Q2 2023 TrueBlue Inc Earnings Call
Participants
Derrek L. Gafford; Executive VP & CFO; TrueBlue, Inc.
Steven C. Cooper; CEO & Director; TrueBlue, Inc.
Taryn R. Owen; President & COO; TrueBlue, Inc.
Jeffrey Marc Silber; MD & Senior Equity Analyst; BMO Capital Markets Equity Research
Kartik Mehta; Executive MD, Director of Research, Principal & Equity Research Analyst; Northcoast Research Partners, LLC
Marc Frye Riddick; Business and Consumer Services Analyst; Sidoti & Company, LLC
Mark Steven Marcon; Senior Research Analyst; Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division
Presentation
Operator
Greetings, and welcome to the TrueBlue Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce you to your host, Derrek Gafford, EVP. Thank you, Derrek. You can begin.
Derrek L. Gafford
Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. I'm joined by our Chief Executive Officer, Steve Cooper; and our President and Chief Operating Officer, Taryn Owen.
Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that today's call and slide presentation contain forward-looking statements, all of which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and we assume no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. These risks and uncertainties, some of which are described in our press release and in our SEC filings, could cause actual results to differ materially from those in our forward-looking statements.
We use non-GAAP measures when presenting our financial results. We encourage you to review the non-GAAP reconciliations in today's earnings release or at trueblue.com, under the Investor Relations section for a complete understanding of these terms and their purpose. Any comparisons made today, are based on a comparison to the same period in the prior year, unless otherwise stated.
Lastly, we will be providing a copy of our prepared remarks on our website at the conclusion of today's call, and a full transcript and audio replay will also be available soon after the call.
Okay. Let's turn the call over to Steve.
Steven C. Cooper
Thank you, Derrek, and welcome, everyone, to today's call. Revenue for the quarter was $476 million, down 16% compared to the prior year. Our results reflect an environment of softening demand. While the broader economy remains mixed with some traditional indicators showing resilience and others highlighting caution, when it comes to the staffing industry, the recessionary sentiment has already taken effect. Economic uncertainty is weighing on our customers, and we're seeing that manifest in the demand trends across all three of our segments.
Given the tight labor market, clients continue to focus on retaining employees, but they're also increasingly focused on reducing costs. As a result, clients are becoming more selective on which jobs they choose to fill. While, the number of job openings across the United States remains high at about 10 million, the jobs added in recent months have been primarily in professional and permanent roles. For manufacturing, wholesale and retail trade, which involve more blue-collar positions, and where we play a larger role in the market as well as with temporary help overall, the number of open jobs has declined year-over-year.
While the challenging macro environment is leading to lower staffing of volumes, clients still need help finding talent to fill critical roles. With our decades of experience and breadth of services, we know how to find the right talent for our clients. Even though current demand levels are not what we'd like, the long-term outlook for staffing remains positive, and really comes down to a matter of timing. We're often viewed, as an early indicator for broader trends, being that we're usually first in and first out, when it comes to economic cycles. We take pride in helping our customers through these challenging times and are prepared to help them, as the macroeconomic environment improves.
Now, I'll turn the call over to Taryn, who will provide additional detail about the actions we're taking today, as well as our growth strategies for the future.
Taryn R. Owen
Thank you, Steve. Staying highly engaged with our clients remains critical, as they adjust their workforce needs in response to cost pressures within their businesses. This is a high priority for our sales and service teams. With PeopleReady, we are focused on sales, providing excellent service and being responsive to our customers' needs. We are enhancing our sales training and our on-demand business, increasing the velocity of business development efforts by leveraging our centralized teams and have embedded account managers to cover new markets within skilled trades.
While, most of our clients are acting with caution, the renewable energy sector continues to present a strong growth opportunity for us, as our portfolio expands and our pipeline remains healthy. We are targeting further expansion in this area, as well as other high-growth industries.
