Q4 2023 Haverty Furniture Companies Inc Earnings Call

Participants

Richard B. Hare; Executive VP & CFO; Haverty Furniture Companies, Inc.

Clarence H. Smith; Analyst; Haverty Furniture Companies, Inc.

Steven G. Burdette; President; Haverty Furniture Companies, Inc.

Anthony Chester Lebiedzinski; Analyst; Sidoti & Company, LLC

Michael Frederick Legg; Analyst; The Benchmark Company, LLC

Cristina Fernández; Analyst; Telsey Advisory Group LLC

Presentation

Operator

Greetings and welcome to Haverty's Fourth Quarter 2023 earnings call. (Operator instructions)
As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Richard Hare, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Richard B. Hare

Thank you, operator. During this conference call we'll make forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those made or implied in such statements, which speak only as of the date they are made and which we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise the factors that could cause actual results to differ include economic and competitive conditions and other uncertainties detailed in the Company's reports filed with the SEC.
Our Chairman and CEO, Clarence Smith will now give you an update on our results and our President, Steven Burdette will provide additional commentary about our business.

Clarence H. Smith

Good morning, and thank you for joining our 2023 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Conference Call. Our fourth quarter sales were $210.7 million, down 24.9% total written sales were down 13.1% and Britten comp store sales declined 14.3% for the quarter.
Total sales for the year were $862 million to $132 million, down 17.7% from 2022. Our current sales performance returned to the pre-COVID sales trends we experienced in 2019 and 2018. In the fourth quarter, our teams did a solid job on expense control, higher gross margins, and excellent inventory management
improvement in average ticket powder designer sales and maintaining high quality service helped produce pretax margins of 8.7% and $18.5 million. For the full year, we produced $72.7 million pretax earnings versus $119.5 million in 2022,
following record sales and profit years post COVID, the furniture industry was first hit by consumer spending on travel and entertainment and by most recently, the higher mortgage and interest rates, which significantly impacted housing sales for Havertys home sales in the south have historically been highly correlated to our furniture sales.
Currently home sales have been at historic lows and have clearly impacted our customers' interest in buying furniture. These trends are reflected in our recent performances. We're encouraged that we believe that home sales seemed to bottom out after dramatic declines. It is evident now we've experienced a two year pull forward of furniture and accessories sales due to COVID and now have an experience of two for two year falloff in sales.
Our teams have done a fine job in reducing our costs in reaction to a weakening sales trends and adjusting across all areas of our business and our headcount compared to 2019, pre-COVID is down from approximately 3,500 to 2,500 team members making similar sales volume. We're continuing to evaluate all areas of our business for opportunities to consolidate and add productivity. We focused on serving our customers better with improved in-store and online technology, strengthening of our design service, adding customization and special-order products, and upgrading our product lines. All these areas will continue to separate us from the more promotional players in our markets.
The acquisition of four former Bed Bath & Beyond locations are on track for converting to Heritage stores in the first half of 2024. All these stores are in new adjacent markets to current favoring stores and we're leveraging existing management. We're currently training staff in nearby stores to prepare for the spring early summer openings. We're very pleased with the three important Florida stores and one store outside of Memphis in Southaven, Mississippi.
We're in due diligence on several additional opportunities, including other former Bed Bath & Beyond locations and regions and expect to meet our goal of five new stores per year in 2024 and 2025. Our plans are to add stores on adjacent and existing markets within our dystrophy distribution footprint. This could expand to several states from our soon to be 17 state.
We have several sites and locations we're evaluating and expect to see additional store opportunities soon. Some retailers struggling with slotting sales and refinancing debt. However, this financial strength with zero funded debt and over $100 million of cash allows us to continue to invest in new stores and upgrading stores and systems to better serve our customers. We continue to focus on helping our customers' vision of their home come to life. We have a long history of gaining market share and building on our strengths in difficult times. We believe that we're especially well positioned to grow our business in many of the fastest growing markets in the country in the near term and into the future.

