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THL Credit (TCRD) Q2 2019 Earnings Call Transcript

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Q2 2019 Earnings Call
Aug 09, 2019, 10:30 a.m. ET


  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:


Good morning and welcome to THL Credit Incorporated's earnings conference call for its second fiscal quarter ended June 30, 2019. It is my pleasure to turn the call over to Ms. Sabrina Rusnak-Carlson, general counsel of THL Credit Incorporated. Ms.

Rusnak-Carlson, you may begin.

Sabrina Rusnak-Carlson -- General Counsel

Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you for joining us. With me today are Chris Flynn, our chief executive officer; and Terry Olson, our chief operating officer and chief financial officer. Before we begin, please note the statements made on this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended.

Such statements reflect various assumptions by THL Credit concerning anticipated results that are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to known and unknown uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. The uncertainties and other factors are in some ways beyond management's control and include the factors included in the section entitled Risk Factors in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K as updated by our quarterly report on 10 -- on Form 10-Q and our periodic and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Although we believe that the assumptions on which any forward-looking statements are based on our reasonable, any of those assumptions could prove to be inaccurate, and as a result, the forward-looking statements based on those assumptions also could be incorrect, you should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. THL Credit undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statements made herein.

All forward-looking statements speak only as of the date of this call. Our earnings announcement and 10-Q were released yesterday afternoon, copies of which can be found on our website along with the Q2 earnings presentation that we may refer to during this call. A webcast replay of this call will be available until August 19, 2019, starting approximately two hours after we conclude this morning. To access the replay, please visit our website at www.thlcreditbdc.com.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Chris.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Sabrina, and good morning, everyone. I will begin today's call with an update on our Q2 financial results and then we'll move on to the progress we've made in managing and repositioning our portfolio. Our net investment income for the quarter was $0.28 a share and included a onetime exit free from the sale of LAI of $0.05 per share. Excluding this fee, our core earnings were $0.23 per share versus our dividend of $0.21.

The NAV decline to $8.49 per share this quarter was isolated primarily in two credits, Charming Charlie and LAI, with some modest volatility in our Logan joint venture. Both Charming Charlie and LAI have been on nonaccrual and were significantly marked down in Q1, so there was minimal to no impact to income. I'd also like to point out that 90% of our NAV decline over the last three quarters have been concentrated in these two names. Despite the NAV volatility, we believe the fundamentals of business and our portfolio are moving in the right direction, but let me first address Charming Charlie.

Despite a successful ABL refinancing that we mentioned in our Q1 call and evaluation of additional liquidity sources, the company projected an incremental liquidity need in 2020, which was unable to be filled. And the tough headwinds that many in the retail face -- sector are facing, the company had difficulty securing sufficient trade support, which resulted in weaker inventory levels that led to softer spring sales seasons. As a result, Charming Charlie filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in July and is in the process of liquidating. This process is progressing well.

Our Q2 mark reflects our current estimated recovery value once all these assets are successfully liquidated. Now let me speak to the sale of LAI. As we mentioned in our Q1 call, we expected the sale of the largest component of the business to close quickly. Unfortunately, the process was protracted and the sale closed later in June, resulting in further deterioration on the value of our nonpriority loan and a negative impact to NAV of proximally 4% -- I'm sorry, $0.04 per share versus our marked.

Our priority loan were repaid in full plus $1.5 million exit fee, which is recorded as income. We continue to hold a modest receivable on our balance sheet related to the remaining assets of this business. I want to emphasize that outside these two writedowns, we are pleased with the overall stable performance and effective transition of the portfolio. Our objective over the last 18 months has been to reduce the risk in our portfolio by improving diversification.

We are doing this by adding smaller first-lien security positions, exiting concentrated names and noncore investments and continuing to invest in first-lien senior secured loans and the Logan joint venture. We remain confident in our plan we've outlined, and we believe we've made progress executing it. As a result, we believe the risk in our portfolio has significantly decreased over the last 18 months, and we remain well-positioned to deliver solid performance in 2020. Let me provide some more color on our progress.

First, we have significantly improved our overall diversification in the portfolio by adding smaller positions and proactively exiting more concentrated ones. The average size of the seven new investments made in Q2 is approximately $4.6 million and this represents approximately 1% of the portfolio and is well below our target average hold of 2.5%. Since the start of 2018, the average size of our last 19 investments is $5.8 million or 1.2%. TCRD continues to benefit from our co-investment capabilities across the private funds, our middle-market CLOs, which are allowing us to take smaller positions and achieve our diversification goals while still originating very attractive investments.

