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Pelosi announces commission to invoke 25th amendment and remove Trump

The On the Move panel discuss Nancy Pelosi’s announcement of a commission to allow Congress to invoke the 25th amendment and remove Trump from executive duties.

Video Transcript

ADAM SHAPIRO: There's so much politically to talk about. One of the best people to help us understand what it all means, especially in an election, is Rick Newman. Especially when Nancy Pelosi, she won't come out and say 25th Amendment, or does she, in the bill that she's now putting forth in front of Congress?

RICK NEWMAN: Well, I think-- I don't know if she says 25th Amendment in it or not. I haven't read the bill. But I think I know exactly what she's doing. I think she's just trying to troll Trump. I mean, she knows how to get under Trump's skin. And she might even enjoy getting under Trump's skin. And I think that's exactly what's going on here.

If there is any political purpose to it, it's just to keep Trump off balance in the last few weeks of the election. I mean, anybody who's watching should know there's no chance this bill she wants to pass regarding whether Trump is fit to be serving right now will ever become law. I mean, the Republican Senate won't even take it up, so it's purely symbolic.

But look, Nancy Pelosi knows what she's doing. And what she's doing is perpetuating this conversation about whether Trump is too sick to be serving right now, what the contingency plans need to be, and obviously question his overall fitness for office as he runs against Joe Biden.

DAN HOWLEY: Rick, is there anything that could come of this at all, or is it just a political play, part of the theater that's been going on and, really, you know, as you said, kind of her way of just needling Trump publicly and, you know, really getting under his skin that personally?

RICK NEWMAN: It's total political theater, but yes, something could come of it. I mean, what Pelosi is trying to do is just, she wants to keep this idea in the slipstream of information that everybody's kind of floating around in right now. So the more jet headlines and Twitter posts and Facebook posts she can generate about, you know, raising questions, is Trump fit to be president, the more she keeps Trump off message.

Trump keeps himself off message, so he doesn't really need that much help. But Pelosi is going to try to just keep him dancing all the way through November 3rd.

JULIE HYMAN: Yeah, there already was a documentary out called "Unfit," which looked at President Trump's mental fitness to be president, but that even predated his latest illness.

I also want to ask you about the Trump appearing in public, right? Because he's said to do, what, an interview, unmasked, and then there's talk about him resuming rallies because he got a doctor to give him the all clear, I guess.

RICK NEWMAN: Trump going to Trump. I mean, he is-- I think it is really deeply hurting him that he is stuck in the White House phoning into Fox News and doing these canned videos, while Biden is out campaigning in the swing states. So I mean, Trump really does need to get out and be talking to voters.

But let's look at what he's actually doing. I mean, the one thing I've detected about Trump's strategy at this point is, he just really is retreating to friendly audiences. He pulled out from the debate, which I think was a mistake and just makes him look like he's running away from a debate because somebody might be able to use a mute button on him.

And now he's talking about instead of having debate, he wants to have rallies. I think right about this point, he's actually on Rush Limbaugh's radio show co-hosting. I mean, that's just, he's preaching to the choir, obviously a conservative audience. So if all Trump does for the next 3 and 1/2 weeks, or however long we have, is talk to people who already support him, I mean, I think failure is just a foregone conclusion.

He needs to be doing two things. There still might be 4% to 5% of voters who are undecided. You need to be talking to them. And he does need to be getting out some disgusted Republicans, just convincing them to get out and vote. And if all he's doing is talking to people who are willing to show up at a rally and take the health risk that entails, he's just preaching to the choir. And I don't think that's going to change anything.