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Wayne County Board of Canvassers Vice Chairman: President Trump is 'playing with people’s lack of understanding of election processes'

Wayne County Board of Canvassers Vice Chairman Jonathan Kinloch joins Yahoo Finance's Kristin Myers to discuss the latest on Michigan election results.

Video Transcript

KRISTIN MYERS: With Jonathan Kinloch, who is the vice chairman of the Board of Canvassers in Wayne County. He is going to be joining us now by phone from Detroit. Jonathan, thank you so much for hopping in and dealing with all of those technical--


KRISTIN MYERS: So I know you heard some of the tweets from President Trump earlier where he was alleging fraud in Wayne County, and specifically even in the city of Detroit. He mentioned that 71% of the votes were out of balance. So just to throw it over to you, are the votes out of balance? And are you guys seeing evidence of fraud in the county?

JONATHAN KINLOCH: Absolutely not. And President Trump and his description of what occurred in the city of Detroit in the state of Michigan specifically is totally not true. When you speak about a precinct being out of balance, we're talking about a clerical-- most likely clerical errors as it relates to how individuals closed out the night, how individuals basically notated issues that they had inside of the particular precinct.

It's not that votes were not tabulated and that it's not that votes weren't counted or that weren't supposed to be counted or any of those things that they're claiming. They have people voting. All those allegations have been found to be unsupported. And it's just that the president and his team failed to recognize the fact that they lost the election in the state of Michigan.

And they are attacking the Black vote in Detroit and elsewhere around the country because they knew that that was a place that his base would likely expect these challenges.

KRISTIN MYERS: Now, Jonathan, I hear what you're saying. But 70% or 71% of votes out of balance, does that not at all cause any level of concern? It does seem like a pretty large number. Or is this kind of pretty typical with elections, that you're going to see this sort of mismatch in the ballots and in the votes?

JONATHAN KINLOCH: It's not about the ballots. It's all-- we're talking about the when you say a precinct is out of balance, you're talking in this canvas-- and he's absolutely wrong. There's no comparing the August primary to what we saw in the general election. Absolutely no comparison.

The issue that we're talking about is probably around 438 ballots, 436 ballots that we're talking about that are questionable. That's what we're talking about, out of 800,000 ballots that were cast in Wayne County. So we're talking about individuals not notating properly, when ballots were jammed inside the detabulator, that they did not notate. They may have ran envelopes twice through the machines.

So we're talking about just human errors. We're not talking about fraud. We're not talking about corruption. We're talking about the typical issues that are seen in every election across America. And what he's doing is playing with people's lack of understanding of election processes. And at the top of the individuals who don't obviously understand how elections are run in this country is the president of the United States of America.

KRISTIN MYERS: All right, so we talked a little bit earlier at this show about that recount in Wisconsin, the president asking for a partial recount there. And, you know, when the Republicans on the Board of Canvassers failed to certify the result, you called it reckless and irresponsible. I'm wondering if you think that Detroit voters are being undermined by all of these allegations of fraud that are being levied right now by President Trump and a lot of his Republican allies.

JONATHAN KINLOCH: Let me say this. They never have had a respect-- I think his entire life, he's never had a respect-- had any sort of respect for Black people. And I'm going to say that, from the way that he has treated them as employees, to the way that he's making-- made statements, or his lack of willingness to push back against white supremacist organizations.

So no, this president and his base has continued to disregard Black folks' contributions in this country, and more importantly, our involvement in this election. They are-- if you look at what they're targeting, where they're targeting, they're targeting places where there's no human chance possible for them to actually gain any doggone realistic votes that would turn or change the outcome of the election. They are actually focusing in on Black communities in every one of these places where they're saying that they have issues with the election votes.

So no, I believe that this is not-- this is just more fanning of flames of division in this country. It's building up what I believe a point of him acknowledging the fact that he lost the election and sort of keeping him ready and mobilizing his people for a possible run in four years. That's all that I believe this is about at this particular point. He knows he has lost this race.

KRISTIN MYERS: All right, well, strong words there. Jonathan Kinloch, vice chairman on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, thank you so much for joining us. I'm glad we were finally able to have that conversation.

JONATHAN KINLOCH: Thank you. I appreciate that. And I look forward to talking to you soon.