At PeopleScout, we have entered the health care sector, which has shown greater resiliency to market pressures. We are targeting further sales efforts in this vertical, as well as other recession-resistant industries. For clients who remain hesitant to make long-term workforce commitments, we are leveraging our short-term offerings, such as recruiter on demand to meet their current needs while building the relationships that will drive growth in the future. We are also expanding our reach with complementary service offerings in the recruitment media and consulting space.
With PeopleManagement, we are aligning our go-to-market messaging around reducing the complexity for our clients. Many businesses are looking to rebalance and consolidate their service provider portfolio which creates opportunity for us to gain market share. Our short-term project and flex offerings allow us to support our clients in this challenging macroeconomic environment and ensure that we are ready to scale as they return to growth. These efforts, combined with our ongoing commitment to employee satisfaction and technology transformation, underpinned by our mission to connect to people and work, help ensure that we will continue to be ready to meet our clients' evolving workforce needs.
I'll now, pass the call over to Derrek, who will share further details around our financial results.
Derrek L. Gafford
Thank you, Taryn. Total revenue for Q2 2023 was $476 million, a decrease of 16%. We are in a climate of softening demand with revenue for the quarter coming up 4 points short of our midpoint expectation. Clients are certainly becoming more cost conscious with many of our clients making the choice to only fill their most critical job openings, while taking a wait-and-see approach for other jobs.
We posted a net loss of $7 million, down from net income of $24 million in Q2 last year. Included in our results is a noncash impairment charge of $9 million. The impairment charge is mostly tied to a goodwill write-down in PeopleScout's MSP business, in conjunction with lower demand expectations. Adjusted net income was $5 million down from $27 million, while adjusted EBITDA declined to $11 million versus $39 million.
Gross margin of 27.4% was down 40 basis points. This was driven by a drop in PeopleScout revenue mix and a mix increase in PeopleReady's renewable energy business, which carries a lower gross margin than the blended business, in part due to contingent employee travel expenses that do not include a markup. This was partially offset by better workers' compensation results from the favorable development of prior year reserves, as well as disciplined pricing in our PeopleReady business. Our PeopleReady business delivered its ninth consecutive quarter of positive spread between bill rate and pay rate inflation.
SG&A decreased $1 million or 1%. In the prior year, there was a $3 million benefit in incentive-related costs associated with the departure of our CEO. Excluding this event, SG&A was down 3% in Q2 this year. In Q1 this year, actions were taken to reduce costs by about $10 million and similar actions were taken in Q2, bringing the total cost savings for this year to about $20 million. We are also seeing additional inflation in our costs, most notably medical benefits, which is a factor in our cost savings netting to about $10 million for the year.
Despite our pretax loss, we incurred $1 million in income tax expense for the quarter, primarily due to the nondeductible nature of the goodwill impairment charge. For the year, we expect income tax benefit of $2 million to $3 million as a result of our job tax credits exceeding the income tax associated with our pretax income.
Now let's turn to the specific results of our segments. PeopleReady is our largest segment, representing 57% of trailing 12-month revenue and 59% of total segment profit. PeopleReady revenue decreased 13%, while segment profit decreased 60% and segment profit margin was down 340 basis points. The retail industry is currently our most challenging vertical, due to the lower volumes flowing through distribution centers associated with excess inventories. And next in line are clients in the transportation service industries. Declines in these 3 industries range from 25% to 40%.
On the flip side, construction is our most resilient market. Our renewable energy business was up 100%, an acceleration from growth of 50% in Q1, and the rest of our construction business was only down about 10% in Q2. We're maintaining strong pricing discipline to help cover the inflation in our SG&A expenses. The business produced a positive spread between bill and pay rate inflation with bill rates up 8.5% and pay rates up 7.6%.
PeopleScout is our highest margin segment, representing 13% of trailing 12-month revenue and 30% of total segment profit. PeopleScout revenue decreased 33%, while segment profit decreased 57%. And segment profit margin was down 820 basis points, but still produced a healthy segment profit margin of 15%. Demand was softer across an assortment of industries with some clients initiating hiring freezes, and some attempting to use internal resources to fill jobs. Demand for our services has also moderated as many of our clients are seeing lower levels of employee turnover in comparison with peak levels in the prior year.
