Q4 2023 Concrete Pumping Holdings Inc Earnings Call

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Bruce Young; Chief Executive Officer, Director; Concrete Pumping Holdings Inc

Presentation

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss concrete financial results for the fourth quarter and fiscal year ended October 31, 2023. Joining us today are Concrete Pumping Holdings, CEO, Bruce Young; CFO, Ian Humphries; and the company's external Director of Investor Relations, Cody Slach.
Before we go further, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Slach to read the company's safe harbor statement within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1990 provides important cautions regarding forward-looking state. Cody, please go ahead.

Thanks, Camilla. I would like to remind everyone that in the course of this call, to give you a better understanding of our operations, we will be making certain forward-looking statements regarding our business and outlook.
These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. For information concerning these risks and uncertainties, see Concrete Pumping Holdings Annual Report on Form 10-K, quarterly report on Form 10-Q and other publicly available filings with the SEC. The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
On today's call, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA, net debt and free cash flow, which we believe provide useful information for investors.
We provide further information about these non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP measures in our press release issued today or the investor presentation posted on the company's website.
I'd like to remind everyone that this call will be available for replay later this evening and webcast replay will also be available via the link provided in today's press release as well as on the company's website. Additionally, we have posted an updated investor presentation to the company's site.
Now I'd like to turn the call over to the CEO of Concrete Pumping Holdings, Bruce Young. Bruce?

Bruce Young

Thank you, Cody, and good afternoon, everyone. We had another strong year in fiscal 2023, driven by the strength and diversification of our business. As a result, we were able to drive financial performance records for annual revenue, adjusted EBITDA and net income.
Looking at our full fiscal year of 2023, revenue increased 10% to $442 million. Adjusted EBITDA increased 7% to $125 million, and net income increased 12% to $30 million.
Each of our end markets contributes to this performance, particularly as residential construction remains strong and our expanded footprint enabled us to continue to win infrastructure projects. We also continue to execute on our debt reduction initiative, achieving our three times leverage ratio target at the end of the 2023 fiscal year.
Shifting to our fourth quarter performance by end market, our business performed in line with expectations in the infrastructure end market. Our expanded US national footprint continued to drive strong results as we captured more revenue for public project investments.
We continue to see more investment flow into numerous projects where we operate, and we plan to aggressively pursue these project opportunities with the belief that it has the potential to be a five year plus tailwind for our business.
During the fourth quarter, our residential end market remained stable due to the continued momentum in new residential housing construction, given not only the ongoing structural supply demand imbalance in housing, but the fact that homebuilders have enticed a new homebuyer with creative home design and financing options.
With interest rates falling subsequent to quarter end and the projection of additional interest rate cuts in 2024. We expect residential housing projects to remain healthy for our business in the commercial end market. We continue to experience momentum in larger commercial projects like distribution centers, warehouses, semiconductor fabrication plants and electric vehicles and battery manufacturing plants.
We expect this demand to continue given US reshoring trends as companies look to build out their domestic manufacturing footprint. However, concrete pumping demand from light commercial projects has continued to be comparatively weaker as interest rate sensitivity and reduced availability of financing from smaller regional banks has stalled some projects.
We expect that interest rate cuts in 2024 could help get these projects moving again during the quarter, our commercial mix as a percentage of our total revenue declined 100 basis points year over year to 59%. This was fully absorbed by our infrastructure projects, while residential was flat year over year at 29%. This once again highlights the diversity of our business and the agility of our fleet.
Shifting to the cost side of our business. Persistent inflationary pressures, particularly in labor, continue to hamper our ability to flow through our strong revenue performance to the bottom line margin. We estimate labor inflation accounted for roughly half of the inflationary headwinds we experienced in our P & L.
While we expect these headwinds to continue into the new year, and we are confident the measures we are taking to recalibrate rates and the systems we are implementing to attract and retain our employees are the right steps for our business to drive long-term shareholder value.
I will now let Ian walk through more details of our financial results before I return to provide some concluding remarks. Ian?

