Q3 2024 Agilysys Inc Earnings Call

Participants

Mayank Tandon; Senior Analyst; Needham & Company LLC

Presentation

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Agilysys Fiscal 2020 Fourth Third Quarter Conference Call. As a reminder, today's conference may be recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jessica Hennessy, Senior Director of Corporate Strategy, Investor Relations at Agilysys. You may begin.

Thank you, Justin, and good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for joining the Agilysys Fiscal 2024 third-quarter conference call. We will get started in just a minute with management's comments, but before doing so, let me read the Safe Harbor language. Some statements made on today's call will be predictive and are intended to be made as forward-looking within the Safe Harbor protections of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements regarding our financial guidance.
Although the Company believes that its forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ materially. Important factors that could cause actual results to vary materially from these forward-looking statements include the hospitality industry's need for technology solutions, our ability to drive sales and increase market share, our ability to increase profitability and risks set forth in the Company's reports on Form 10 K and 10 Q and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
As a reminder, any references to record financial and business levels during this call refer only to the time period after adjusting has made the transformation to an entirely hospitality focused software solutions company in fiscal year 2014. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Ramesh Srinivasan, President and CEO of Agilysys. Ramesh, please go ahead.

Thank you, Jess. Good evening. Welcome to the Fiscal 2024 third quarter earnings call. Joining Jeff and me on the call today at our Atlanta headquarters is Dave Ward, our CFO. Let me first cover sales before discussing revenue and other details, we mentioned selling success and sales in annual contract value terms with respect to sales, I don't want to confuse matters between calendar and fiscal years but please allow me to make one quick comment. Calendar 2023. That is the period from January to December with our best ever calendar sales period, calendar 2023 was an extraordinarily successful 12 month period for selling success, and we think the pace of sales will only get better in the future.
Now switching back to fiscal year, as we have reported before the previous fiscal year FY 2023, the period from April calendar 2020 to March calendar 2023 was our best fiscal year for sales success since at the end of the first three quarters of this fiscal year, FY 2024 is progressing ahead of last year's pace compared to the first three quarters of the previous fiscal year. Sales during the first three quarters of fiscal 2024 has seen significant year-over-year year to date improvements across the Asia Pacific region and in the U.S. across the hotels, resorts and cruise ship verticals.
Sales from gaming casinos continues to be a major strength area for us and remains the number one vertical in terms of overall sales value we've also seen significant year-over-year sales increases during the first three quarters of fiscal 2024 compared to last year's first three quarters in the value of noncompetitive wins, meaning sales to current customers where there is no competition involved and in the value of new customer wins, sales of POS point of sale, software solutions, InfoGenesis guest facing by kiosks and guest facing remote ordering tool on-demand have also been significantly higher this fiscal year to date compared to the prior year, while sales of certain property management systems, PMS products and related add-on modules have done better this year than our other PMS. modules, which are yet to pick up momentum.
We like our fiscal 2024 sales momentum and expect to do even better in the future now that our products are at an excellent spot and we are steadily increasing the number of customer success stories based on the use of the reengineered modern versions of the products and new modules created now that we are in the process of moving past the product reengineering phase in our journey to become a world-class hospitality focused enterprise software provider. Our next objective is to create good reference customers who are seeing success with our new and integrated product ecosystem and are willing to discuss it with others. And that number continues to increase with every passing month.
In fact, in the upcoming March 18th to 21st annual user conference, we are dedicating an entire breakout session track for customers who are going to talk about their success stories with our recent product innovations. While on the subject of a user conference with about eight weeks ago, the number of customer registrations to attend the conference this year is about 25% higher than during the comparable time last year. Yes, during Q3 of fiscal 2020, for October to December, we added 18 one eight. We added 18 new customers and all but one of those deals were subscription-based, though the number of new customers added each quarter remains steady for now, the average number of products sold to each customer this quarter is the highest level we have seen thus far.
New customer PMS deals closed this quarter included an average of about seven products each while each deal deal included an average of 3.4 products and overall, each new customer agreement included an average of 4.6 products. The average deal size sold to new customers during the first three quarters of fiscal 2024 was about 30%. Three zero was about 30% higher than the new customer average deal size last fiscal year in annual contract value terms, we've already sold more value of sales to new customers during the first three quarters of this fiscal year compared to all of last fiscal year during fiscal 2020. For Q. three, we also added 63 new properties, which did not have any of our products before, but the parent company was already our customers in terms of sales value to such new properties.
This was our highest quarter since last fiscal year. Q3 of the 81 new properties added during the quarter across new customers and new properties of current parent customers close to 90%, nine zero, close to 90% when either partially or fully subscription base. With respect to new product sales, there were 88 zero. There were 80 instances of selling at least one additional product to properties. Charlie had at least one of our other products currently in use these 18 sensors involve sales of a total of 183 new products.
We continue to have a long runway of sales and revenue growth ahead of us, both within the existing customer base and to new customers starting now it's a matter of establishing our modernized state of the art technology base, new products and modules at an increasing pace in the field and reaching the flywheel stage of our reputation growth. We now have the capacity to grow regardless of travel spend trends. If such trends are good, that will be great and tailwinds are always helpful.
But given our current very low market share, especially on the property management system, PMS side of our business, we can grow well, even if such trends are not great. We've also set ourselves up well for growth across a broad base of possibilities in practically all the verticals we play in currently, gaming casinos, hotels, hotel chains, resorts, cruise ships and managed services and are not dependent on one or two big wins. And of course, we have a long growth path ahead in international regions as well.
Given our current low market share and two, it is a matter of establishing credibility and notoriety with more high-quality implementations during the quarter, one of the biggest and most prestigious resorts to open in Asia and recent times, the Inspired Entertainment Resort in Incheon, South Korea near the Seoul airport opened successfully using a whole array of the most recent versions of our POSPMS. and seven experience enhancer add-on solutions for a total of nine products implemented.
