deferred tax liabilities associated with tax reform.

In addition, pretax income in the current period was $20 million higher than the prior year period. For the 12 months ended June 30, 2019, Centuri operations contributed $47.6 million in net income toward our consolidated results.

Based on the quarterly results for both segments, we reaffirm our full year 2019 EPS guidance of $3.75 to $4 per share.

I'll now turn the call over to Justin Brown to provide an update on regulatory items.

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Justin L. Brown, Southwest Gas Corporation - Senior VP & General Counsel [5]

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Thanks, Greg. As shown on Slide 13, I'll be providing an update on several key regulatory matters from this past quarter, namely rate case activity and an update on several other regulatory initiatives.

I'll start on Page 14 with our Arizona general rate case filing. As John mentioned, our application requests an increase in revenues to $57 million. There are 2 primary drivers for this case. First to fully reflect the impacted tax reform in base rates. And two, to update rate base to reflect the nearly $700 million that's been invested in Arizona since our last rate case.

With respect to tax reform, the proposed $57 million increase in revenues is net of any offset from tax reform, including our proposed amortization of approximately $21 million associated with excess deferred income taxes. Parts of the proposed revenue increase is also attributed to a proposal to increase our authorized return on common equity from 9.5% to 10.3%. We're also requesting approval of a new infrastructure recovery mechanism to help monitor, assess and potentially replace certain plastic pipes. We've also requested approval of a renewable natural gas program, whereby, we would target specific percentages of renewal natural gas to include in our gas supply portfolio. The commission issued procedural schedule in June and we expect to see intervenor testimony around the 1st of December, with hearings in February, and hopefully, a decision in the early part of the second quarter of 2020.

Moving to Page 15. In addition to our Arizona rate case, our FERC regulated pipeline company also filed a rate case in May, requesting to increase their revenues by $7.1 million, which includes a proposal to increase depreciation rate by $1.8 million.

Similar to Arizona case, the increase is net of any adjustment for changes in tax reform, including a proposal to start amortizing approximately $15 million of excess accumulated deferred income taxes by approximately $340,000 a year. We're also requesting an ROE of 14.8% relative to a hypothetical capital structure of 56% equity and proposed rate base of $137 million.

We are also proposing to continue the use of our term differentiated rate structure, whereby customers with contract terms with less than 5 years will pay a higher ROE than those with contract terms greater than 5 years.

The FERC issued an order in July accepting and suspending the rates for 5 months, as such we expect rates to become effective in December of this year with hearings likely in the first half of 2020 and a final decision by the end of the third quarter of 2020.

Turning to Page 16. We are currently working on finalizing our next California general rate case that will be filed by the end of this month. The rate case will use a calendar year 2021 test period with new rates becoming effective in January of 2021. In the meantime, we'll continue to make annual adjustments to margin through 2020 as part of our annual 2.75% attrition filing. And in fact, in 2019, we were authorized to increase revenue by $2.8 million beginning January of this year.

Moving on to an update on some of our other regulatory initiatives from this past quarter. We've officially started commence work on our $174 million customer data modernization initiative. We're still working our way through the regulatory process in each state in an attempt to get constructive mechanisms in place to help facilitate the timely and complete cost recovery of the project. In fact, we have a hearing in Nevada later this month on our pending request for regulatory assets, and we anticipate a final decision by October. We also hope to receive final decisions in Arizona and California either later this year or in the first part of 2020.

Turning to Slide 17. In June, we made our second SB 151 application with the PUCN requesting approval to extend our facility to Spring Creek, Nevada, located just south of Elko. Spring Creek has about 5,000 potential customers, and we've requested approvals to invest approximately $62 million to construct and approach and remain in distribution system in the community. We currently anticipate a final decision on this proposal in early 2020.

We continue to make progress on our 2 other projects, our $80 million LNG facility in Southern Arizona is wrapping up and is on schedule to be completing its service by September. As a reminder, we have also included the cost of this facility in our current rate case as part of our post test-year plan adjustment.

In Nevada, we continue to make progress on building our approved distribution system in Mesquite and hooking up new customs, including our work on bringing the current gas supply to Mesquite with the approach which is expected to be in service by the first quarter of 2021.