Thanks, Bruce, and good afternoon, everybody. In the fourth quarter, revenue increased 5% to $120.2 million compared to $114.9 million in the same year-ago quarter. The increase is mainly attributable to growth across each of our segments as a result of organic growth from higher volumes in certain regions and improved pricing.
Revenue in our US Concrete Pumping segment, mostly operating under the Brundage point brand increased 1% to $85 million compared to $84.3 million in the prior year quarter. For our UK operations, operating largely under the count for brand revenue improved 17% to $17.4 million compared to $14.9 million in the same year-ago quarter.
When excluding the foreign exchange translation effects from the British pound revenue for our UK operations increased approximately 10% in the fourth quarter due primarily to pricing improvements. Revenue in our US Concrete Waste Management Services segment, operating under the Eco-Pan brand increased 15% to $18 million compared to $15.6 million in the prior year quarter. The strong organic increase in revenue was driven by increases in volume and sustained improvement in pricing.
Returning to our consolidated results, gross margin in the fourth quarter was 40.7% compared to 42.3% in the same year-ago quarter with the decrease margin mostly being related to the impact of labor inflation.
General and administrative expenses in the fourth quarter were roughly flat at $29.6 million compared to $30.3 million in the same year-ago quarter. As a percentage of revenue, G&A costs improved in the fourth quarter to 24.6% compared to 26.4% in the same year-ago quarter.
For the full year 2023, when excluding the noncash G&A expenses for amortization and stock-based compensation, G&A costs as a percentage of revenue were approximately 21%, which is consistent with the prior year.
Net income available to common shareholders in the fourth quarter increased 11% to $9 million, or $0.16 per diluted share, compared to $8.1 million or $0.14 per diluted share in the same year-ago quarter. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter increased marginally to $35.8 million compared to $35.6 million in the same year-ago quarter.
Adjusted EBITDA margin was 29.8% compared to 31% in the same year-ago quarter. And as discussed previously, the slight erosion in margin was driven by persistent cost inflation, particularly in the cost of labor.
In our U.S. Concrete Pumping business, adjusted EBITDA decreased 7% to $21.2 million compared to $22.7 million in the same year-ago quarter. In our UK business, adjusted EBITDA increased 9% to [GBP5.1 million] compared to [GBP4.7 million] in the same year-ago quarter.
For our U.S. Concrete Waste Management business, adjusted EBITDA increased 16% to $8.8 million compared to $7.6 million in the same year-ago quarter.
Turning now to free cash flow and liquidity. For the full year of 2023, we delivered 23% growth in free cash flow to approximately $69 million, which is compared to $56 million in the prior year. This is after investing approximately $29 million in replacement equipment and dispersing almost $27 million in cash interest.
At October 31, 2023, we had total debt outstanding of $394 million, our net debt of $378 million, a degree a decrease of $42 million over the course of the year which is a testament to our strong free cash flow generation. This equates to a net debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of three times, which was our guided target for the 2023 year end.
We had approximately $217 million of liquidity as of October 31, 2023, which includes cash on the balance sheet and availability from our ABL facility. As a reminder, we have no near-term debt maturities with our senior notes maturing in 2026 and our asset-based lending facility maturing in 2028.
We remain in a strong liquidity position, which provides further optionality to responsibly pursue value added investment opportunities like accretive M&A or the inorganic investment in our fleet of equipment to support our overall long-term growth strategy.
During the third quarter of 2022, we entered into a share repurchase program that authorized the buyback of up to $10 million of our outstanding shares of common stock. In January 2023, the Board of Directors approved an additional $10 million increase.
During the fourth quarter of 2023 under our share repurchase program, we repurchased approximately 34,000 shares of our common stock for a total of approximately $240,000 at an average price of $7.8 per share.
During fiscal year 2023 and 2022, under our share repurchase program, we repurchased approximately 1.7 million shares of our common stock for a total of $11.6 million for an average price of $6.57 per share. The current share buyback program is authorized by the Board of Directors through March 2025, and we believe this stems demonstrates both our commitment to delivering value to our shareholders and our confidence in our strategic growth plan.
Moving now into our 2024 full year guidance. We expect fiscal year revenue to range between $465 million and $490 million, adjusted EBITDA to range between $127 million and $137 million. And free cash flow, which we define as adjusted EBITDA, less natural placement CapEx and less cash paid for interest to be at least $75 million.
For fiscal year 2024, we expect to be impacted by continued inflationary cost pressures, primarily labor and insurance costs and expect to offset these costs from the continued rate recalibration and cost efficiency initiatives. Operationally and financially, we continue to have a solid foundation and we have confidence in continuing to execute on our growth strategy.
With that, I will now turn the call back over to Bruce.