It's also good to have a POS used at the ongoing Australian Open tennis tournament in Melbourne I personally also enjoyed a few friends and acquaintances calling me to let me know that they notice the Agilysys name at food outlets at the recently opened casinos in Las Vegas Durango station and Fontainebleau and also at one of the other major Vegas properties, which hosted the recent CES. show at this property, the various food outlets are in the process of moving to Agilysys InfoGenesis POS from a competing system. And some of the attendees noticed the Agilysys name, which was cool. First, spreading news of successful implementations and customer value creation using the most recent versions of our Hospitality Solutions ecosystem will be key to our future growth. Yes.
Back to the topic of sales wins during the quarter, there were 11 new core property management systems, PMS wins during the quarter across new customer, new site and new product, making it among our best quarters in history. In this regard, still small numbers and very early days with our TMS business. But the momentum is building given our TMS product strength has never been better than it is now the core PMS products and related modules are there where we've always wanted them to be at.
And now it is a matter of creating more great references in the field, which we are making good progress with we are a credible presence in the TMS space now and an increasing presence in most PM as RFP processes like has been the case with most point-of-sale POS RFPs for many years. Once we get ourselves in the game, our end to NPM as ecosystem of products, all cloud native with the capability to also work on premise, gives us great odds to win. We are competing against very well entrenched PMS competitors who have dominated the space for a long time, but we are gaining ground increasing property management systems.
Pms sales will also help sell more additional software modules asset at about four times as many add-on modules with BMS has there are bits, Felix, the significant PMS wins during the quarter included mount Princeton Hot Springs Tucson. This historic resort in Colorado has been in service for more than a century with several amenities and offering visits to natural Hot Springs Mall. Princeton selected core POS and PMS products, along with several experience enhancers add-on software solutions.
Among the significant point of sale POS wins this quarter was dot University in Sioux center, Iowa, other than the InfoGenesis core POS product. This will also include a purchase of guests, self-service kiosks and licenses for remote mobile ordering, kitchen display system and our payment solution. Higher education is another growing sales vertical, whereas current market share is low. Growth opportunities are high and strong integration partnerships with other vendors, including with one of the major campus card providers, continue to differentiate us in the market. Yes.
Now on to revenue and profitability, fiscal 2020 for Q3, revenue was a record 60.6 million. That is six-zero 60.6 million. The eighth consecutive record revenue quarter 21.3% higher than the comparable prior-year quarter, including product revenue of $12.7 million, which was 18.5%. That's one eight 18.5% higher than Q3 last year. Fiscal 2024 is the 1st year bedding product revenue has exceeded $12.5 million in each of the first three quarters. One-time product and services revenue combined was a record $25.5 million, which was 28.8% higher than the comparable prior year period.
Apart from being a record sales quarter for services. This was also an excellent quarter for services revenue as the pace of implementations picked up considerably, giving us increased confidence in the recent modern versions of products becoming easier to implement and making a big positive difference for customers at various properties. Services revenue was a record $12.8 million, 41% higher than the comparable prior year quarter. Services margin of 32.2% was an impressive improvement over recent prior quarters and should contribute to services margins for the full fiscal year being slightly above our original expectation of 25%.
In addition, the extent of implementations completed in the field this quarter involving subscription revenue was the highest level we've achieved thus far measured in terms of annual recurring revenue, ARR worth of installations that obviously augurs well for continued good future subscription revenue growth. Speaking of subscription revenue, fiscal 2024 Q. three. Subscription revenue grew 29.9% year over year to a record 19.5 million. That is one nine to a record 19.5 million and overall recurring revenue grew 16.4%, one six 16.4% to a record 35.1 million. Subscription revenue constituted 55.6% of total recurring revenue compared to 49.8% in Q3 of last fiscal year.
In absolute number terms, subscription revenue grew by 4.5 million year over year, which is the highest level we've achieved till now comparing subscription revenue this quarter with the comparable quarter two years ago, total subscription revenue has grown by 67%. Subscription revenue from PMS and related additional modules have doubled in this two year period. Again, relatively small VMS subscription revenue numbers, no doubt. And we are only getting started with DMS growth now, but the trend is definitely increasing further.
Cms related subscription revenue has grown as much in the first three quarters of this fiscal year as it did during the entire last fiscal year. Fiscal 2024. Q3 was our best quarter thus far for revenue from international regions. Again, small numbers, but increasing progress with huge future growth potential, improving implementation services efficiencies helped reduce our combined product, recurring revenue and services backlog levels to about 85% of peak levels. We expect product revenue to be under a bit of short-term and ongoing pressure due to several reasons, including a lower starting product backlog and our POS systems now supporting all major operating systems, windows, iOS and Android, thereby giving customers more POS generic hardware options including off-the-shelf consumer-grade tablets and sleek all-in-one handheld devices.
This trend is good for our medium and long term and gives our POS products a clear competitive edge, but is expected to put some pressure on onetime product revenue. We have a good track record of managing well, the J-curve involved in the shift to a subscription revenue based cloud software company. And I'm confident we will manage as well the shift from even less hardware than the level we are at now and more subscription and other software in our revenue mix. We expect services and recurring revenue, including subscription revenue to continue to do well. We remain confident of achieving the recently raised full year full fiscal year 2024 revenue guidance range of 235 million to 238 million.
This should include continuing solid good subscription revenue growth. We expect full year fiscal 2024 subscription revenue growth to be comfortably in and slightly above the 28% guidance already provides fiscal 2020. For Q3, adjusted EBITDA was 19.4%. That was one nine 19.4% of revenue at $11.8 million, more than 35% higher than the previous highest level. And the first time we have even exceeded the 9 million mark, even after discounting for the fact that Q3 is normally a favorable quarter for us with respect to profitability due to the absence of Radius once a year, tradeshows and other one-time expenses.
Even after providing for all that, this was a good quarter for profitability as we continue to focus on achieving greater operational efficiency, we expect full fiscal year 2024 adjusted EBITDA to be 15% of revenue. That is one-five, 15% of revenue higher than the previously guided 14% level and our expectations of 13% going into the fiscal year, we will provide revenue range and other guidance for fiscal 2025 covering the period April 24th, March 25. During the year-end earnings call, mid to late May. With that, let me hand over the call to Dave.