PeopleManagement represents 30% of trailing 12-month revenue, and 11% of total segment profit. PeopleManagement revenue decreased 13%, while segment profit decreased 47% and segment profit margin was down 100 basis points. Demand declined in both on-site and commercial driving services as economic uncertainty led to lower client volumes.
Now, let's turn to the balance sheet. The balance sheet is in great shape. We finished the quarter with $50 million in cash, no debt and $200 million of borrowing availability.
Before we wrap up, I'd like to take a moment to provide additional color on one of our forward-looking items. We expect a revenue decline of 16% to 12% in Q3 2023. While, the midpoint decline of 14% is an improvement compared to the Q2 decline of 16%, this is driven by a less challenging prior year comparison. For additional details on our outlook, please see our earnings presentation posted to our website today.
I'll add one more thought, before we close. Though, we are not currently where we want to be from a performance perspective, we are excited about the opportunity ahead of us, when the macroeconomic environment improves. We believe the supply of blue-collar labor will remain tight for quite some time, and we are well equipped to help businesses of all sorts to fill this critical workforce need. In the meantime, we are focused on positioning ourselves for a strong recovery by staying highly engaged with our customers, staying true to our service and technology commitments and remaining disciplined on costs.
This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the call for questions.
Question and Answer Session
Operator
(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets.
Jeffrey Marc Silber
That's close enough. Let me start first with PeopleScout. I know you don't give specific guidance by segment, but that was a pretty sharp decline year-over-year in PeopleScout. Was it sudden? Were there some large accounts that left? If you can give us a little bit more color on that speed drop.
Derrek L. Gafford
Jeff, it's Derrek here. And, I know your last name, I got you here, okay? When it comes to the PeopleScout drop this quarter, it's important for us to also talk about what happened in Q2 last year. If you remember, in Q2 last year, we talked about that we had our all-time record on quarterly revenue with PeopleScout. So, we were already trending at some pretty high levels because of the level of high turnover and churn that was happening in the employee base of our customers. And then, we had a really big surge.
So, not only that created an all-time peak for us, when it was about from a revenue perspective, it also created a peak for us from a gross of an operating margin -- excuse me, a segment margin perspective. So, as we're taking a look at the year-over-year comps for PeopleScout, it's given an exaggerated revenue decline based on that peak and the same goes with the segment profit margin. So, as we look towards our guidance for Q3, we would expect that this would drop down to about a 20% revenue decline. So more moderate, as we get past that comp of Q2 last year.
Jeffrey Marc Silber
All right. Is it possible to get similar color for 3Q for both PeopleReady and PeopleManagement?
Derrek L. Gafford
Yes. So for PeopleReady in our guidance, so I'm just going to give you the midpoint of the ranges versus quoting a range in each segment for [tax] purposes. So, PeopleReady down around 12%. PeopleScout down around 22%. And PeopleManagement down around 13%.
Jeffrey Marc Silber
Okay. That's really helpful. I appreciate that. In looking at your debt, and I'm referring to Slide 7, there seem to be some pretty sizable changes from last quarter. I think last quarter, you had kind of strategy and highlight the priority of how you're looking at like the current business priorities with different bullet points. What changed so dramatically? I mean, we were seeing declines in your business last quarter. What happened in the second quarter to kind of update this framework?
Derrek L. Gafford
Well, what we decided to do, we have a roadshow deck that also has our big picture strategies in it. And we thought it would be more suitable to just keep that in the roadshow deck. And based on how we're operating right now, what's going on with the industry, what's going on with buying behaviors, that would be more helpful to talk about what some of our current operating priorities are in the field. And so, the debt that you see here that we put in the line really with what you heard in Taryn's prepared comments. So you get Taryn's prepared comments and those carryover and summarized form into the deck that you're referring to.
Jeffrey Marc Silber
Got it. So just a change in focus in the presentation, not a change in overall business strategy. I understand. If I can just sneak in, one more. We're hearing about this potential massive UPS strike this week. I'm just wondering, if UPS is a client? And if not, do you serve some of the other logistics companies like FedEx or some of the smaller companies? How do you think this might impact your business?