Steven G. Burdette

Thank you, Clarence, and good morning.
Our fourth quarter and 2023 yearly results were certainly below our expectations, but we are proud of our team members for providing what turned out to be our third best year for the Company in sales and operating profits. Store traffic continues to be a struggle in all markets as we battle the headwinds of high interest rates along with the worst housing market in 30 years. However, we continue to see our design business and product assortment driving our overall average ticket as it increased low single digits for the quarter and year. Also, our closing rates remained strong but were down low single digits for Q4 and the year. Our supply chain network has not felt any impact yet that would affect our business from the geopolitical issues.
In the Middle East, we have seen some extended lead times due to the shipping lines being adjusted due to the inability to use the Suez Canal, but the impact on our customers and inventories to minimize our inventories are in excellent condition and were down at year end by approximately 20% with backlogs remaining consistent.
Our special order business continues to remain strong, with an increase of over 31% in Q4 and over 40% for the year. Our design business continues to be a big driver of our business as it continued to grow to over 31% of our total business in the quarter and approximately 29% of our business for the year design, our average ticket continues to grow at high single digits, and we are encouraged that we've been able to grow the number of customers that are engaging with our designers by 15% in Q4 and by 8% for the year.
There's still tremendous opportunity for us in our design business as we see the opportunity to grow double digits by increasing the percentage of engaged customers and their average ticket. We have enhanced our marketing campaign. We furnish happiness to include weather regret free experience. This messaging circles around four pillars that we feel are key to our customers' happiness and experience choices, quality, design, and service. We have built our Company success over the last 138 years by instilling a culture of not selling and customer onetime, fulfilling a customer for a lifetime. We believe in our products, our team members, our systems, and our execution. At the same time, we are continuing to right size our staffing to match our current business conditions through attrition in all areas of the business.
Extend financing continues to play an important part in our holiday events each quarter as we manage these costs. However, we are experimenting with a different mix of credit offerings that still provide our customers with the needed financing, but at a reduced cost per head. While we have many headwinds in front of us, we have a lot of positives to help us remain opportunistic about Haverty's future. Our margins are strong. Our closing percentages are holding steady. We like our overall geographic location in the Southeast and are growing our footprint five stores a year. Our design business is picking up steam. Average ticket is growing expenses are being adjusted to the current business conditions, a strong balance sheet with no debt and an experienced team.
I will now turn the call over to Richard.

Richard B. Hare

Thank you, Steve. In the fourth quarter of 2023, we reported net sales of $210.7 million, a 24.9% decrease over the prior year quarter. Comparable store sales were down 25.5% over the prior year period. Our gross profit margin increased 540 basis points to 62.4% from 57% due to reductions in freight, a positive Lifeboat inventory adjustment and pricing discipline.
Sg&a expenses decreased $13.8 million or 10.7% to $114.7 million. As a percentage of sales, these costs approximated 54.4% of sales, up from 45.85 in the prior year. Quarter, we experienced decreased selling costs, advertising, distribution, and transportation expenses during the quarter.
Other income expense in the fourth quarter of 2024 was negligible and interest income was approximately $1.8 million during the fourth quarter as we earn more on our cash deposits due to higher interest rates.
Income before income taxes decreased $14 million to $18.5 million.
Our tax expense was $3.5 million during the fourth quarter of 2023, which resulted in an annual effective tax rate of 22.5%. The primary difference in the effective rate in the statutory rate is due to state income taxes and the additional tax benefit from the impact of the vesting of stock awards during the year.
Net income for the fourth quarter of 2023 was $15 million or $0.9 per diluted share on a common stock compared to net income of $23.7 million or $1.42 per share in the comparable quarter last year.
Now turning to our balance sheet. At the end of the fourth quarter, our inventories were $93.9 million, which was down $24.4 million from December 31, 2022, and down $8.4 million versus Q3 2023. At the end of the fourth quarter, our customer deposits were $35.8 million, which was down $12.1 million from December 31, 2022, and down $10.5 million versus the Q3 2023 balance. We ended the quarter with $120.6 million of cash and cash equivalents, and we have no funded debt on our balance sheet at the end of the year.
Looking at some of our uses of cash flow, capital expenditures were $53.1 million for the calendar year of 2023. As a reminder, we repurchased our Florida distribution facility in the second quarter for $28.2 million in addition, during 2023, we paid $19.1 million in quarterly dividends and $16.1 million in special dividends. During the fourth quarter, we purchased 122,850 shares of common stock under our existing stock buyback program for $3.7 million.
We have approximately $13.1 million of existing auto authorization in our buyback program. Our earnings release lists out several additional forward-looking statements, including our future expectations on certain financial metrics. I'll highlight a few, but please refer to our press release for additional commentary, we expect our gross margins for 2024 to be between 59.5% and 60%.
We anticipate gross profit margins will be impacted by our current estimates of product and freight costs and changes in our life reserve. Our fixed and discretionary type SG&A expenses for 2024 are expected to be in the $295 million to $297 million range.
The variable type costs within SG&A for 2024 are expected to be in the range of 19.9% to 20.2% with the increases over 2023, primarily being inflation driven.
Our planned CapEx for 2024 is $32 million, anticipated new or replacement stores, remodels and expansions account for $27 million. Investments in our distribution network are expected to be $2.5 million, and investments in our information technology are expected to be approximately $2.5 million. Our inTEST anticipated effective tax rate for 2024 is expected to be 26.5%. This projection excludes the impact from vesting of stock awards and any potential new tax legislation.
This completes my commentary on the fourth quarter financial results. Operator, we would like to open up the call for questions at this time.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. (Operator instructions)
Anthony Lebiedzinski, Sidoti. Please proceed.