Thank you, Ramesh. Taking a look at our financial results, beginning with the income statement. Third Quarter Fiscal 2024 revenue was a quarterly record of $60.6 million, a 21.3% increase from total net revenue of $49.9 million in the comparable prior year period. All three revenue lines increased compared to prior year compared to the prior year period with products of 18.5%. Professional services up 40.9% and recurring revenue up 16.4%, including subscription revenue increases of 29.9%. Sales momentum continued throughout Q3, with total active backlog remaining strong and at comfortable levels to reach our FY 24 revenue expectations.
We also remain pleased to see our total backlog increased by 6% over the comparable prior year period, despite a just a decrease in product backlog, implementation efficiencies and effectiveness of the services team, it continued to improve driving more subscription revenue earlier in the quarter. Product revenue increased 18.5% over the prior fiscal year to $12.7 million. The point-of-sale business continued to perform better than expected for the fiscal year.
However, we expect product revenue as a percentage of total revenue to continue to decline slightly and be in the 11 to 12 million range during our fiscal Q4 as more customers choose commercial grade devices and other all-in-one handheld devices to run our modernized POS software solution. We expect less contribution as a percentage of revenue from the onetime product revenue.
Professional services increased 40.9% over the prior period to a record $12.8 million. Professional services continued to be a strong leading indicator indicator for the health of the business. Professional Services backlog increased slightly back to record levels despite record professional services revenue during the quarter. We expect professional services revenue to increase sequentially in Q4 and grow north of 30% for the full fiscal year.
Most of our professional services revenue is related to implement implementation projects contributing to the acceleration of FY 24 subscription revenue development associated with larger projects with corresponding subscription revenue happening in future years has been less than 10% of services revenue during the past couple of quarters, total recurring revenue represented 58% of total net revenue for the fiscal third quarter compared to 60.4% of total net revenue in the third quarter of fiscal 2023.
Recurring revenue as a percentage of total revenue decreased slightly because of a 28.8% increase in onetime revenue consisting of products and professional services. Fiscal 2024 Q3 subscription revenue grew 29.9% over the comparable prior year period. Subscription revenue comprised 55.6% of total recurring revenue for the current period compared to 49.8% of total recurring revenue in the third quarter of fiscal 2023. Subscription revenue increased sequentially $1.2 million and remains at the high end of our expectations. The subscription subscription backlog remains strong and we expect subscription revenue to continue to increase between 0.9 and $1.2 million sequentially during the fiscal fourth quarter, putting the full year 2020 for subscription growth percentage between 28.7% and 29.3% for the year.
Moving down the income statement, gross profit was $37.8 million compared to $30.8 million in the third quarter of fiscal 2023. Gross profit margin was 62.5% compared to 61.7% in the third quarter of fiscal 2023. We are pleased to see gross profit margin back in the 60s, largely due to an increase in professional services margin 32.2% combined. The three main operating expense line items, product development, sales and marketing and general and administrative expenses, excluding stock-based compensation, were 43.1% of revenue compared to 45.6% of revenue in the prior year quarter.
Product development increased slightly to 20.9% compared to 20.6% of revenue in the prior fiscal year. General and administrative expenses decreased to 12 12.4% compared to 13.7% of revenue in the third quarter of fiscal 2023. Sales and marketing decreased from 11.3% of revenue to 9.8% of revenue, mostly due to expenses related to trade shows and other events happening in different quarters. This year compared to the prior year.
Operating income for the third quarter was 7.8 million, net income of 76.9 million and gain per diluted share of $2.85, all increased compared to the prior year's third quarter gain of $3.5 million, $3.4 million and $0.13 adjusted net income normalizing for certain noncash and nonrecurring charges of $9.3 million was higher than adjusted net income of $6.7 million in the prior year third quarter and adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.35 was more than $0.26 in the prior year period. In our fiscal third quarter, we had a release of a valuation allowance of $65 million, causing GAAP EPS to be higher than adjusted EPS.
After normalizing this one one-time item out through adjusted net income, the release of the tax related valuation allowance allows us to recognize existing U.S. federal net operating losses of around $175 million and associated state NOLs as deferred tax assets on our balance sheet with our accumulated earnings in recent years, plus our projects projected earnings going forward, it is now likely that we'll utilize the NOLs.
As such, the valuation the valuation allowance was released this quarter. For the 2024 third quarter, adjusted EBITDA was $11.8 million compared to $8.1 million in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA in Q3 FY 24 was 19.4% of revenue. Profitability for the quarter was better than expected, largely due to better than expected gross margin within our professional services and recurring revenue. Professional services margin improvement during the quarter was mainly driven by an increase in efficiencies across the team.
Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow statements, cash and marketable securities as of December third, as of December 31st, 2023, was $116.2 million compared to $112.8 million on March 31st, 2023. We remain comfortable with our current levels of cash. Free cash flow in the quarter was a gain of $11.3 million slightly less than a gain of $11.7 million in the prior year quarter. The decrease in free cash flow was largely attributable to an increase in accounts receivable balance and the associated impact of working capital. Our over 90 accounts receivable remains less than 10%. I'm totally for fiscal year 2024.
We remain comfortably in our revenue guidance range of 235 to $238 million, inclusive of 28% subscription revenue growth. We are also raising our profitability guidance for the full year from 14% to 15% adjusted EBITDA to EBITDA as a percentage of revenue and closing, we are pleased with the sales momentum, professional services improvements and revenue growth during the first three quarters of the year. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Ramesh.

