Q2 2023 Sterling Bancorp Inc Earnings Call

Participants

Thomas M. O'Brien; Chairman, President & CEO; Sterling Bancorp, Inc. (Southfield, MI)

Walter Bertke

Presentation

Operator

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Sterling Bancorp's financial results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2023. Joining us today from Sterling's management team are Tom O'Brien, Chairman, CEO and President; and Walter Bertke, Controller. Tom will discuss the first quarter results, and then we'll open the call to your questions.
Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements with respect to the future performance and financial condition of Sterling Bancorp that involve risks and uncertainties. In particular, forward-looking statements may be made on this conference call regarding to the economy and financial markets, government investigations, credit quality, the regulatory scheme governing the company's industry, competition in the company's industry, interest rates, the company's liquidity, the company's business and the company's governance.
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Additionally, management may refer to non-GAAP measures, which are intended to supplement but not substitute for the most directly comparable GAAP measures. The press release available on the website contains the financial and other quantitative information to be discussed today as well as the reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP measures.
At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Tom O'Brien. Tom?

Thomas M. O'Brien

Thanks very much, Jamie. Good morning, everyone. Hope you're all enjoying the summer months. We released our second quarter earnings today. And as you saw, we announced a profit of $0.05 a share, probably adjusted down to $0.03 in an operating level.
The bullet points in the press release, I think, really tell the story of what's kept us busy during this second quarter. Obviously, the NIM got a lot of pressure, doing large measure to the interest cost of the sub debt, a little over 11%. I think the impact of this cost was more acute in both the first and second quarter as overall rates kind of plateaued and debt ratcheted higher. So we were anxious to get that redeemed, and we'll have a little bit of impact in the third quarter on that for about 2 weeks of cost, and that will be the end of it.
The bank remains highly liquid, obviously very well capitalized and -- through the company's efforts and all the work involved in the various investigations kind of the cost and outcomes of those different investigations. But I think we're at the point now where we can actually begin to make some strategic type plans for the institution. That's been not available to us the last couple of years, primarily because we had to focus on the ever-present investigations from the different government agencies really precluded us from doing much of anything strategically other than getting out of the very deep penalty box we're in. So I think prospectively, the opportunity for us is certainly clearer now. And I do think this quarter mostly represents the final chapter of the company's turnaround. I think particularly the [outsized] expense load that we've been carrying in will begin to moderate and the benefit from all of the different actions we've taken over the last few years will begin to bear some fruit as our financial performance becomes more predictable.
We will continue to fully cooperate with the DOJ and the OCC in their ongoing investigations into individuals conduct. But again, that's -- the Sterling Bank and Sterling Bancorp are through that process, and we're in the final stages of settling out the -- the DOJ settlement was approved by the court just recently, and for those who might be interested, there will be a special master appointed by the court within the next few weeks and that special master will then determine the process for shareholders who are eligible submitting their claims. Eligible shareholders would be none insider shareholders and those who purchased the stock in the period between the IPO and late 2019. So that process will become explained by the special master once that's established, and we will -- we're prepared to fund that as soon as that is required.
I would add kind of generally though, that the cost to repair Sterling, obviously, no secret, but it's been an enormous drain on our shareholders, and the consequences of bad decisions and bad behaviors is something I've dealt with and witnessed my entire career. And I guess the only thing I can say is there's just no upside to short-term thinking in this business. Things continue to happen time and time again, but there's -- the price you pay is so outsized benefit that you might receive. But as I mentioned, we'll continue to cooperate with the agencies as they pursue their other investigations. But I think from the bank's perspective and the company's perspective, we're pretty well looking at all the stuff in the rearview mirror.
The -- Walter is on the call with me who is our Controller. And I just -- Walter, can you just kind of give a little bit of color on the impact of the net interest margin in the quarter and the impact of the sub debt and what you might expect would be the impact going forward from redeeming the sub debt?

Walter Bertke

Sure, Tom. So this quarter, our margin of 2.64% declined 29 basis points quarter-over-quarter. As Tom had mentioned, it was largely due to the increase in cost of our deposit base. As we look at the impact of the sub debt, we redeemed in mid-July. So we will have two weeks of the expense in the third quarter. But the sub debt and then the impact on short-term cash would be a margin compression that we calculated of approximately 23-basis-point impact in the second quarter that [won't] continue into the future.

Thomas M. O'Brien

Yes. Good. The level of interest rates right now and the competition for bank deposits, that's kind of a funny turnaround from a year or so ago. I think the outcome of the failures in March continue to reverberate in the industry. And I suspect there will be a continued high premium on liquidity and some careful review of tangible common equity and the impact of AOCI in the industry's financial statements and more particularly on the impact of held-to-maturity securities. Obviously, as I've mentioned, I got -- many, many times, we carry no held to maturity. And our available-for-sale securities are generally relatively shorter term. So -- but nonetheless, there is market exposure there, but nothing of unusual consequence.
So with that, probably best to take questions because I always kind of hear what's on people's minds and learn more about everybody's thinking. So Jamie, if you want to open it up for questions, ready to do.

Operator

(Operator Instructions) And gentlemen, at this time, I'm showing no questions. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. O'Brien for any closing remarks.

Thomas M. O'Brien

Okay. Thank you. I suspect the summertime has had several of our normal questioners either busy -- yesterday, obviously, we had two announcements in the banking industry with one in Virginia, and obviously, back [Westdale] California, but that may be some sense that -- give us some sense that the capital markets are kind of becoming unfrozen and more friendly to transactions and conversations among banks. So I think that's certainly welcome news. And the -- the balance of the -- the process in the capital markets will be determined over the next few weeks and months. And as I said, I think there's probably some reason for good optimism in terms of valuations and opportunity throughout the industry.
So with that, I certainly hope everybody enjoys the August period as we kind of get into the second half of the summer, and we'll look forward to the opportunity to be together on the third quarter conference call in October. So thanks very much.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll be concluding today's conference call and presentation. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.