Anthony Chester Lebiedzinski

Good morning, gentlemen, and thank you for taking the questions this morning. So first, can you talk please about the cadence of your written sales as the quarter progressed? And just wondering if you saw any notable changes in terms of different geographies or different regions.

Richard B. Hare

Currently, no significant changes in geography or regions. But in October, our orders or our written business was down almost 21%. Then in November, it was down slightly over 9% and then in December it was down around 11% to 12%. So for the quarter, around 13.1%, deliveries were pretty consistent. They were down in the mid-20s basically each month, each month of the quarter, just so yes.

Anthony Chester Lebiedzinski

Thanks for that color, Richard than So just wondering as far as the big change between October and the rest of the quarter? Or was this just the it's just more and more people buying stuff around the holidays or like anything you can share as far as what drove the 21% decrease in October then than you were, I guess less bad and the rest of the quarter?

Richard B. Hare

I don't think the I think it really kind of came back to normal is what I would say, Okay. 1% was a pretty strong decline. I think it just levelled off, frankly, is what I would suggest now.

Clarence H. Smith

So we're seeing the business Anthony around the holiday best, certainly after Thanksgiving Veterans Day, certainly we'll more, you know, driving the factor in driving the numbers and then heading into the holidays of December. And some of the comparable each month could have been different from year over year.

Anthony Chester Lebiedzinski

Understood. Okay. And one of your peers said yesterday during its conference call that they were hurt by severe weather in January, though they said their President's Day sales were somewhat better on. Can you share with us anything like directionally as far as how the current year has started for you?

Richard B. Hare

Yes, we don't like to give input on the current quarter, but I will say clearly the weather was a factor. I mean it hit us just like it hit any of the anybody that was trying to operate. We had we had bad weather, particularly in the in the mid-South area, but it did affect us. We're not giving any numbers out yet on this quarter.

Anthony Chester Lebiedzinski

Understood. Okay. All right, but just wondering if you also saw that impact as well. Got you. Okay.
And then, Steve, you talked about rightsizing of staffing. Can you share with us as far as like what your employee count was, whether we are at the end of the year or like where it is now and how does that compare to the prior year? Obviously, above four years ago when you had the COVID pandemic initially hit, you guys did a big but to your employee base that you rehire some people. So can you just share some perspective as to how you're structurally different than where you are now versus pre pandemic levels?
As far as the employee count?

Steven G. Burdette

Yes, we're down. If you go back to pre-pandemic, Anthony were down about 1,000 associates and then from last year were down about 250 is a number, and we're continuing to make sure we right-size it to the to the business where we are.

Anthony Chester Lebiedzinski

Got you. Okay. And then lastly for me before I pass it onto others. So Steve, you also mentioned that you're experimenting, I guess, with some new alternative financing programs. Can you expand on that? Give us some additional color?