Thank you, Dave. Our progress over the past six to seven years has involved, among other things, a massive overhaul of core products and the creation of an ecosystem of state of the art world class software solutions focused on the hospitality industry.
The past years have therefore been a product development R&D story for the most part. We also took massive strides forward in many other areas, but the highlight was clearly product development product development strength is going to remain and grow in a more tempered fashion in the future. But starting now our R&D efforts are going to be a lot more focused on customer acquisition and winning innovation now that the pressures of massive reengineering efforts are no longer there. Now the already built up product development strength will focus on increasing our competitive advantages in each of the products and modules as they compete for best of breed selection versus a variety of competitors and on enhancing the integrated ecosystem capabilities that very few competitors can match with us today, we cannot think of many other competitors who can match the breadth and depth of our solution ecosystem, all based on modern cloud-native technologies with the versatile ability to also work at customer sites who want to remain on premises for a while longer. We have done well to fill the technology and functionality, feature set innovation, Gap, giant hole in this industry and are now well positioned to translate that into growth and business success. Also now the business evolution will shift to the field.
Now the focus will be more on services, implementation efficiencies and helping customer properties realize operational gains and guests and staff experience improvements through the use of these new integrated product versions.
As we create more successes, we expect quicker progress towards the flywheel stage in our business. When this steadily improving engine will become an unstoppable force. Our total addressable market remains huge relative to our size and this industry and market is hungry for world-class technology solutions. We are seeing good sales growth across sales verticals and product verticals where our market shares have been low in the past, we are now a credible presence in the PMS arena, where our journey is only in the initial beginning stages. Our balance sheet remains clean and strong, and we remain disciplined with our growth plans. We believe all that adds up to a great probability of continued future success in creating solid good shareholder value during the short, medium and long-term.
With that, let's open up the call for questions, Justin, and thank you.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Tandon Mayank, Needham.

