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Sell Stocks, Buy Cows: Casey

Feeling lost in your quest for fresh money-making opportunities these days? Well, you're not alone. Even a globe-trotting speculator like Doug Casey, whose namesake firm, Casey Research, prides itself on being "intensely curious, focused on facts," says there just aren't many good places to hide anymore.

"Good investment ideas are not thick underfoot these days," says Casey. "The next few years will be marvelous from the point of view of a speculator, but horrible for the average guy." Casey's definition of a speculator is not a gambler or a trader, but rather someone who capitalizes on politically caused distortions in the marketplace, and he's expecting a lot of them. As such, and not surprisingly, Casey loves gold and hates the dollar.

On the former, Casey sees the bull market in gold eventually entering a "mania stage," which he thinks could push it to $5,000 an ounce. Even so, he says the recent run-up to $1,500 is cause for "hesitation." Still, broadly he advises that people "should own a lot of gold."

As for the dollar, and major currencies in general, his commentary is more caustic, as he blasts the long-term washout that looms as a result of "trillions of currency units that all these stupid governments are creating."

Casey openly does not like to link his predictions with timelines. He says in the years to come, the dollar will trade to its intrinsic value (as in -- be worth the paper it's printed on), which "will be quite ugly." This despite his belief that "the EU is going to fall apart and euro will cease to exist" within the next five to 10 years.

And there's more sunshine where that came from.

Casey says "your biggest single risk is political. You must diversify so all your money isn't in the control of one government." He says he's heavily diversified outside of the U.S., and "bought a lot of agricultural land in Argentina." True to his word, Casey now spends most of his time living and investing in South America.

So if you already own gold and you're not moving to South America, what else looks good?

"I am a big believer in cattle," he says. "I recommend building herds, both dairy and beef," because he says it's probably the cheapest major market he can think of. Interestingly, he has no interest in trading cattle futures.

And if you're not quite ready to embrace farming, he has one other suggestion: "I would be short bonds. You can make a killing doing that."

So there you have it. Just when you thought your pessimism could not be eclipsed, Doug Casey comes forth and sets a new benchmark for bearishness. Let the commenting begin! Or write to us at breakoutcrew@yahoo.com.

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30 comments

  • Joseph  •  11 months ago
    Respectfully, you farm investors have no idea what you are talking about. I own a farm. A small farm. I have 10 cows. Cows aren't wild, they need labor. You can't "make money" with 10 cows. I paid almost $10,000 (you could buy some junk cows for maybe $500 each). The land is additional - and there are no good paying jobs near smelly farm animals. I pay labor to help take care of them. The cows need fencing (steel is expensive), watering systems, barns. Oh, and feed all winter. I think you people are talking about buying an agribusiness with 10,000 cows. I can crunch the numbers on my spreadsheet, but you probably need over 100 cows to break even. OVER.
    • Ed 11 months ago
      I also own a farm, and I can't afford the fencing even doing most of it myself. So I have been making and selling hay. You can't make nearly as much money, but I don't have to feed in the winter. I have to bust butt during the season, like now. I can't afford all of the equipment, so I have to share crop, doing some operations and having others done in exchange for part of the hay. I have to echo a lot of what Joseph is saying about cattle. Any less than about 100 cows is a hobby farm. I think you need more than 150 cows to come close to breaking even with expenses. He mentions some cattle expenses but there are others, too, like salt, some grain feed, and veterinary (even if you do some yourself). Land expenses will include real estate taxes and maybe some lime and fertilizer.
    • UruguayNumber1 11 months ago
      yea, but he's saying own cattle in Argentina/Uruguay/Brazil, not USA
    • jdat747 11 months ago
      I'm thinking he has a few more than 100 head.
  • Mike Johnson  •  11 months ago
    The large producers have moved ot South AMerica cheap land, lower taxes, no interference from gov.. The US is on a downward slope now and there is no way out of it. I own 120 head own land buy no feed! I barely break even now. Its bad.
    • A Yahoo! user 11 months ago
      Hang in there Mike. Some of us, like myself, appreciate what you guys do.