Second, since Q1 2018, we have proactively explored opportunities to exit our larger positions. And we reduced the number of these companies with a hold size above 2.5% from 14 to seven. This progress continued in recent months as we exited four concentrated positions: Hart, LAI, Anexinet, and Fairstone, which we exited in early July. Hart was repaid at par and both Anexinet and Fairstone were repaid at par plus a prepayment penalty.

As a result of our efforts, the average size of this investment in our debt portfolio cost has decreased from $14 million in Q1 2018 to $9 million at the end of Q2 2019. While we are focused on our remaining concentrated positions from a risk and diversification perspective, we continue to be especially focused on two remaining positions we highlighted in our previous calls, Holland and OEM. Holland due to its size, sector and its recent performance, and OEM primarily due to its size. Together these two positions represent 12.5% of our portfolio based on fair value at June 30, 2019.

Holland is a first-lien investment and one of our three remaining energy credits. The business continues to make progress, albeit at slower-than-expected pace, and we've adjusted the value of our holdings this quarter to reflect this. OEM continues to execute its plan and has performed in line with our expectations so far this year from both the product development standpoint and a booking standpoint. It is our goal to position this company for sale by early 2020.

The third thing I'd like to emphasize is that we continue to make progress on remaining noncore control equity investments. Copperweld marked up notably in Q2 and C&K continues to perform as well. We remain optimistic about our sale prospects for these companies in 2019 and expect our current dividend levels to continue as long as we hold these positions. In Q2, we recorded $1.2 million of dividend income related to these positions.

Overall, we believe the portfolio is substantially less risky today than it was one year ago. The vast majority of the portfolio, now 82% first lien as of June 30, is invested in first-lien senior secured loans, including the Logan joint venture, which is primarily comprised of first-lien loans. 100% of our new investments in 2018 and '19 have been in first-lien loans, and we've continued to grow the Logan joint venture, which now presents 18% of our portfolio as of June 30 and generates approximately a 11% to 12% return on equity. We continue to believe that first-lien investments in sponsor-backed middle-market companies provide the most attractive risk-adjusted returns in today's environment.

For the remainder of 2019, our focus remains to substantially complete the rotation of our portfolio and to best of our ability ensure alignment with our shareholders. Now we've taken a number of recent actions to further strengthen its alignment. With the approval of our shareholders at the Annual Meeting in June 2019, our advisor formally lowered our management fee from 1.5% to 1% and also lowered our incentive fee from 20% to 17.5% with an 8% hurdle. These changes are even more shareholder friendly and we believe appropriate for the more diversified senior secured floating rate portfolio that we're building.

The lower base management fee of 1% went into effect on April 1 and is expected to add approximately $0.02 per share to quarterly income going forward. Additionally, the incentive fee is being waived to the extent earned through 2019. It's worth noting that our three-year lookback picture takes into consideration realized and unrealized losses, which also may limit future incentive fees going forward. We also continue to execute on our $15 million 10b5-1 stock repurchase program.

Since March 2019, we have repurchased 8.4 million of our stock to date or 56% of the target amount at a substantial discount to NAV. Repurchases in Q2 alone were accretive to book value by $0.04 a share. As we look forward to 2020, I want to highlight several factors we believe will position the BDC for continued progress and performance. First, our shareholders approved the reduced asset coverage requirement at our Annual Meeting in June.

As I've noted on previous calls, our plan is to begin to use the increased leverage in early 2020. This is subject to successfully amending our credit facility and further progress of diversifying the portfolio. But it's important part of our plan in 2020, and we expect to target modest leverage in the 1.05 to 1.15 range. We now do not anticipate that this will change our investment strategy as we continue to target investments in companies with $5 million to $25 million of EBITDA.

Second, we expect the BDC to continue from the growth and benefit from the resources of THL Credit platform, which currently manages approximately $17 billion. We continue to have success raising private funds and middle-market CLOs. Our co-investment capabilities across the vehicles allow us to take smaller positions within the BDC, achieve our diversification goals, while still executing our strategy as a leading investor and originator of middle-market private credit. 2019 has been our most prolific year to date in terms of originating attractive direct lending opportunities.