Mayank Tandon

Good evening formation. Dave, I was just curious on the outlook for 4Q. You obviously called out very strong sales momentum but if I look at the guide for 4Q, I think it calls for maybe a modest deceleration from 3Q levels. And then also the margin guide would be below 3Q levels. So I know I'm nitpicking a little bit here, but would just be curious if you could walk through some of the data points of that is reflected in your 4Q guide after the very strong sales momentum that you called out in the 3Q beat?

Yes. Thanks for the question. So we're expecting an acceleration in revenue in Q4. The commentary was really around the product line. We're seeing more of we're seeing more of our product run on off-the-shelf products. So we're seeing a little bit of a decline in the product, but we're still expecting professional services to increase sequentially and and our subscription should still increase between 900,001.2 million, basically all leading to revenue being up probably around a million over where we are today. So we're still expecting a sequential increase in revenue, but there will be a little bit of a pullback on the product revenue line.
So my end, when we started the year our revenue expectation of 30 to 35 million. We then raised our guidance last quarter to 35 to 38 and nothing has changed there. That still remains the case that we expect revenue to be two 35 to 38 million, just like how we guided at the end of the last quarter, and on the margin side, there probably there will be a little bit of a pullback in margin.
I mean, Q3 is just from an OpEx standpoint is just though a lower cost quarter. We just there's not as many trade shows, there's there's less of accruals for unused PTO. and all that stuff kind of takes back in our and our fiscal Q4, there's more trade shows. So again, it'll it'll pull back a little bit, but leaving the year higher than we exited last year, so north of 15%.
And again, as a reminder, we started the year thinking it will be 13%, Mike, and then we increased guidance to 14% EBITDA by revenue. And now we expect it to be 15% of revenue. So the margin capabilities of the company have steadily improved throughout the year.

Mayank Tandon

Got it. That's very helpful. And then as a quick follow up, Ramesh, on the international side. I'm just curious, I'm sure the competitive landscape is different, the growth challenges that defense. So what are the investments you're making to ensure that you win internationally and you've had already good success, but to replicate what you've done in North America. So maybe if you could just talk about the investment levels and what are some of the key initiatives to again ensure that you have success abroad just like you've had in North America both on the PMS and the POS side?