      I have a hobby farm with hogs. It's a LOT of work. I couldn't imagine running cattle.
    • Mike 11 months ago
      Get off computer and get your S#!t kickers on and hit the fields and maybe your profit margin will swell. Just a thought.
  • David  •  11 months ago
    The guest uses the word cattle, and he is accurate. The city folks, i. e. media call them cows. To call them cows is like flying over a football stadium filled with 80,000 fans and saying "look at all the women" Cows are the female version of cattle. You need bulls to fertilize the cows and many of the male offspring are castrated and made into steers. I'm tired of the women who run the media making these mistakes!
  • Rex  •  11 months ago
    Cattle rustlers are not a ���thing of the past��� they do exist and when cattle are high as they are now you will get a large number stole. They will be in the slaughter house by daylight and their skins removed. You literally have to stay with them and yes you have to have your assault rifle and other weapons (the rustlers also have the same type weapons). Law enforcement is a joke. ; raising cattle is not an easy life. I have had property I could not use because of thieves. Well anyway YEEHaaaa !!! :)
    • UruguayNumber1 11 months ago
      lol, where do you think this is? This certainly doesn't happen in Uruguay. I moved from USA to Uruguay, and I've seen/lived firsthand the estancia life here.
    • Rex 11 months ago
      I���m glad things have worked out for you. I believe the USA���s national debt along with Obama���s socialist agenda, you will be very happy you moved to Uruguay. If the current trend does not stop the USA will be a very different country in 10 years. I have Margaret Thatcher���s viewpoint of socialism: The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people���s money���Russia, Argentina, Spain, Portugal���and Greece.
    • Mike 11 months ago
      USA social agenda started about 1945. dont blame O bammmy. And if this incessant whining dont stop, in ten years I will be late for the door.For all the whiners-- Dont like it here try Haiti or Tibet or any Muslim country. And I BET you have not given up your U.S.citizenship while in Bufu land Mr #1. rsvp
  • sayre  •  11 months ago
    This new trend of city folks touting farming as the way to get rich is totally nuts. They have no idea of the capital, risks, and unbelievably hard work involved (not to say the manure smells). Most of them have been no where near to the back side of a cow. For those of us who grew up on farms and have farm families, we know the incredible uncertainly, trials and tribulations of farming over the years. The cattle farmers I know have been on the edge for years and many of them are in it because it's in their blood, not because it's a wall street type of get rich thing. Let's hope it changes in the next years for them, but don't hold your breath.
  • Elmo  •  11 months ago
    No political risk in being a foreign owner of South American farmland. Right.

    The piece of his advice that makes the most sense is to diversify.
  • Exiled Angel  •  11 months ago
    I like Doug Casey, partly because he is such an original thinker. Dismiss him at you peril. Just remember that he likes to focus on the long term trends and ignore the daily fluctuations that he perceives as only noise. A few of his quotes:

    ���Currencies are artificial abstracts created out of thin air by the governments.���

    ���Increasingly desperate states will be the greatest risk to your wealth.���

    ���One thing you can count on is that the government never controls itself. What it does is control its subjects.���

    ���The U.S. dollar will eventually reach its intrinsic value.���

    ���[What politicians are doing] is not only the wrong thing, it is the exact opposite of the right thing.���

    ���One of the definitions of stupidity is an inability to correlate cause and effect.���

    ���The Constitution in the U.S. is a dead letter. It has been parsed and interpreted out of existence.���

    ���Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.���
  • UruguayNumber1  •  11 months ago
    Uruguay! That's where I went!
    • Robert Yerns 11 months ago
      I am also interested in hearing about Uruguay. Do you have a blog?
    • Stephen 11 months ago
      how do you like it... Money making opportunities ? Good infrastructures ?.. thinking it might be a good place to move to.
  • Rock Solid Truth  •  11 months ago
    Actually you don't want to be in cattle.......they are going belly up faster than can be counted......what you want to be in is corn....since the ethanol industry and all chicken hog and beef corporations are competing for the same climate dependent resource.

    During deflation....farmers get killed.

    Now owning your own farm to feed your family and the entourage of tribe members you are supporting....that is the best idea yet....especially if coupled with a propane generator system...a huge solar power plant...well water and water filtration system.......chickens, hogs which will eat anything, goats and sheep for vegetation control. You are set. Very few places in America where you can set this up affordably......but Argentina and Chile......