Meanwhile, we'll continue to serve new customers with the temporary virtual pipeline and compressed natural gas.

And with that, I'll turn it back to John.

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John P. Hester, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - President, CEO & Director [6]

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Thanks, Justin. Turning to Slide 18. We illustrate the robust economic condition throughout our service territory. Population growth rate in the states in which we operate are expected to significantly exceed the national average over the coming 5-year period. In addition, unemployment rates continue to stay low, but continued strong job growth in each of our operating divisions.

Moving to Slide 19. We depict a strong growth in customers that is expected to continue in the years to come. We expect to add 35,000 net new customers this year and then 37,000 customers in each of the following 2 years, for an average customer growth rate of 1.7%.

On Slide 20, we show our expectations for our capital expenditures through 2021 as we continue to serve regional growth and reinvest in the safety and reliability of our gas delivery systems. For the 3-year period ending 2021, we expect to invest $2.1 billion across our system. A significant portion of that investment is associated with growth and supportive cost recovery mechanisms that Justin referenced earlier in his comments.

Approximately 45% to 50% of the investment funds will be provided by internal cash flows, but the remaining funds provided through balance of debt and equity issuances.

Turning to Slide 21. Continued investment in our gas delivery systems is expected to fuel significant growth in our rate base. As a result, we anticipate rate base growing from $3.5 billion at the end of last year to $4.8 billion at the end of 2021. This growth represents an 11% compounded annual growth rate over the 3-year period.

Moving to Slide 22. We are reaffirming the earnings guidance we provided earlier this year. We are on track to earn between $3.75 and $4 for diluted share by the end of this year.

Next, on Slide 23, provides some additional colors supporting our earnings guidance affirmation. In the Natural Gas segment, we expect operating margin to increase by 4% to 5%, operating income should increase modestly, and as indicated on prior the slide, 2019 capital expenditures should total $710 million.

In the Utility Infrastructure Services segment, we anticipate revenue growth of 10% to 15%, operating income to approximate 6% to 6.5% of revenues and we point out that net income expectations are net of noncontrolling interest and the fluctuation in Canadian exchange rates can influence segment results.

Finally, on Slide 24, we recap our expected long-term value drivers for our shareholders. In our Natural Gas Operations, we anticipate strong customer growth, capital reinvestment and rate base growth over the coming 3-year period. These expectations are supported in partnership with our regulators, the regular rate case filings and established cost recovery mechanisms.

In addition, in our Utility Infrastructure Services segment, we will continue to capitalize on our position as one of the largest specialty utility contractors in North America, now operating in 28 different markets across the U.S. and Canada, with established quality utility relationships in excess of 20 years. We anticipate continued growth from this segment as with partners with regulated utilities across the U.S. and Canada to serve significant utility infrastructure replacement needs for many years to come.

With that, I'll return the call to Ken.

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Kenneth J. Kenny, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - VP of Finance & Treasurer [7]

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Thanks, John. That concludes our prepared presentation. For those who have access to our slides, we have also provided an appendix with slides which includes other pertinent information about Southwest Gas Holdings Inc. and its subsidiaries. It can be reviewed at your convenience.

Our operator, Valerie, will now explain the process for asking questions.

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Questions and Answers

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Operator [1]

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(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Aga Zmigrodzka of UBS.

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Aga Zmigrodzka, UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - Associate Director and Equity Research Associate, MLPs [2]

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Delaware Gas announced a trial for an expansion of its service into Spring Creek, Nevada. How many more opportunities do you see around your systems for similars expansion?

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Justin L. Brown, Southwest Gas Corporation - Senior VP & General Counsel [3]

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This is Justin. I think there are probably a couple there. When we originally had the legislation passed, I think there were kind of probably 4, maybe 5 areas that were on our radar. And so we have Mesquite and we have Spring Creek. I'd say there's probably a couple left that we would look at, and we'll just kind of look at them on a case-by-case basis, and we'll always keep our eye open to whether there is more beyond that as well.

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Aga Zmigrodzka, UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - Associate Director and Equity Research Associate, MLPs [4]

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And you affirm to those 2019 EPS guidance, but lowered expected revenue growth from Utility Infrastructure Services. Could you please provide more color on the drivers of that change? And at the same time could you please maybe discuss the offsetting factors that allow you to maintain the EPS range intact?