Steven G. Burdette

Yes, we've we made a decision and we started utilizing 48 months more than 60 months. And we also adjusted some of our minimum purchases and down-payment percentages to what we're doing there. So we've got to manage that cost and so far and we did that some in the fourth quarter, we have not seen an impact to the business by making that move and it's more cost effective for Havertys.

Anthony Chester Lebiedzinski

Understood. Well, thank you very much and best of luck.

Richard B. Hare

Thanks, Andrew.

Operator

Michael Legg, Benchmark Company. Please proceed.

Michael Frederick Legg

Thanks, good morning. Wanted to follow up a little bit on the financing question. What percent of your sales were financed and then of the consumers who tried to finance, what did you see from the approval rate versus historic trends?

Steven G. Burdette

We haven't really seen micro changes, Steve, and Andy. The approval rates is where it is and our business has continued to remain around a third of our businesses on credit. So we haven't seen a change there.

Michael Frederick Legg

Okay. And then promotion in the industry, can you talk what you're seeing from competitors in your area?

Steven G. Burdette

Yes, I think you're seeing certainly there are some that are getting more aggressive in chasing the price and offering those values. But we're focused on value that we're offering our customers a quality product. So we're not chasing the price, Michael, what that happens and we don't want to panic and move that way. We work too hard to get our margins where they are. You know, Richard gave the guidance out there of 59.5 to 60. We still feel very comfortable that that will allow us some to be able to make sure that we have the same cadence of promotions out there for the consumer and then have the same values for our customers. So but we've definitely seen it on the lower end, more aggressive with it. But I'd say the use of it has been about the same as far as the advertisement over there. Their visibility is about saying there's been no change.

Michael Frederick Legg

Okay. And then we have the store growth that we've got with the Bed Bath & Beyond leases that you took over previously, we had mentioned that you have been looking at some out of the auction on your own. What's your viewpoint now with still going after new stores that you don't have already?

Steven G. Burdette

Well, we're certainly we would plan on growing five stores and we've got those border aligned right now. We're going to we've got one store that will close at the end of first quarter. There's been announced and we feel comfortable we'll be at the five stores this year and five stores next year. There's opportunities out there. We've got a lot going on, but we can't discuss it right now, Michael, because we don't have anything firm. So we're still in that negotiation process.

Michael Frederick Legg

Okay, great. Thanks. And one more question just on this design initiative, I know we have roughly one designer for store. There's been talk, I believe, about possibly increasing that despite the headcount reduction of some planned. What's going on the designers staffing?

Steven G. Burdette

Yes, we will increase that we've got about 15 or so stores that have to designers. And we're right now going to hold tight on that where it is right now and how we look forward, whether those are in our better stores where we needed the two designers and we just kind of monitor it with the business, what we're doing, Michael, make sure we stay focused on that control the costs with the decrease in traffic that one designers can deal with and handle what we've got going. S
o we don't feel the need as much to press it across the board, but that's still going to be a direction as we go forward when we start to add back sales consultants and or designers will make a choice there, and we'll probably lean more toward designers and sales themselves.

Michael Frederick Legg

And then just as your sales have pulled back after COVID, are any of these sales commissions and the salespeople are they still making the money they need to be happily employed or their compensation? Is it down? How does that work?

Steven G. Burdette

Well, I can tell you for 2023, I mean they were down about 10% compensation. But overall, we've adjusted those numbers down relative to the traffic, Michael. So we've tried to maintain that. So they still our average salesperson is still made in 23 over $85,000, and that was well up from where we were pre-pandemic when we were in the mid-50s.
And so take rates, we still feel comfortable that there's a certain minimum that we can go to, Michael. We've got to have a certain amount of sales consultants to serve the business. So we won't go below that level. But we are certainly adjusting based on the traffic to ensure that we have a better experience for the customer. We think we get increased close rates because we're serving them better. And so that's just filling it works better and it's better for our sales consultants at home.

Michael Frederick Legg

And then just one more on outdoor, is that still slated to start launching in select stores.

Richard B. Hare

It's just started. We're bringing in now I saw somebody in the stores a couple of weeks ago. It's just begun. We don't have it all out there yet. So I don't have a track record. I think initially the response has been good.

