Q3 2024 Methode Electronics Inc Earnings Call

Participants

Robert Cherry; Vice President - Investor Relations; Methode Electronics Inc

Avinash Avula; President, Chief Executive Officer, Director; Methode Electronics Inc

Ronald Tsoumas; Chief Financial Officer; Methode Electronics Inc

Luke Junk; Analyst; Robert W. Baird & Co.

Gary Prestopino; Analyst; Barrington Research Associates, Inc.

John Franzreb; Analyst; Sidoti & Company, LLC

Presentation

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Methode Electronics Third Quarter Fiscal 2024 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Robert Cherry, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.

Robert Cherry

Thank you, operator, and good morning, and welcome to Methode Electronics Fiscal 2024 third quarter earnings conference call. For this call, we have prepared a presentation entitled Fiscal 2024 third quarter financial results which can be viewed on the webcast of this call or found at mitel.com on the Investors page.
This conference call contains certain forward-looking statements, which reflect management's expectations regarding future events and operating performance and speak only as of the date hereof. These forward-looking statements are subject to the Safe Harbor protection provided under the securities laws. Mezzanotte undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statement to conform the statements to actual results or changes in Methode's expectations on a quarterly basis or otherwise. Forward-looking statements in this conference call involve a number of risks and uncertainties and the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations are detailed in Methode's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, such as our 10-K and 10-Q reports.
At this time, I'd like to introduce and turn the call over to Mr. Ravi Buhler, President and Chief Executive Officer.

Avinash Avula

Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our fiscal 2024 third quarter earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Ron Zaleski, our Chief Financial Officer, both Ron and I have opening comments and then we will take your questions.
Before we discuss the quarter, I would like to share with you that I'm truly honored and humbled to be Metro's third CEO. and a 77 year history. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Don Duda for his outstanding contributions to methanol and for his support during my transition, and I wish him the very best in his retirement. A new chapter in the journey from Atwood has begun, and I'm excited and energized by the possibilities ahead.
I will provide a brief overview of the transition so far and also share some initial observations. First, while I've only been on the job for just over a month, I visited a number of our facilities, met with many of our employees visited with a major auto customer and had the opportunity to review the operating performance for all of Methode's business units. I have been impressed with the talent in our organization, the depth and breadth of engineering capability across the Company and our strong customer relationships.
Our Company foundation is strong with a rich legacy of innovation and an unwavering commitment to excellence. I look forward to building on that foundation and charting a course towards even greater success for the organization in the coming months.
I look forward to meeting with investors and analysts to share more about my background and views on the business.
Let's begin on Slide 5. Our sales for the quarter were $260 million, which were down $21 million year over year. The decline was entirely in our auto segment across all three of our reporting regions. The decrease was primarily due to program roll-offs and EV demand weakness, along with some continued softness in the e-bike market. Sales in the quarter were helped by the acquisition of Nordic life in the industrial segment. Lower sales, along with the continued operational inefficiencies in our North American auto operations drove the net loss in the quarter. These are essentially the same operational challenges that we experienced and communicated to you in the first and second quarters of this fiscal year. We also continue to see increased costs related to our numerous new program launches. Some of these costs are driven by a lack of absorption due to customer program delays. We are taking actions to mitigate these launch costs, which range from customer reimbursements, two internal cost reductions.
Moving to orders. We had a modest quarter with to over $20 million in annual program awards. These programs are spread across our user interface, lighting, power and sensor applications. I can share that the pipeline of potential awards remains healthy. However, I would note that the profile of the programs are weighted towards EV and consequently may be subject to reduction or delay due to customer decisions and our market conditions.
Turning back to EV activity, sales in the quarter were 19% of our consolidated total and year-to-date are at 20%. As previously communicated, we have a sizable EV lighting program in the process of rolling off well, we are also at the beginning of a wave of new EV power programs. Consequence of this timing gap will be a period of lower EV sales before the rebound as we transition programs. All of this is taking place with the backdrop of a softening near-term outlook in the EV market is clearly a long-term tailwind for Methode, but the part will certainly not be linear in the quarter. Our debt was flat sequentially from the second quarter that leveling off was aided by return to positive free cash flow. While we were challenged in the quarter with net income, we still maintain a sharp focus on cash generation. There is plenty of room for improvement on cash flow, but it was a step in the right direction.
Lastly, we continued our share buyback in the quarter. Acquiring $3 million in shares were out automated purchase program.
Turning to Slide 6. In summary, for the quarter, sales were under pressure from auto program roll-offs and market headwinds in the EVE. bike and data center markets. The lower sales volume and persistent operational inefficiencies in our auto segment drove a net loss. We returned to a positive free cash flow position, and we continued our share repurchase program going forward, we have carefully considered the situation with our operational challenges, the evolving market headwinds and my recent appointment to the CEO position. Consequently, we decided to suspend all guidance for the near future. We intend to focus on planning and executing on our path forward to restoring profitability and cash generation for the company. We will undertake an intensive review and take quick actions to reduce hard costs, including headcount and to dispose noncritical and non-revenue-generating assets. We will be laser focused on reducing working capital, particularly inventory and increasing free cash flow. We have an engaged and outside cost reduction consultant to review our business operations and have delayed all merger and acquisition activity. In addition, we will perform a rigorous review of key operating procedures and processes. Lastly, we will perform an expeditious but thorough review of the entire portfolio. We will then undertake share an update on our business review. And when we report fourth quarter earnings. I'm confident that the foundation of the business is strong and the potential for greater success is evident. The near-term path for the Company will be heavily focused on cost reduction and operational effectiveness, but we will then quickly pivot to strategic actions to take metal to the next stage in its journey.
At this point, I'll turn the call over to Ron, who will provide more detail on our third quarter financial results.