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Gregory J. Peterson, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [5]

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Sure, Aga, this is Greg. As we look out to the future for Centuri operation, there's probably 2 or 3 main factors that have kind of changed our outlook for the year. One, as we mentioned earlier, we had a weather impact in first and second quarters actually that kind of slowed our progress in the work that we could get done. And early in the year we were more hopeful that could catch up in that. But, again, that will have a short-term impact, but nothing in the medium to long term. But it has slowed down what we'll be able to get done in calendar '19. And we've also had a few of our larger customers who've had some changes, either some regulatory constraints or otherwise and how much work that they can put out. There's some areas where due to regulatory constraints the professional engineer stamp is required on drawing. And that's just slowing the amount of work that we can get in-house to get done. Again, the same sort of thing. It's more of a short-term 2019 item versus anything medium or long term.

As we mentioned in the call and in our quarterly report, we did have water contract. Last year we had a settlement of $9 million. That contract completed this year in June, and we opted not to extend or seek an extension of that contract renewal. And so that's having little bit of impact on what the future may hold for us. We are certainly optimistic that other things [may appear that would benefit us in 2019. On the positive side, returns on COLI policies have been better than expected (about $11 million so far this year). This was not anticipated in our original guidance. In addition, the Federal Reserve recently lowered their benchmark interest rate which will] (added by company after the call) have a beneficial impact or it should for our companies on both segments with lower interest expense. And then, as you can see in the second quarter this year versus last year on the utility side, O&M expenses were relatively flat and while we don't expect O&M to be flat year-over-year, we are, as a management team, focused on cost containment issues to keep that O&M growth down. So those are some of the positive factors that have allowed us to keep that guidance in the $3.75 to $4 neighborhood.

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Aga Zmigrodzka, UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - Associate Director and Equity Research Associate, MLPs [6]

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Last question from me. In the past few years, you announced acquisitions in the second half of the year. Should we expect similar M&A activity in this half of 2019?

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John P. Hester, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - President, CEO & Director [7]

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This is John. We don't have anything planned immediately that we think would be completed in 2019. That said, we are always looking at a variety of potential acquisitions that help continue to grow and diversify both geographically and from a service offering perspective for Centuri. So it is possible, but we don't have anything in mind at the current time. But we'll continue to look for opportunities to grow that business where we think it will increase earnings, and ultimately, valuation for the shareholder.

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Operator [8]

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Our next question comes from Christopher Ellinghaus of Williams Capital.

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Christopher Ronald Ellinghaus, The Williams Capital Group, L.P., Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Power and Natural Gas [9]

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Greg, you were talking about weather impact for Centuri. You've had a pretty stellar year-over-year set of results. All right. I would kind of like it if you'd have these kind of weather impacts more often. But given the change in the guidance for revenues and sort of the results that I see for the year-to-date, looks pretty good so far. Were there any timing impacts that weren't weather-related in terms of maybe getting some accelerated work done for other reasons in the second quarter? Or was this pretty much what you were kind of expecting?

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Gregory J. Peterson, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [10]

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I think the second quarter is -- Chris, this is Greg, was what we were expecting on a relative basis. There's all these changes within our customer base as to when they give us work. We're very dependent on the timing of when they provide us with the working opportunities. As I mentioned earlier in my comment, that PE stamp requirement has just slowed the -- I'll use the term backlog. The backlog of work that we used to have for some of our larger clients. And so I think, again, Q2 was kind of what we expected, but that's what's kind of slowing the growth for the second half of the year.

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Christopher Ronald Ellinghaus, The Williams Capital Group, L.P., Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Power and Natural Gas [11]

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Okay. Can you give us any color on what you're seeing post Linetec acquisition in the cross-selling efforts?

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Gregory J. Peterson, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [12]

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Yes. This is Greg, again. It is still pretty early in the process as we can show or as we depict in the slides later in the appendix. We have quite a long history with our customers, and the cross-selling opportunities that we've talked about and expect to come to fruition in the future take a little bit of time to do. These utilities have often have long-term entrenched relationships with their contractors, and so we're breaking into that opportunities. And so we expect to see something in the future, but probably not in the next few months.