We've closed on over $500 million of commitments across 18 portfolio companies so far this year. And over the last 18 months, we've committed over $800 million across 38 new portfolio accompanies. We strongly believe we have the right team in place to complete the execution of the plan. We believe these actions we've taken in 2018 and thus far in 2019 are the right ones as overall risk in the portfolio has continued to decrease and become increasingly isolated.

We expect continued improvement in diversification will result in a more stable and predictable returns for the BDC and for our shareholders and this will position us well going forward. With that, I'll turn the call over to Terry to take a more look into our portfolio and Q2 results in more detail.

Terry Olson -- Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. First, a few portfolio highlights. As of June 30th, our portfolio of $464 million was invested 64% in first-lien senior secured debt and 18% for Logan JV. As a reminder, the Logan JV is 96% invested in first lien assets.

The remaining 18% of TCRD's portfolio was held in second lien subordinated debt and other income-producing and equity holdings. Copperweld and C&K represent over half of the 18% or $48 million. Please refer to Slides 14 and 15 in our earnings presentation, which highlight these trends over the last two years. The weighted average yield on the debt and income-producing portfolio, including Logan, was 9.8%, in line with the previous quarter.

Logan continues to perform well and credit quality remains solid. The $336 million portfolio at par of 128 issuers continues to generate an attractive return for our shareholders. We expect to continue to grow Logan as we cycle out of noncore and concentrated on these positions. At 18% of the portfolio today, we see the upper end in the future at 20% plus or minus at this time.

Our long-term yield expectation continues to be in the 11% to 12% range. We were near the lower end of this quarter largely due to the portfolio running at lower leverage levels, the timing of equity contributions and a continued muted level of prepayment activity in the broader market, which has slowed the accretion in OID and prepayment penalties at Logan. Logan was marked down by $2.4 million or $0.08 per share this quarter largely due to broader credit market movements and pricing in June and some credit weakness in a couple of names. There was one loan on nonaccrual status as of June 30 with a cost basis of $2.5 million and representing less than 1% of the Logan portfolio.

Total nonaccruals as a percentage of TCRD's portfolio at fair value and cost decreased to 1.8% and 7.8%, respectively, with the sale of LAI in Q2. Charming Charlie and Loadmaster were the other two names on nonaccrual status as of June 30, consistent with prior quarters and no new names were added to nonaccrual in Q2. Now moving on to the financials for the second quarter. Chris mentioned there's a net investment income of $0.28 per share including the onetime access fee related to the exit of LAI.

This -- excluding this item, our core earnings were $0.23. Looking at some components of our $15.4 million of investment income this quarter. Interest income of $9.6 million was primarily flat this quarter and included approximately $200,000 of prepayment fees from the realization of Anexinet. Our dividend income was also flat as expected at $3.8 million and reflects dividends from C&K, Copperweld and the Logan JV.

The increase in other income over -- quarter over quarter was related primarily to the $1.5 million exit fee we mentioned earlier. On the expense side, total expenses for the quarter were $6.5 million, compared to $7.5 million in Q1. This decrease were mainly due to the lower management fees reflecting the reduction of our management fee became effective April 1. This has been reflected as a waiver ahead of the formal shareholder approval in June.

Interest and fees and borrowings were also lower versus Q1. Q1, if you may recall, included approximately a $400,000 onetime charge in connection with the acceleration of deferred financing cost incurred in connection with the downsizing on our revolving credit facility. As a reminder, we expect a reduction in this facility will save approximately $425,000 per year in unused fees. Unrealized depreciation during our quarter, which drove the NAV decline that Chris mentioned, was primarily isolated to the credits previously identified, Charming Charlie, LAI and the Logan JV, and was offset by markups in Copperweld and a number of other positions in the portfolio.

The net realized loss of $24 million in Q2 was formerly related to our sale of LAI and was largely offset by the corresponding change in unrealized depreciation. From a leverage and liquidity perspective, leverage levels remained at the 0.8 times range at June 30, but fell below to 0.75 times with the repayment of Fairstone in early July. We anticipate maintaining leverage in the 0.75 to 0.8 times range in the near term. With that, I'll turn the call back to Chris for his closing remarks.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Terry. We appreciate this opportunity to update you on our continued progress in Q2. Hopefully, you have a better understanding of our efforts to reduce risk and transform the fundamentals of our portfolio. We believe continued diligence and execution of our plan is a clear pathway to a more stable and predictable return for our shareholders.