    And I fully concur on Argentina and Chile....the soil that is being mass farmed there is still quite young and full of nutrients...unlike our thirty year overfarmed and depleted topsoil in the US.
    They are growing the most spectacular fruit and vegetables there........and the meat tastes like meat.......like it did when I was growing up in the 60's. The wineries are world class...some of the best Cabs and Merlots come from chile and argentina grapes......

    The have a boomlet to sustain purchasing power for the next thirty years. Farming is a big part of their lifestyle (still....unlike the US)

    You do have the vocanoes and earthquakes and a california pacific influenced climate...so it has some hazards ....but a hillside farm in argentina.......that is the life for me -- green acres is the place to be.
    • Brian 11 months ago
      Don't forget Brazil. It's expensive now for Americans due to the strong Real. I've been here for ten years now though and have made a killing. Ready to move to the farm now. We got warmer weather and lots of water. In the interior land is still very reasonable relative to many places.
    • Toadaly 11 months ago
      As the dollar collapses, prices will *skyrocket* not decline. With governments around the world racing to print money faster than the next guy, the risk of deflation is nonexistent. Hyperinflation is the real risk.
    • Mike 11 months ago
      Sounds great until some one sticks a gun in your face to take what you got. Or do the people there have all they need?.Just wondern fella.
  • Caius Ironheart  •  11 months ago
    Cattle right now are the asset to own. Corn is at the top of its curve and setting new highs. Thats not the time to get into a market. We are seeing rationing due to price of the corn crop already. Ethanol gets its share and the rest fight over the scraps. Remove the ethanol mandate in the USA and see 30 percent of the market evaporate.

    As to cattle, we have the smallest cow herd in the last 40 years and what appeared to be the year the expansion began is actually another year of liquidation due to drought in Texas and Oklahoma. This year I sold weaning steers for a record (for me) price. Short term, with the western herd liquidations and no grass or hay there to support more cattle look for price dips. Thats the time to buy, when things are down and looking up rather than up and looking down.
  • Sir_GreenThumb  •  11 months ago
    Smart move buying farm land. Food prices are going to get very pricey in the years to come. People will start digging up their lawns in order to replace it with all kinds of fruit and vegetable plants.

    Growing grass is nonsense during these times. Unless its used to feed them cows ;)
  • Katy C  •  11 months ago
    The Greenies have a plan to get rid of cattle due to cow gas. You won't be able to buy enough carbon credits to keep them.
  • michaelc  •  11 months ago
    I hope that Doug is just kidding about buying cows. As any stockman knows, you can lose your shirt in the cattle business . It is almost as dangerous as gambling in Las Vegas.
  • fred1617  •  11 months ago
    When investors with no connection to agriculture start buying farm land and cattle, you know there's a bubble there. Look out. You've been warned.
  • James  •  11 months ago
    I took your advice and my landlady is giving me Hell! Any advice for that??
  • Shailesh Shah  •  11 months ago
    Invest only what you know very well. I know gold bought At $500,5 year ago, Microsoft Bought $17.0,coffee GMCR ( bought at 20 three years ago) Caterpillar, john deer,

    My point is invest only you know.I told my friend invest in stock market, He told me I do not know, I know only how to run convince store and he invest all his saving in that and now he got 17 store.
    so be care full and do only you know or expert.
  • Michael  •  11 months ago
    Is it me, or does "Breakout" becoming just a program for highly pessimistic people who are basing their investment thoughts on odd political ideology?
  • Steak 101  •  11 months ago
    How does Casey feel about working and/or buying land in the Philippines? Lots of rain and great farming areas.
  • Mike  •  11 months ago
    I will give you all some great "business" advice free of charge. Only one business I know where there is very very little overhead. Pencils ready children? Home painting. Couple of brushes a ladder and some old clothes.Paint is bought by client up front. Rest---profit. Oh you dont like this idea because it involves REAL work? Sie la vie. Now I hope all those painters out there aint mad now that the secret is out.
  • Goldensach  •  11 months ago
    Can't wait till the hedge funds have to liquidate all that farm land they are bidding up, I'll buy some on the cheap. Trouble is once everyone spends all thier US dollars because they think they will be worthless, no one will have any dollars in which they will need to pay the bills and buy food, they will have to sell all the crap they bought to pay taxes and buy food, yet no one has any cash to give them for it because they too need the cash for food and taxes, so they take whatever they can get for it and sell at a loss just to raise the cash.

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