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Christopher Ronald Ellinghaus, The Williams Capital Group, L.P., Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Power and Natural Gas [13]

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Sure. Can you -- there is a lot going on in Las Vegas right now, Convention Center, the stadium, Resorts World, Circa, Wynn, there's a lot of projects right now. Have you got any thoughts on what you're seeing beyond this current batch of Vegas expansion?

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John P. Hester, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - President, CEO & Director [14]

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Chris, this is John. We think that we're going to continue to see more of the same. I think, as you just pointed out, a number of really big projects that have driven economic growth there and Southern Nevada, and it continues to be a favorable business climate. Both the city, the county, the state are very interested in continuing to facilitate that economic development. And so we expect that type of trend to continue at Las Vegas and the region continues to be a desirable place to do business.

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Christopher Ronald Ellinghaus, The Williams Capital Group, L.P., Research Division - Senior Equity Research Analyst of Power and Natural Gas [15]

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Okay. Lastly, in the Arizona docket is the new pipe replacement program. Can you give us any kind of color on which you've been seeing, Justin, in terms of discovery or discussions with intervenors or what not about that program?

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Justin L. Brown, Southwest Gas Corporation - Senior VP & General Counsel [16]

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Yes. Chris, we really haven't seen a lot on that. I mean, we have kind of our typical ongoing discussions with the parties, but still pretty early in the process with the procedural schedule and usually the intervenors take a little time to get consultants on board. That's still pretty early. I expect to see something along those lines over the next couple of months.

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Operator [17]

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Our next question comes from Ryan Levine of Citi.

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Ryan Michael Levine, Citigroup Inc, Research Division - Equity Analyst [18]

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What was the amount of the pension and medical cost reduction during the quarter? And is any of that likely to continue to benefit financials over the next several quarters?

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Operator [19]

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One moment, please. One moment.

Ladies and gentleman, one moment, the speakers will be with you momentarily.

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Kenneth J. Kenny, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - VP of Finance & Treasurer [20]

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Hello? Hello, Valerie.

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Operator [21]

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Yes sir, you are connected.

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Kenneth J. Kenny, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - VP of Finance & Treasurer [22]

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Yes. Sorry, some sort of disconnection. So unfortunately, we've gone back to a little bit of a old-style speakerphone on my cellphone. So we'll finish it that way. So we're willing to take any other questions.

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Operator [23]

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Ryan is still connected.

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Ryan Michael Levine, Citigroup Inc, Research Division - Equity Analyst [24]

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Yes. I don't know if you're able to before. I was asking what the magnitude of the pension and medical cost reduction was in the utility segment during the quarter? And if any of that was likely to continue into the next several quarters?

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Gregory J. Peterson, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [25]

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Ryan, this is Greg. The medical benefits was probably just a little more than $1 million of reduction. We're self-insured for our employee medical, and so there is some fluctuation there. We have experienced or had good experience thus far this year. And would expect that to continue into the future, but I don't have any guarantees for the second half of 2019.

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Ryan Michael Levine, Citigroup Inc, Research Division - Equity Analyst [26]

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Beyond the pension and medical cost reductions, what are the other cost-reduction initiatives that they are working on or (inaudible) keep O&M cost inflation under control?

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Gregory J. Peterson, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - Senior VP & CFO [27]

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Yes. I think it's -- this is Greg, again. I think it's just the general overall view of keeping costs from rising quickly. I always want a caveat that we are not trying to do cost-reduction measures, but cost containment measures. But we've done a good job thus far this year, and some of our leak survey and line breaks we're monitoring what's going on there. So it's just an overall general, whether it's employee headcount or some other administrative functions that we are trying to focus on and keep those costs down.

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Operator [28]

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I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Ken Kenny for any closing comments.

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Kenneth J. Kenny, Southwest Gas Holdings, Inc. - VP of Finance & Treasurer [29]

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Thank you, Valerie. This concludes our conference call, and we appreciate your participation and interest in Southwest Gas Holdings Inc. Have a great day. Thanks.

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Operator [30]

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Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. You may all disconnect. Have a great day.