Thank you, and we look forward to your questions. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator and we'll start the Q&A.

Questions & Answers:


Thank you. [Operator instructions] Our first question comes from Lee Cooperman of Omega Advisors. Your line is open.

Lee Cooperman -- Omega Advisors --Advisors

Thank you. Thank you very much. Good morning. How are you doing, Chris.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Good, Lee. Thanks.

Lee Cooperman -- Omega Advisors --Advisors

Good. Good. I had three questions. I'll just put them out there and handle them any way you want.

If I take the $0.23 of core earnings over your $8.49 book, we are 10.8% in equity. Is that a number that you think is reasonable, given the way you run the business? Do you think you can enhance upon that return, etc.? So kind of question one is, the ROE target likely to be achieved in the business model -- I'm not interested in the next quarter or two, I'm just looking at over the next 12, 18 months, what is a reasonable target for return on equity for the shareholders given the way you want to run the business in the future? Secondly, the cost to management, taking a full fee with your new arrangement, the cost of management expressed in basis points, percent whatever, so we have a gross return on equity, net return on equity. And third, I think you gave me the answer is the status of repurchase program. You bought -- you have $15 million authorized, you spent $8.4 million.

There's $6.6 million left, and is that correct? And what is your time frame assuming the stock is where you want to buy it, sort of spending the $6.6 million? Thank you very much.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Perfect. Thanks, Lee. Appreciate the questions. I'll take them in probably inverse order.

The math that you outlined is correct. The $15 million program, we have approximately $6.6 million left at our current buying velocity. We anticipate that to be fully utilized in the next two to three months. To your first question regarding the dividend.

I think as we sit back and set the dividend at $0.21, we took a number of factors into consideration, potential stress in our portfolio, what we think the new earnings strength should be as it relates to the type of assets that we're booking and then the potential, when appropriate, of putting in incremental leverage on the books. As I sit back and think about the highlights of the quarter, obviously disappointed on the writedown of Charming Charlie, but with that, couple of other factors were still able to cover our dividend at 110% at these lower leverage levels is something we feel very good about. So as I look out into the future, I believe the $0.21 is very, very strong. It's something that we support.

The other comment regarding the appropriate return on equity. We're in the 10% to 10.5% range. I think most BDCs, they trade at/or around book are in the 9.5% to 10.5% range. So I think that's appropriate.

Your second question, I was a bit confused on is it the cost of management -- could you specify what you're looking for a bit more detail please?

Lee Cooperman -- Omega Advisors --Advisors

Well, basically I guess the cost of management is the 1% management fee plus 17.5% of the profits above the 8% hurdle. I guess, is the way to look at it, I guess, right?

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes, [Inaudible].

Lee Cooperman -- Omega Advisors --Advisors

You're saying after all cost, you think you're going to earn about 10%, 10.5% on your equity?

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

On a fully loaded basis, Lee, we think we can earn that 10% to 10.5%, right. Yes.

Lee Cooperman -- Omega Advisors --Advisors

Right. Gotcha. OK. And that's the questions.

Very good.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

All right. Perfect.

Lee Cooperman -- Omega Advisors --Advisors

I have other questions but we'll do those offline. Thank you.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Right. Thanks, Lee. Appreciate it.


Thank you. And our next question comes from Kyle Joseph of Jefferies. Your line is open.

Kyle Joseph -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys, and thanks for taking my questions. I thought you guys did a good job outlining the strategy shift, but I just wanted to go back over any sort of incremental risks do you see to NAV from here? I think you've outlined two potential assets that, I don't know, were causing you to lose sleep or, I guess, you were focused on. But beyond those two and given the concentration reduction, as well as the portfolio rotation, are you pretty confident in the remaining NAV?

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Kyle, thanks. Appreciate the comments. As it relates to the portfolio, kind of regardless of the performance of the business, anything that's concentrated is a heightened sense of focus for us.

It's been a core comment since the last 18 months. We want to reduce any exposure that's over 2.5% regardless of the company being performed. We highlighted OEM and Holland, OEM, as discussed, is our single largest investment. With that said, the business itself is performing fine.