Yes. So the biggest investments we made over the last six, seven years has been in the products because we wanted to make sure that the products are capable of competing effectively in international regions and we built the products. So that they are configurable easily adaptable to the particular requirements of various countries while the core product remains the same.
So the first part of the answer to your question, the biggest investments we made in order to be more competitive and do better in A-Pac and EMEA, especially has been the product. So that's where we started.
So now the next stage of that evolution is greater investments in the services area where we are doing one successful implementation after the other and in our kind of business side and our kind of B2B enterprise software, you need reference customers like you need more and more reference customers. And we do have a lot of reference customers with our older versions, but we needed them in the newer versions. So that's what I mentioned that inspired the South Korea is a big example of that.
They went live in all our modern versions and they have been we are one of the top resorts to go live to get started in the recent past. So we are now focused on implementations and generating more highly referenceable customers. In the meanwhile, we are also increasing our marketing investments in international regions. And we have recently expanded our sales staff, especially in the A-Pac region where a couple of senior sales personnel, one of them from one of our competing companies has joined us.
So we are now investing in sales and marketing as well. So we have gone in that order like first improve the products make sure they are capable of being implemented and doing well in international regions. So that process is done now. We are focused on creating successful implementations there. In parallel, we are also increasing our sales and marketing.

Mayank Tandon

And this is all very helpful. Again, congrats on the quarter and thank you for taking my questions.

Thank you, Mike, and thank you and one moment.

Operator

Matt VanVliet, BTIG.

Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I guess as you look at specifically on the PMS side of the pipeline here, I guess how much of the build and sort of record levels that you're seeing there? Would you attribute to just sort of the product now being more modern and more easily deployed and integrated with other systems? And would you lend any, I guess, support to the more halo effect of having one mega deal and sort of getting into opportunities that might not otherwise have materialized?

Hi, Matthew. Yes, the Marriott deal has definitely given us credibility in the PMS area?

No question, right, because now there was a time before when we were not included in many of the Amazon fees and I can't blame customers for that. But now with the Marriott deal, we have credibility in our stuff to exclude assigned, which is all we wanted. Now in the meanwhile, there are also two other factors, Matt, one of them is the fact the product is in a much, much better state now and you cannot ignore it. And once you see it, you get very interested in it.
And so that's one factor. And a couple of other factors I would mention is number one, the market is hungry for innovation. So it at least in our opinion, the providers who have dominated the space. The innovation speed has not been that great during the past few years. So someone had to fill that innovation gap and customers find these products to be far ahead of the competition once they take a look at it.

And the biggest factor also is we built an ecosystem of PMS products. It's not only the core PMS. It's also all it's about 15 to 20 add-on experience enhancement modules around it, and many customers are preferring to reduce the number of vendors they deal with. It is not just a matter of making integrations easier. It is also a matter of pace of innovation like you come up with a good idea and goal for SPAR and you want a corresponding change in the PMS. It's much easier for us to do all those changes in the next release and customers love the fact. So I would say that the momentum that is building for us in S. is attributable to all those reasons.

One, the Marriott deal gave us credibility to the product is competitively at a much better state and we can answer yes, to both being in the cloud and on-premise. Third, this industry has always been a Huggies become hungry for those kinds of good products. And fourth, of course, the ecosystem of PMS products we have built. All that is contributing to our momentum.

Okay. Very helpful. And then you mentioned that less than 10% of services revenue is coming from, I presume, Mary up but the contracts that subscription will be in later years, is that sort of the appropriate level we should think about in terms of the mix over the next several quarters as you get closer to the rollout there and or should that uptick in? I guess with that, how would you correlate that with utilization rates across the services organization more broadly?

Yes, so I mean it should stay less than 10%. I mean, as you would imagine, it'll it'll go up and down on a quarterly basis. But the far majority of our 90 plus percent is non large deal services working toward our subscription revenue. So yes, it will go up and down, but we're not expecting it to get larger than 10% in the next couple of quarters. And utilization of the of the services team has been been really well. I mean, the best thing to point to there is the margin right I mean, we've seen over the last couple of quarters roughly up, you know, a 10% margin increase in the professional services team.