Bruce Young

Thanks, Ian. In summary, we are incredibly pleased with a record year of revenue and EBITDA accompanied by expansion in every segment. We anticipate ongoing growth in our residential and infrastructure end markets, particularly driven by infrastructure projects and a resilient backlog of residential work.
On the cost side of the equation, we are focused on attracting and retaining the best talent in the industry while reducing the impact from inflationary cost pressures through rate increases. As always, our focus remains on up and optimizing end market mix to continue to deliver strong top and bottom line growth.
Looking ahead, we believe our end market diversity and mission critical service in the construction industry positions us well for continued growth. We expect to complement organic growth by continuing to evaluate opportunistic accretive M&A while strategically reducing our leverage.
With that, I would now like to turn the call back over to the operator for Q&A. Camilla?

Question and Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions)
Brent Thielman, D.A. Davidson.

Great. Thanks. Good afternoon. I guess Bruce or Ian. First question, just the labor inflation outlook still looks like it's presented some compression in the margin on US pumping? And is the proportion of lower-margin revenue in that segment, I guess still shrinking as new business or better reflects today's labor cost environment? Are we still sort of two or three quarters away from seeing some sort of an inflection in margins in that business group? Just be helpful to get your thoughts there.

Yes, Brian, good question. And yes, I mean, in short, it is shrinking. And so a couple of points on that. And this is obviously part of we mentioned cost initiatives in our prepared remarks. So the labor and portion of that is certainly a big feature.
I mean, as Bruce mentioned, down about half of the inflation we've seen this year has been around labor. So it's certainly one of our key focuses. So the margin impact is certainly shrinking, but still some work to do and those are a big part of the cost initiatives going forward.

Bruce Young

Yes, Brent, I think what I would add to that is it is shrinking now and it will continue to get better as we as the year plays out.

Okay. That's great. And I mean, the outlook for revenue for 2024. I mean, that does call for reasonably healthy growth. I mean, just in light of kind of the moving pieces of the market and I guess off of the fact that you did see some moderation in U.S. pumping growth this quarter and maybe relative to what you've seen in terms of growth rates there.
So I guess, Bruce, can you just sort of bridge what you anticipate for this new fiscal year that the confidence that you see some reacceleration in growth in U.S. Pumping.

Bruce Young

And as you know, because we operate under so many different geographies that will be different in different markets. But what we're seeing is and what we're working very hard on is getting rates up in markets where we can, where and maybe it's different end markets, different customers, different sizes of equipment to things that we've been able to analyze that we need to do a little bit better on we think will drive that.
And we also see some opportunities and some fairly large projects that we're on to now that will be impactful to our revenues growing over the next year, but it's always the same. It's just holding our share gaining share kind of winning the battles in the trenches.

And Bruce, are those large projects, one that in fact that we've been awarded or you've got a high level of confidence, you're going to be attached to that?

Bruce Young

Yes, some of them, we're currently on some that we expect to be awarded to us and others that we'll be bidding shortly.

Okay. Ian just my last question. I mean, nice work into the 3x this year. I guess any further thoughts on where you want to be in 2024 with the balance sheet leverage?

Yeah. I mean, obviously, I mean, the starting point, as you know, Brian, for us is the free cash flow number. And so again, we're coming out with what we think is a quite strong indication of free cash flow and consistent with the things we're always looking for the year and the best opportunity to create more shareholder value. So we'll continue to allocate.
And from a from a capital allocation perspective, that free cash flow into the growth of the business in the years that have the most value. And a lot of it, obviously, nickel powders, organic. And but we also have the inorganic and M&A opportunities if the values are right. So there's a there's a number of options we think from a free cash flow number and two, keep on doing the things that we have been doing.