Derrek L. Gafford
Yes, UPS is not a customer of ours in the other names that you mentioned in that space. We don't do much business with them. However, we do have commercial driving practice that you know of, a center line that's, call it, a $150 million run rate of revenue. So, it could have some impact there. And then, I think us, like many other industries, there could be some ripple impacts to the industries we serve indirectly, but no direct exposure to the business units that you're referring to here.
Operator
Our next question is from Marc Riddick with Sidoti.
Marc Frye Riddick
So, I was wondering, if you could talk a little bit about -- I mean, certainly -- I appreciate the color to the details around some of the verticals and some of the things that you're seeing with the verticals. I was wondering, if you could talk a little bit about if there was sort of -- was there any seasonal aspect, for instance, around the retail concerns or issues? Or are there sort of more the overall general macroeconomic that we're seeing with some retail? We've certainly seen a lot of restructurings, bankruptcies, et cetera. So I was wondering, how much of that might be a function of seasonal consumer weakness or anything like that versus just maybe just the mix of the specific retailers you may have under your umbrella?
Derrek L. Gafford
Yes. You're right, Marc. The retail industry, if we were to pick one, where we're seeing the most pressure, it is certainly that industry. We pointed out not from a seasonal perspective but really kind of from an underlying fundamentals perspective. So, if we take a look at where we stand on a year-over-year basis or how things have moved from the first quarter to the second quarter based on where we would expect volume to be based on our historical patterns, retail has shown a weakness in both sets.
A lot of this comes back to while the fact that there's still some -- an adequate level of retail spending, where our work, it's not in the store, right? It's actually in the distribution operations. And we've still got many customers that are long on inventory, and we're seeing less volumes flowing through those centers, and that's translating into less volume requirements from our customers that are using our services.
Marc Frye Riddick
Okay. That's certainly helpful. And then, one of the things I was sort of thinking about is for all the challenges that the industry has seen the bill pay spread has generally. I was wondering, if you could talk a little bit about maybe what your thoughts are there, as far as the planning going forward as to whether your level of comfort as to how that might play out through the remainder of the year?
Derrek L. Gafford
Well, we have to stay pretty disciplined on our pricing, and this is our ninth consecutive quarter having a positive spread between bill and pay rate inflation, and we think that's warranted because down in our SG&A section, we're having to do a lot more work to find people. And we're spending more time and energy to find people and to screen people to deliver the kind of candidates at the quality level that our clients expect.
So, as we take a look forward, we're going to still stay disciplined on that pricing. But, we also want to be -- make sure we continue to stay very in touch market by market. These dynamics are different in different markets and in different geographies. And we want to make sure that we also don't get priced out. I would expect we'd see the pay rate inflation, maybe take a step down a point or so. As we go into the back half of the year, the pay rate inflation diminish a bit. But, we would still expect to maintain a positive spread based on the tightness of the labor pools to the back half of the year.
Marc Frye Riddick
Okay. And then, I was wondering if you could talk a little bit, are there any particular areas that you may see maybe seeing some positive activity, whether it's like anything that maybe is a call out that maybe we haven't talked about yet something, whether it's an industry vertical or a geographic area, anything like that, that we should sort of be thinking about that sort of might begin to be turning the time?
Taryn R. Owen
Marc, this is Taryn speaking. Thanks for the question. Certainly, a bright spot for us from an industry perspective is in our renewable energy business, particularly around solar farm installation. So, we're seeing some good results there, a healthy pipeline with just a good opportunity to continue to grow that segment, and it's not slowing down. So, we've got some positive results there.
Derrek L. Gafford
Yes. And just to add on to that, Marc, we're really pleased with that business. Where the country is moving from a renewable energy perspective, we think we've got a lot of opportunity there. There's some legislation passed last year, putting some more investment into this industry. You take a look at our energy business, renewable energy business, it's up to high single digit now, as a mix of our revenue. We -- on a year-over-year basis, that business doubled. Sequentially, it was up 50%. So that is definitely one of the bright spots, not just here for our earnings this quarter, but going forward. And we've got a really great team that knows how to serve this business. We've been serving this business for a while, and I think that we can really take advantage of a good opportunity to help a lot of customers in this space.