We highlighted Holland as another example, given that we took a small markdown in that this quarter given some industry headwinds. But our focus is -- settle along is to diversify some of the risk associated with our historic portfolio construction by exiting these names and replacing them with substantially more diversified pools of assets. And I think that's the critical component of -- why the fundamental part of our business is working so well. We had a lot of transactions over the last six months and the BDC was able to participate given the overall size of the broader platform, but do so on a much more diversified basis, which once that rotation is complete, will substantially reduce the overall risk of the portfolio.

Kyle Joseph -- Jefferies -- Analyst

That makes sense. Next question. You guys talked about potentially increasing leverage on the balance sheet. Just interested in your thoughts given sort of the -- an evolving rate environment.

Would it be primarily focused on increasing the bank line? Would you seek alternative debt financing options?

Terry Olson -- Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer

Kyle, this is Terry. I think -- look, I mean, we've got some -- we've got capacity under our existing facility to achieve the leverage levels that Chris outlined under our new construct of 1.05 to 1.15. So I don't think we'd have to change the size of our facility. Obviously, we still need to go through the process of amending that.

So given the amount of folks that have gone through that process, I'm confident that that level of leverage can be achieved. I think more importantly, before we go to that path, as Chris highlighted, I think it's important to us to move on from these concentrated positions and further diversify, as we outlined. So we kind of expect the two things to happen in tandem with the -- and as a result be able to just utilize more of our existing facility.

Kyle Joseph -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And one last question for me. Appreciate the color you guys provided on Charming Charlie, LAI, Holland, etc.

But in terms of the rest of your portfolio, the majority of the portfolio, I just want to get a sense of what sort of trends you're seeing from the top and bottom-line prospective, particularly over the last few months as we've seen a little bit of more macro volatility out there.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. No, I appreciate the question. I think the good news is that we step back and think about our historic our legacy portfolio and our new portfolio. Since 2014, over 90% of the loans we've originated are performing at/or above expectations.

So I think the team has done a very good job not only selecting credit better but also underwriting and structuring credit better. So the overriding portfolio, what I call, the new strategy, new assets is performing in line or above expectations. So that feels good. There's some select pressure, as we highlighted on Holland.

It's one of the remaining energy credits and it's obviously facing some volatility and some headwinds. The good news there it's a first lien investment, so we have a lot to say in how that plays out, but now we do see some industry pressure there on that Holland. But the rest of portfolio itself, especially the new things we've underwritten are all performing very well.

Kyle Joseph -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Got it. Thanks very much for answering my questions.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Thanks, Kyle.


Thank you. And our next question comes from Robert Dodd of Raymond James. Your line is open.

Robert Dodd -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Hi, guys. On -- I appreciate the color on LAI and Charming Charlie as well. I mean, obviously the comment on LAI that the -- the delay resulted in deterioration of value. Any potential risk of that kind of thing at Charming Charlie? Obviously, in liquidation, A, is there -- and your covered marks reflect what you anticipate the liquidation value to be, but how sensitive could that be to potential delays in that process?

Terry Olson -- Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Thanks for your question, Robert. This is Terry. Charming Charlie only has about $600,000 or $700,000 of value ascribed to it at June 30.

So that would be the maximum exposure. That being said, that reflects our estimated recovery through the process as it relates to the assets at June 30.

Robert Dodd -- Raymond James -- Analyst

OK. OK. And then on the noncore control, I mean, you said making progress, and then also the current dividend should continue. I mean, obviously if we look at Copperweld and C&K, they produce a pretty attractive dividend yield on a combined equity fair value.

So can you give us any more on the timing of that or whether there is an incentive to basically keep those a little longer, obviously, this concentration risk, and I don't necessarily think you should but does it create incentive since they produce such an attractive dividend yield while everything else is gone?

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Robert, this is Chris. Appreciate the question. We played that game before. We're not going to hold what we believe to be concentrated or higher-risk positions in an effort to support or chase the dividend.

We're not going to do that. If you look at those two names, we don't disagree that the businesses have been restructured, they perform well, they are paying us a nice dividend. And when we anticipate those being sold, our expectation is that that derisks and provides further diversification on our balance sheet, we can continue to enhance and support the dividend by taking lower-risk positions and utilizing slightly higher leverage. And I mean, that's a much more appropriate way to play in this market as opposed to taking outsized, concentrated equity positions and implying the dividend.