Got it. Okay. I'll pass it on. Thank you.

Bruce Young

Thanks, Brent.

Operator

Thank you. Andy Wittmann, Baird.

Great and good afternoon, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. I guess I just wanted to start with some question on the revenue outlook here for '24. I guess. So the implied growth rate there is about 5% to 11%.
I just wanted to kind of understand what's in the low and the high end of the range fair to think of the low end being, basically all price and flattish volumes and then volumes positive to get to the high end, Ian? Is that is that one way of thinking about is that the correct way to think about it? How are you thinking about it?

Yes, I think that's fair, Andy. And I think you're right on. I mean, obviously, we're doing continued recalibration as we mentioned. But you're right on the low end, there is an assumption of like flatter volume M. And as we get to that midpoint.
I mean, as you know, the split between volume and pricing is can be somewhat equal. So if we talk just around the midpoint, it's down, let's say, 3% or 5% on the volume, 3% or 5% on the price. And obviously that will flex based on the volume piece. So I think you're thinking about it.

Right. Okay. That makes sense. And then I guess just on the on the implicit EBITDA margins in the '24 guidance, I wanted to dig into that. You mean they're basically implied down a couple of hundred basis points, and I heard the commentary on labor.
I heard you guys say that you're expecting that challenge to continue here into 2024. But I was just wondering, is there more to it that we should be thinking about is there is the competition competing differently as the growth opportunities, broadly speaking, are maybe not as robust and it's not a factor that goes into the margins. Or maybe, Bruce, what are the other considerations we should be thinking about that's implicit in that margin rate for '24?

Bruce Young

Yes, I think the biggest thing is the competitive environment that we're in. We've talked about this on our last call where there's not a lot of discipline. We're competing against family offices for the most part that I don't have the confidence in themselves to get rates up ahead of inflation.
And so and we know and because we've always had to do this as the largest players kind of drive that and get out in front of that. And so far, we're finding creative ways to get out in front of that. But there is some concern about how that will play out through the year.

Got it. Okay. That's helpful perspective. And then I guess maybe my last question here is on just on the commercial side. I'm just wondering if you wanted to give some commentary about what you're seeing there?
Obviously, what has been the toughest part that's not new, but are there green shoots to be seen here? Or are you seeing are delays at all on some of the projects that you're kind of eyeing paying down or even cancellations?
Certainly, the peak rates in case that you made in your prepared remarks, seems like it's directionally positive. I'm just wondering what you're seeing on the ground in terms of and the movement of these commercial, including the light commercial jobs us through the bid to build process?

Bruce Young

Yes. So things haven't changed a lot from the last quarter. The larger projects are going. There's still some concern about the light commercial that activity. We don't see it doesn't create a backlog like what we get on the larger projects where we know about them six, eight months a year in advance, the lighter commercial ones. Sometimes it's just two or three months. So we don't have as much visibility, but we do believe as interest rates that lighten up and demand becomes greater, that we'll see that increase.

Okay. Thank you for the context. I appreciate it. Have a good evening.

Thanks, Andy.

Bruce Young

Thanks, Andy.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Luke McFadden, William Blair.

Hey, Bruce and Ian, thanks so much for taking our questions tonight. Maybe just one here. I know you kind of mentioned just in terms of on the on the commercial side as the ABI index, it's kind of been in negative territory for a while now.
And I think the hope is that we start to see that improve somewhat as we move through 2024. But just curious, kind of how you guys think about your nonresidential construction business. And I think the hope is that it improves, but maybe that's from your perspective, more front-end weighted versus back-end weighted? Just anything there would be helpful. Thanks so much.

Bruce Young

Yeah. Thanks, Luke. I think the ABI. is where our concern with light commercial. Is that where it was doing quite well until a few months ago or at least to even and now is it's gone back up. We do have some concerns that that will affect light commercial, the larger projects they seem to be going, but we expect that that will improve over the next few months. And then we'll see light commercial pickup in the second half of the year.