Michael Frederick Legg

Thanks, guys. I agree.

Operator

Cristina Fernández, Telsey Advisory Group. Please proceed.

Cristina Fernández

Hi, good morning. I wanted to start with a big picture question. Can you talk about what your view is of the housing market in 2024 that's informing your planning for the business? And do you think based on your positioning that you can outperform the overall market?

Steven G. Burdette

Well, I think I'll comment on the housing. I think it definitely has affected our business that the houses are getting built. It's just not enough level and the interest rates has certainly affected the ability for these people to afford it. So where some of our biggest states are Florida, Texas, Georgia, where people are moving, when people move into Florida, they buy new furniture. So anything involving a new transaction helps our business. I don't see I don't see through any of that. I don't see any clarity beyond that other than when we have new houses that helps our business and I don't see any new insights into the.
Do you have any comments on?
Okay.

Cristina Fernández

Okay.
So then another question, wanted to understand better the cost inflation that you're seeing on the various categories in the INCREASED on the XSG. and A., I know you don't guide to revenues, but when I do the math, let's assume, let's say like flat revenues, it implies an operating margin that's down based on my calculation, about 250 basis points at the midpoint based on the ranges you gave. So maybe just kind of walk us through sort of the increases you are seeing? And do you see this as temporary on or IEnova and their efforts to kind of trying to get back to that high single digit double digit operating margin?

Steven G. Burdette

Sure. Let me walk through the three guidance points that we put out in the press release. So first of all, on the gross profit margins, we're projecting out of a decline. I want to point out that in 2023, we had of the impact of a lifetime benefit was about 100 basis points in the previous year. In 2022, it was about 100 basis points going the other direction. So in 2024, we're really not anticipating any significant life of movement. So we're kind of going in without the benefit of a $9 million benefit going into 2024 that we had in 2023.
Yes, we're still going to still going to have strong margins of $59.5 million to $60 million.
On the variable G&A, we pointed out earlier some a little bit about the financing costs. We're doing some things in that regard where we were on going more towards that 48 versus the 60 month. It's less expensive. And we're not seeing any kind of a drop-off in sales. And if you look at where we were in the fourth quarter of the one that we're reporting now, we were right around 20%. So we're just at these volume levels, you have less cost absorption. So based on kind of where we were in the fourth quarter, I felt comfortable in guiding 19 9 to 20.2 kind of kind of where we were in the fourth quarter is kind of right in the middle of that guidance.
And then on the non-variable SG&A, there's about a $10 million spread between the results in 2023 versus the guidance in 2024, up about half of that is occupancy costs. So you got a couple of million dollars of the new stores that we're opening that will have in 2024 that we didn't have in 2023. And then you've got about $2 million or $3 million in 2023, we had about a $3 million credit through a lease modification that we don't have reoccurring in 2024.
So you've got about an all about $5 million worth of increased occupancy at occupancy expense between those two things and maybe just use about 2% inflation rate on $285 million that will get you the rest of the spreads. So it's just basically occupancy cost in general, 2% cost inflation kind of gets you that the rest of the nonvariable G&A increase.

Cristina Fernández

Okay.
That's very helpful. And then on the last question I had on the store openings. I guess how should we think about the contribution of new stores or opening more stores this year, if your average store did about $7 million in sales in 2023, how it's normally the ramp up of a new store to get to that level, like how usually what's year one, how does it ramp up to maturity?

Steven G. Burdette

You have a great question. So if you look at the average number of stores we have in our revenue, you're going to get $6 million to $7 million per location, and it usually takes us about a year to break within the end of year one, usually breaking even and then by the end of year three, we're fully ramped up throttled So full to go. So I'll see if you have any more operational color there. But just from a financial standpoint, that's kind of the way we model things.

Cristina Fernández

Yes, again, thank you for the color and best luck this quarter.

Steven G. Burdette

Thank you.

Richard B. Hare

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to management for closing remarks.

Steven G. Burdette

Thank you for your participation in today's call, and we look forward to talking to you with you in the future. When we release our first quarter results later this year.
Thank you.