And a lot of that is just more billable, obviously, more billable work and less non-billable work at the as we work through through some of our prior implementation with efficiencies and just work through the backlog and the crucial thing to keep in mind, Matt, that this would have been a record services quarter for us as regardless even without the influence of that product development related revenue, it would have been a record quarter for us. And year-over-year, it's improved by 41%. So only a part of that can be attributed to this product development work that we are doing and the main indicator here, Matt, the crucial thing is it's an indicator that our new products are settling down well in the field and are becoming easier and faster to implement which is the biggest thing we take out of our services revenue quarter.

And then one last one quickly, if I could squeeze it in. As you look at the longer term, I guess, upside to margins potentially in the model here? And any anything limiting further upside as growth continues on the top line? And any major investments that you foresee having to make that could impede that? Or should we expect with appropriate top line growth a fair amount of leverage going forward?

Thanks. Yes, Matt, it's with continuing top line growth. You should expect improving leverage across practically all our operating expenses categories. You should expect improving operating leverage as we go along. But remember, from a quarter of the quarter, I would not apply those rules. But on a year over year basis, this fiscal year, next fiscal year and so on, you should expect profitability levels to continue improving as our revenue levels improve and especially on the R&D side of it, we have a fair amount of leverage.
I mean it is not active. R&d is going to go down, but it's going to be tempered the R&D increases are going to be tempered compared to the revenue growth. And also our gross margin is improving now as recurring revenue becomes a higher proportion of our total revenue and our services revenue becomes a higher proportion as well. You should expect overall our profitability to continue improving as our top line revenue increases.

Great.

Operator

(Operator Instructions) George Sutton, Craig-Hallum Capital.

You are Ramesh, you mentioned that you grew subscription revenues 29.9% I would like to give you a sell-side round up and say congratulations for your 30% growth. I wanted to make sure given that both Marriott and Hilton put out pretty positive indications about room growth today. So obviously, the industry is growing very healthy. But with Mary out specifically, as they're announcing these big room increase numbers, can you just walk through how we think of that relative to what that means for your ultimate contract?

Yes. I mean, I tried to convince some some of my management team members to buy a little bit more subscription from us to push toward the 30% mark, where it didn't happen to us. It ended up at 29.9. But yes, that trend continues to be good. Subscription revenue growth continues to be good, all jokes apart, it is going well and we are increased by the direction. Now that I did listen to that CNBC snippet today of the matter you'll see or commenting on the rooms growth and all that means charges is expanding opportunities.

All right. Nothing has changed as far as our Marietta BMS agreement goes on. We continue to work towards that. And both parties, both Marriott and us continue to very diligently monitor and manage the project, and it continues to progress well, but all the extra room announcements Hilton on the POS side, Marriott on the TMS side means more opportunities for us. That means if we execute well, if we do well with the opportunities we have today, there are more opportunities to be had.
We are in a good industry that is doing well, where there is a dearth of innovation, not much innovation going on so I think we are sitting on some very good opportunities. And now that the major project work is done, we can actually focus on customer acquisition and innovation and those kinds of activities. So I see that report as increasing Josh. And I see that report as more opportunities opening up for us possibilities to continue to do it.

So in your prepared comments, you mentioned that we think the pace of sales will only get better and you talked about it from a product perspective and why why you do think things will get better. Can you talk about it from sales efficiency slash productivity or just go to market totality? Give us a sense of why things will get better from that perspective?

Yes. So starting with sales efficiency, just some anecdotal data for you, our new reps, right? The recently joined new reps. Their productivity has tripled in the nine months this year compared to the nine months last year. So that's a good indication that as we continue to increase our sales staff and by the way we have in the hotels and resorts section and managed food service providers in that vertical. And in Asia, we have improved.
We have increased the number of sales staff and our experience with the new sales staff who have joined us over the last couple of years is that their productivity triple the sales are now they are currently contributing about 25% of overall sales this year so far. So the productivity does continue to improve because they get excited when they see the new products they typically come from within the industry. They have worked with our competitors before and their eyes just open up saying we have no idea that this kind of ecosystem of state of the art technology products out there so that we continue to do and we will continue to improve sales, the number of sales personnel and that productivity gains are continuing to increase.
And that's one reason why I think our sales will continue to improve our go-to-market marketing spend and all that is increasing. We took one step forward this year, and we will continue doing that as we go along because we are seeing good results. Our name is out there a lot more now and a lot more thought leadership contributions and a lot more participating in trade shows, especially in Asia and EMEA and other regions. So all that will continue to increase.
Now what is crucial, George, is we need more field successes in order to establish our credibility and more and more customers talking about the success stories about us. That's the next crucial step and that will be aided by adding more to sales and marketing.