Great. And just one more on our end here. The residential was again, a bright spot in the quarter and in November, we saw new single-family homes jump up again.
Can you discuss any of the nuances around what you saw in the residential market during the fourth quarter and in particular, any geographies that were particularly strong. I know the mountain region was strong for you last quarter, but anything specific there?

Bruce Young

Yes, it's the same story that the homebuilders have done a really good job of Making Homes Affordable and the supply demand has been in our favor for that. And we see that picking up into this year. And we expect residential could be even much better as the year plays out as interest rates come back down.

Great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. Stanley Elliott, Stifel.

Hey, guys, this is Andrew on for Stanley. Thank you for taking my question. I was wondering if you could talk about M&A a little bit more seems like the appetite is certainly there given that balance sheet. But what does the landscape look like as we enter the new year? And where are the opportunities?

Bruce Young

Yeah. So we're very interested in doing good M&A deals. And the challenge that we've seen with that with the inflation, many of the small competitors haven't done a very good job of getting the rates up with inflation.
So their cash flow margins are down substantially and the value of their assets are either holding strong, are going up in value with the increased cost of new assets and so it's been difficult for us to buy them at the right values.
We think that will start shifting during the year, but will we always have an appetite for that with it create a balance sheet that puts us in a good position for that. And we'll just be thoughtful about doing the right deals.

And then related to the UK pumping segment. How do you think about growth into this year? And do you have any concerns about the delays or cancellations in the high-speed rail project over there?

Bruce Young

It's not at this time, we feel really good about our workload for the UK going into 2024 and the HS2 project that we're currently on and are the portions that were on there they're locked in. And so we expect that to continue strong throughout this year.
And we're finding a lot of other infrastructure dollars are being spent in the UK as well. And other types of projects that are helping that growth now in the commercial markets in the UK are a little flattish, very similar to the US, but the growth potential on the infrastructure work is really the great opportunity we have in UK for '24.

Thank you.

Bruce Young

Thanks, Andrew.
Thank you. (Operator Instructions) Steven Fisher, UBS.

Thanks. Good afternoon. I apologize, I missed the first part of the call, so I'm not sure if you covered this or not, but in terms of the drivers of the commercial softness, it sounds like how much of that is financing availability and perhaps actual level creating a challenge versus any other factors?
I think last quarter, you said it was a little bit more challenging for some of like smaller warehouses and things to get financing. So how much is that still a factor? Has that intensified is that weekend? So maybe talk about that a little bit, please.

Bruce Young

It seems like it stayed fairly close to the same quarter over quarter for us. So we watch that fairly closely. And we do anticipate as rates come down, that should get easier for those projects to get funded. And we expect to see some positive impact from that in the second half of the year.

Okay. And then I guess just in terms of seasonality in the near term, obviously, we're well through your first quarter. So anything to call out about what's been happening over the last couple of months. Curious how these rate increases that you're trying to put through, how those have been received? And just anything for modeling purposes, we should be aware of in terms of near term seasonality?

Yes, Steve, good question. I mean, typically, the seasonality is going to be quite consistent as we go through [q1, 3, 4]. For what we expect actually is maybe a slightly stronger second half than the first half with the with the expected change in rates. We'll similarly see some of those light commercial projects come online. So where we're usually, as you know, so [45, 55,] we think it might be [54, 56] for the stronger back half of the year. Just with the impact.

Okay. And how the rate increase has been accepted by the marketplace?

Bruce Young

Yeah. As you know, rate increases are always challenging, especially in a market that we're dealing in today, we're having good success. I we do believe we provide a great service or a great teammate to our customers. And it's really on us in our sales team to go out and prove out that value.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, this concludes your question and answers. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Young for closing remark.

Bruce Young

Thank you, Camilla. We'd like to thank everyone for listening to today's call, and we look forward to speaking with you when we report our first quarter fiscal 2024 results in March. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for you.

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