Operator
Our next question is from Kartik Mehta with Northcoast Research.
Kartik Mehta
Steve and Derrek, I think you both have said that TrueBlue has been very price disciplined. I'm wondering, if that's because of what you're seeing in the marketplace and competitors being aggressive in their pricing? Or you were just pointing out that you haven't gone down that road?
Derrek L. Gafford
Well, the pricing in our industry has always been competitive. It still is competitive. And we have never generally been the cheapest price in a given market. So, we feel like we provide a really good suite of services, particularly, I'm talking about staffing right now versus RPO in the blue-collar space. We think we're really suited to take good care of customers here where we are now, and in the future based on our experience.
So we are seeing discipline on the pricing there. I think, that's both a function of how we are operating and where we're choosing to play and how we're choosing to price in certain markets. And, probably the biggest thing overall is where the labor supply is. When the labor supply is this tight, there's a certain amount of pricing power that the market has in general. That's not to say that there's some that aren't out there cutting prices and trying to take market share that way. We're just choosing not to play there. And we haven't seen a big change in that dynamic now, versus where we were really a year ago.
Kartik Mehta
And then, just for the PeopleReady and PeopleManagement business. I'm wondering what the trends were like throughout the quarter, if they stayed steady, or if you saw an acceleration? And Derrek, if you're able to give any kind of color on how July has performed.
Derrek L. Gafford
Yes. So let's just talk about numbers from a revenue trend perspective for the quarter. So, when we came out in April, revenue was down about 14% overall for the company. It's about where we thought it was going to be. It's very consistent with our guidance. As we moved into May is when we started seeing some additional softening. And so, revenue on a year-over-year basis for May was down 18%. We exited the quarter in June at 17%, and that has really carried itself into July. We're looking at about -- I'm kind of normalizing things, things are a little lumpy at Fourth of Degree -- 4th of July holiday, but you know about 17%. I believe our last week, we reported here internally for the month of July was down 17%. So relatively consistent on a year-over-year basis with where we exited the quarter.
Operator
Our next question comes from Mark Marcon with Baird.
Mark Steven Marcon
I was wondering, can you talk a little bit more about PeopleManagement, just in terms of what you're thinking about for the core holiday season? How are clients thinking about ramping up that business?
Derrek L. Gafford
Well, as far as the fourth quarter, it's still a little early for us, Mark. There's been a lot of puts and takes around what's going on from a retail perspective, as opposed to some other competitors in the industrial staffing space. From a manufacturing perspective, our business there has held up pretty well. I would say, although I can't see their books, I think that our mix is a little bit more geared towards food, and consumer packaged goods than some of the others that may be reporting here. And so for us, manufacturing has really kind of held up in the low teens, as far as year-over-year pressure. As far as what we're looking at for the fourth quarter, if we don't see any more softening this quarter, we're just basing on our internal expectations on an as-typical type of ramp-up with historical patterns. But a lot of moving parts right now. Hard to say.
Mark Steven Marcon
Okay. And then I'm wondering, if you can give a little more detail with regards to some of the comments that you made on PeopleScout. You did indicate there were certain verticals that were a little bit more challenged. I'm assuming the retail comments were more around PeopleReady, not PeopleScout. So if -- could you correct me, if I'm wrong? Or what verticals were the most soft with regards to PeopleScout?
And for July, are you trending in that down 22% range? Or is that down 22%, a little bit better than what July is actually showing for PeopleScout?
Derrek L. Gafford
Okay. I'm going to do my best to answer some of your questions a lot, to come right around to that 22%. All of our comments that I made from an industry vertical perspective were based at PeopleReady. I think that's the best proxy to talk about what's going on industry-wide. It's a nice big population set of a lot of customers. I think -- and so yes, with retail, this was all really directed towards the PeopleReady business. Although, I would say that would also carry over into our other staffing business at PeopleManagement.