Perfect. Thank you very much.

Operator

Nehal Chokshi, Nordland Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Good afternoon, and thank you for taking my question and congratulations on a solid set of results here. I remember at the beginning of your prepared remarks, I think you said fiscal year 24 year to date sales is progressing ahead of last year's pace. So just wondering so when you say, hey, you mean year-over-year of growth, is that correct? Correct me.

So just to expand on that answer a little bit may help. FY. 23 light, which is April 22 to March 23 was a record fiscal year sales for us and this fiscal year, which is April 23 to March 24 at the end of three quarters at the end of Q1, Q2, Q3 is ahead of last year space, it is okay.

So basically you're saying accelerating sales pace, which we are deficient ourselves, I call it bookings, but you're seeing that accelerate. Independence has got some are very quickly.

I'm sorry, independent of the mark, your deal cutting it's anyhow, just to reiterate that that deal is not counted in any of our sales numbers as yet that we will start counting in sales when the individual properties start signing up with us. So that's not in any of our sales or backlog numbers that we generally report to you sort of come back to your original point fiscal year 2024 when you compare Q1 to Q3 with fiscal year 2023, Q1 to Q3 this year is ahead. And by the way, fiscal year 2023 was our best fiscal years after that.

Great. Fantastic. And Dave, thoughts on free cash flow for fiscal year 24 now that were basically 10 or 12 months through fiscal year 24?

Yes. I mean, there's no change in expectations and free cash flow and that being free cash flow less on CapEx over and over over the year should be pretty close to adjusted EBITDA. Certainly a there's a little bit more headwinds with timing of billing this year. So most of the free cash flow, typically we get some pretty favorable working capital adjustments in Q3 and it wasn't the case this year, but no concern there.
It was just timing of billing. We build things earlier in the year and we expect to collect on those next quarter. So no, no change to free cash flow. I mean, over a period of time, free cash flow less CapEx has remained already adjusted EBITDA, less cash, less cash.
Yes. Yes, for the adjusted EBITDA, less CapEx will be free cash flow. Yes. So I just said that the guidances are around, I think, 36, EUR37 million. And that is trending around 9 million. And so talking about 27 million of free cash flow for fiscal year 24? Yes, that's right. And most of that will come just from working capital, specifically related to accounts receivable OpEx in coming quarters, fiscal year 21 fiscal year 22 fiscal year 23, $27 million of free cash flow each of those years, yet your adjusted EBITDA, it's going to have increased about 10 million over that three year period.
On it, though, in your working capital requirements are increasing essentially done while this year there was there was a lot more CapEx related to our office move. We've talked about our office moves. We moved offices and in our Chennai office, Alpharetta and Vegas. So it's kind of the there was just a lot more CapEx this year related to office moves than there had been in the past. And we and obviously, we'll be in these offices for a while. So the CapEx should start normalizing back down next year.

Yes, great. And then look at your cash balance continues to accrete really nicely. You're doing a small level of share repurchases. But I mean, it's nowhere close to that array of free cash flow generation and prudent to have a very prudent M&A that you did a nice acquisition three years ago.

Well, I mean, it's nowhere close to the three three years of free cash flow that you generated since those last three year share from why not go ahead and accelerate the rate buybacks here. So now we are comfortable with our cash balance now. And definitely it is not high enough to do anything significant real. And we have in all acquisition opportunities will come to us now and then, but we tend to be very conservative and very careful with what we look at. And organic growth is good for us. So we are not going to use inorganic growth as a crutch, but there are opportunities that now and then can come to us.

So we are comfortable with our current cash balance. But as of cash flow generation continues to accelerate. All our All options are open in front of us, and we will be prudent. We will do the right thing for shareholders. And at the moment, we are at the early stages of activating US cash generation at the current level of cash balance, we are comfortable with in case there is a rainy day or in case of a good tuck-in acquisition kind of thing comes our way we are well positioned to take advantage.

Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you, Nick, and they in queue. As I am showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Ramesh for closing remarks.

Thank you, Justin. And thank you for all your interest and support and best wishes to all of you for a very happy cheerful, healthy and successful 2020 for our next earnings call will be in about four months from now around the middle to end of May when we will be reporting Q4 and Full Fiscal Year 2024 results. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.