Ronald Tsoumas

Thank you, Abby, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to Slide 8. Third-quarter net sales were $259.5 million compared to $280.1 million in fiscal '23, a decrease of 7% this quarter. Sales included $21.2 million from the Nordic Life acquisition and $1.5 million from favorable currency translation. Excluding Nordic lights and foreign currency, net sales decreased by 15.5% in the quarter, saw the continuation of two key auto program, roll-offs, one in North America and one in Asia. We also had new weakness in EV demand and persistent softness in the e-bike and data center markets. The e-bike market continues to be in an overstock position. The data center market did show some signs of recovery for us. Third quarter loss from operations was $3 million down from $27.3 million of income in fiscal '23. Income was down to the lower sales volume and the ongoing operational inefficiencies, which were mainly in North American auto and drove inventory adjustments, scrap expenses and higher labor and freight costs. We also saw higher costs in Europe due to the shipping constraints in the Red Sea. The adjusted loss from operations excluded $100,000 of restructuring costs.
Please turn to Slide 9. Third quarter diluted earnings per share decreased to a negative $0.33 from a positive $0.54 from the same period last fiscal year. But EPS was negatively impacted by the lower operating income and higher net interest expense, lower tax expense compared to the prior fiscal year was a partial offset the adjusted EPS rounded to the same number for GAAP this quarter, we are laser focused on cost reductions and their related cash impacts.
Shifting to EBITDA, a non-GAAP financial measure. Third quarter EBITDA was $9.4 million versus $36.1 million in the same period last fiscal year. EBITDA was negatively impacted by lower sales volume, lower gross profit and higher selling and administrative expenses. The higher selling and administrative expenses was primarily due to the acquisition of Nordic lights, which accounted for $2.4 million of the increase, excluding Nordic Life's selling and administrative expense decreased $1.4 million, primarily due to lower stock-based compensation expense, partially offset by higher professional fees, incentive-based compensation and salary expense, the adjusted EBITDA excluded $100,000 of restructuring costs.
Please turn to Slide 10. While gross spend is up $24.5 million year to date, it was down $700,000 from the second quarter the year to date. The increase was mainly due to working capital investments and higher CapEx for to support sales and new program launches. We ended the quarter with $122.9 million in cash, down $34.1 million from the end of last fiscal year, but up $400,000 from the second quarter. Net debt, a non-GAAP financial measure increased by $58.6 million year to date to $208.4 million but was down $1.1 million from the second quarter. Overall, we saw stabilization in debt and cash levels in the quarter. After the end of the third quarter, we entered into an amendment to our credit agreement with our lenders. The amendment revised the debt to EBITDA leverage ratio covenant for the third quarter and our next three quarters. The amendment waived any default that may have occurred due to a noncompliance with the leverage ratio covenant for the third quarter. That was in effect prior to the amendment following the amendment we were in compliance with our leverage ratio covenants. For further information, please see our eight K and 10 Q, which were both filed today.
Please turn to Slide 11. Third quarter net cash from operating activities was $28.8 million as compared to $55.7 million in fiscal '23. The decrease of $26.9 million was primarily due to lower net income in the quarter.
Third quarter capital expenditure was $16.6 million as compared to $12.8 million in fiscal '23, an increase of $3.8 million. The increase was mainly a function of investments required to support new product launches and was keeping with our prior guidance.
Third, fourth quarter free cash flow, a non-GAAP financial measure was $12.2 million as compared to $42.9 million in fiscal '23, a decrease of $34.7 million. This decrease again was primarily due to reduced net income and increased CapEx. After having negative free cash flow in the first two quarters of the year, we returned to positive free cash flow in the third quarter. That concludes my comments and we can open it up for questions.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

Certainly at this time we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two, if you would like to remove your question from the queue For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please. While we poll for questions.
Your first question for today is from Luke Junk with Baird.

Luke Junk

Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. On first one, either for RV or Ron, just to start you were expecting modestly higher EPS sequentially in a month or so into the quarter. When you gave that guidance, that would seem to suggest trends decelerated pretty materially in December and January. I know you're not providing guidance right now, but just hoping you can speak to where the organization stands on a run-rate basis and thinking both in terms of top line headwinds, especially the EV moderation that you called out in the operational inefficiencies. To what extent things are similar sequentially or if there's any deterioration in the other segments? Thank you.

Avinash Avula

Look let me start with my view and then I can let Ron jump in as well as we've shared that the softness was coming from the auto market, mainly across our businesses worldwide, primarily because of some slowdowns in EV demand rate and our customers. And really that's where we are seeing some short-term softness as we go into it.