So don't disagree with your math. We see it, but we do believe as we get those proceeds in, and that balance sheet affords us to take leverage up slightly, that's the way we'll offset the pressure there and can maintain the $0.21.

Robert Dodd -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Got it. Got it. Good. Thank you.

I appreciate the comment. I agree with you.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Perfect. [Inaudible] same page.


Thank you. And our next question comes from Ryan Lynch of CBW. Your line is open.

Ryan Lynch -- KBW -- Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. I wanted to talk about -- you guys had a really good slide, Slide No. 15, of decreasing noncore assets. Obviously, the top-left bucket, nonincome-producing investments, those are probably -- don't have a lot of credit risk.

But in those other three buckets, you've done a pretty good job of reducing subordinated debt to 2%, but you still have about 5% back on lien and about 9% unsponsored investments. I was just wondering, as you look at maybe those three debt categories on that slide, how do you guys kind of view that from a risk standpoint? And is it more urgent to get rid of the subordinated debt, which you guys have done a better job of doing, versus the second lien versus the unsponsoreds?

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Appreciate the question. I think as we sit and look at the portfolio from a security mix, be it second lien or mez, I'd say we're more focused on the individual asset as opposed to the type of security. Anything that's second lien or mez, we want to reduce, but what will be driving our decisions on going to be more of the underlying portfolio company itself versus the related security, if that makes sense.

Again, when you originate some of these loans in an effort to drive a higher yield to support the dividend, you're taking on that incremental risk. And I guess -- and we're not going to do that any longer. So you want to exit all of these. It's a unique situation in a portfolio like this.

When the business is performing, your ability to exit or reduce isn't always apparent, it takes time. So there needs to be some catalyst to that that enables us to raise our hand to try to reduce or exit. And so I can assure you, when given the opportunity, we're doing those across both mez and second lien.

Ryan Lynch -- KBW -- Analyst

Sure. I guess you talked about the big writedowns this quarter were in LAI and Charming Charlie, which were identified troubled credits in the past, and we're hoping to move past those and look forward. But as I look at again, the Slide No. 15, 9% of your portfolio is still in unsponsored.

As an outsider, analyst, looking in, it's tough for me to decide. Does that -- the 9% nonsponsored, does that still hold a significant amount of risk that could potentially be a downside to NAV for the future? So how confident are you with those remaining four portfolio companies to represent about 9% of your portfolio that are unsponsored investments?

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes -- no, that's a great question. It is an area of focus. If you think about it, that 9% is approximately four names. There's small stuff, pieces and like Wheels Up that's very small that's performing.

OEM is the vast majority of that box. So it's our single largest investment. We control the debt and we control the equity of that investment, so we control that business. If you go back over time, if you watched our -- the capital structure, we had a change in management going back almost 18 months.

We've injected capital into the business to stabilize it. So, the business has now stabilized. We've got a very good team running it. I believe we're positioning the business for sale.

But -- so from a confidence of segment, we feel good about the businesses that we control, each of those businesses. Copperweld would be another example. I guess, that's a business that has had very similar history. It's just running its course faster than OEM, but it's had a few markups in that over the last two quarters.

So the OEM is listed is an area of focus not based on performance, again it's just based on size, It's an outsized position. I wish it was more diversified. We're working as hard as we can to take that risk off the table and redeploy that capital, but it's going to take time -- a bit more time to finish the transition.

Ryan Lynch -- KBW -- Analyst

OK. That's helpful commentary surrounding those. Thank you for the time today for answering all my questions.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Ron.


Thank you. And currently, I'm showing no other questions in the queue. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Chris Flynn for closing remarks.

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Perfect. Thanks, operator. We want to thank everyone for joining us on this Q2 call. To the extent folks have additional follow-up questions, feel free to reach out.

We look forward to giving you an update of our Q3 results in the coming months. Thank you.


[Operator signoff]

Duration: 33 minutes

Call participants:

Sabrina Rusnak-Carlson -- General Counsel

Chris Flynn -- Chief Executive Officer

Terry Olson -- Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer

Lee Cooperman -- Omega Advisors --Advisors

Kyle Joseph -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Robert Dodd -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Ryan Lynch -- KBW -- Analyst

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