When it comes to PeopleScout, I don't think that it's productive to talk too much about industry trends. Especially, when you get done on a quarterly basis, one customer can really set the whole trend for an industry. So we tend to not get into those industries much. But what I will say is that the pressure that we've seen at PeopleScout, it is pretty broad-based across all the industries. Particularly, when we're looking at year-over-year because Q2 last year was such a boom quarter, and a record quarter for us, we have some really tough comps that we're facing.
Mark Steven Marcon
And so Derrek, are you -- in July, or are you still seeing that down 22%? Or is the down 22% a little bit more a function of like later in the quarter?
Derrek L. Gafford
Well, I'm not sure what the down 22% is. I do remember talking about in the month of June being down total company about 17%, and that carrying into the similar trend in July, around 17%.
Mark Steven Marcon
I was referring to the guidance that you were giving to Jeff Silber with regards to the midpoint of the guidance was down 22% for PeopleScout.
Derrek L. Gafford
Everything that we've seen so far here is on track to deliver the 22% midpoint that I suggested. We haven't seen anything that would throw that off track.
Mark Steven Marcon
Okay. Great. And then, can you talk a little bit about what you did in order to preserve the margins there because it was a fairly sharp down on a sequential basis, but you were able to preserve the margins? How should we think about -- obviously, you cut certain expenses. But how far along are those? And how should we think about further cost cutting on a go-forward basis? And where -- what you would hope to achieve from a margin perspective, if things are a little bit worse than what you're expecting?
Derrek L. Gafford
Yes. What we're talking about PeopleScout right now, Mark?
Mark Steven Marcon
PeopleScout and then broadly speaking.
Derrek L. Gafford
Got you. Yes. So for PeopleScout, the year-over-year trends are a bit distracting. So to put it into perspective, the PeopleScout margin in all of 2022 was 14%. Q2 this year was 15%, so higher than the average of last year and actually took a step-up of a couple of points from where we finished the first quarter. So, there have been a lot of adjustments that have been made. And so, those have mostly been in different staffing levels. Those adjustments were made throughout the -- in the first quarter, almost all of that hit the run rate here in the second quarter.
So with permanent placement, it's one of the areas that deleverages the most. So, while this is certainly some tough sledding on where we're at as an industry and as a company at this particular point through the year, we're really pleased with where PeopleScout is showing, turning a 15% margin. So that's really how we built the structuring in place was to keep this margin in the -- between 10% and 15%, low to mid-teens, let's call it, throughout the rest of the year. I think, we're positioned to do that. If things take another step down, well, at PeopleScout and talking about the company overall, we'll make some adjustments.
That's what our business is about. It's about workforce flexibility for our customers. So, we're pleased to be helping serve them, and as they adjust their workforce needs down. And when that happens, we have to be agile as well and make adjustments. So we've done set of actions in Q1, actions in Q2. If things continue to soften more, we haven't seen that yet, we'll make some more adjustments.
Mark Steven Marcon
Okay. Great. And then on the workers' comp positive accruals, were those all concentrated in PeopleReady? Or were those across the board? And how should we think about the balance of the year? I would assume that you should continue to see those sorts of positive accruals just given the conservatism with the initial accruals.
Derrek L. Gafford
Yes, that really all falls in PeopleReady. Really, what you've got going is some positive development on reserves put up in prior years. While the dollar amount in Q2 this year versus Q2 last year was in the same ballpark, it's -- we've also got less revenue. So those positive reserve adjustments now, as a percentage of revenue are showing up a little bit larger. That's really kind of the main thing. And as we look forward to the year, you can take a look at our gross margin guidance. We're expecting margins to be up in gross margins year-over-year in Q3 and Q4. So there's a lot of puts and takes in all of that, including workers' compensation. But I thought, it was just easier to go to the main thing and talk about the overall gross margin profile, but we do expect it to be up a bit versus last year.
Operator
Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Steve for closing comments.
Derrek L. Gafford
We'd just like to thank all of you for joining us here today, and we look forward to updating you on our Q3 results in October. Thanks, everyone.
Operator
This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