Ronald Tsoumas

Yes, look from where we were when we gave guidance to where we ended up, sales were definitely softer. And as Bobby mentioned, certainly in the EB and um, in some of the other data center space and things of that nature, Tom, we had some operational inefficiencies as well that contributed to the delta in pretax and we were encumbered with foreign exchange losses and some higher-than-expected professional fees.

Luke Junk

Got it. And then on second, just a bigger picture question for you of the with the organization in a challenging place right now, can you just help us understand your first 90 days on the job you're in the middle of you give some on a high-level perspective in your prepared comments. Just wanted to better understand how you're prioritizing your time right now, what, if any structures you've put in place already with your leadership team or anything else that would be worth mentioning?

Avinash Avula

I think you said, look, I've just been here a month, and that's taken some time because that's where we are. And while that's still yet to see all our sites, I've got a good sense of the current business and where we are, my priorities are to recover profitability, and I'll pop back before we can embark on a long-term strategic journey. And this is also why we have pulled guidance because I want to come back to you when we have an idea of all the actions we are taking that we can share more about the long term. My vision is to build a future for the company, and that's based on the foundation we have today and take it into the future.

Luke Junk

And then last question for me, just would be on the balance sheet run and maintaining compliance with the updated covenants that give you some breathing room. It looks like through the middle of fiscal '25 on just that be great to get some perspective on that.
And maybe even just the calculation of that ratio, it seems like you might be contemplating repatriating some cash. Is that right? Any other considerations things.

Ronald Tsoumas

Thanks, Luke. Yes, our third quarter results, it underperformed compared to guidance from sales and EPS and EBITDA perspective. And we then entered into negotiations with our lending group and we reached an agreement to go from 3.25 less the standard covenant. If we were in compliance in the third quarter, the first quarter of the fourth quarter goes to 4.5 on the first quarter and the second quarter of next fiscal years goes down to four in each of those quarters. And then as you correctly mentioned in our third quarter of next year, we would revert back to the 3.25 that was in the standard agreement when we amended the facility in October of 2022. As Bobby mentioned, we are taking multiple actions to reduce to increase our cash generation and EBITDA performance because both of those levers, as you correctly mentioned, look on repatriation and things of that nature. That is a lever that we can pull to take down the net debt, which is the other part of the equation.

Luke Junk

And again, and I'll leave it there for now. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is from Gary Prestopino with Barrington Research.

Gary Prestopino

Hey, good morning all. A hobby of welcome to the show payoff. Could you maybe tell us in your capacity. And I only have some of your experience with DuPont's electronic and industrial business. But in your professional experience, have you been faced with the situation like you're getting here at metal that you had to turn it around in a kind of a quick fashion to rightsize the organization and drive profitability over time.

Avinash Avula

Gary, nice to meet you. Thank you for that question.
I was known as CEO. before, but as I came into different businesses and DuPont's, I had an opportunity to restructure and reposition for growth businesses. That were declining in revenue that we then put it onto a significant growth trajectory, both organically and inorganically and a lot of learning from there that I can bring and learning from elsewhere to bring on future growth for the Company.

Gary Prestopino

Okay. So when you were at DuPont, you were kind of path we wanted to see you all, but you obviously running as a division, the electronics and industrial business. And this was an area that you kind of had somewhat of the same characteristics as Matteo does now when you were able to turnaround?

Avinash Avula

Yes, I would say that they're not exactly similar, but there's learnings from both to bring to the Company here where there are declining trends, where we put it on a turnaround trajectory. But we also look both on the bottom line on the top line to do better performance.

Gary Prestopino

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Once again, if you have any questions, please star one. Question is from John Franzreb, Sidoti & Company.

John Franzreb

Good morning and thanks for taking the questions everyone.
I'm sorry, I joined late, so I might have missed some of the guardrails here as far as the Q&A, but I'm curious about a couple of things. One on has the facility in Monterey performing, is that been corrected or is that still an ongoing issue and if it is, when will it be fixed?

Avinash Avula

John, our challenges continue to be in the motorized side where we are working aggressively to look at all operational effectiveness actions, including cost and productivity inventory as well as some of these issues, it may have been more challenging than we thought earlier. So it's taking us some time to review and get back. And I think that's our key focus as we go forward.

Ronald Tsoumas

Yes, we've experienced the inefficiencies and they continue and taking more time than we had previously thought on. But on the right, the right, I'm getting the right deal and remind me wrong. But the biggest issue is at this point is it labor, we mine and it's the issues that are connected are high labor turnover planning issues, inventory leading to inventory shortages, leading to expedited incoming freight, sometimes outgoing freight, some short shipment on short shipping premium freight inbound and spot purchases where our planning isn't fully vetted and sort of all of those things collectively and launching a significant amount of programs at the same time have led to the inefficiencies that we had we've been experiencing.

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session, and I will now turn the call over to Harvey for closing remarks.

Avinash Avula

I just wanted to bring to all for your participation for today.

Operator

Yes, thank you. This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.