Q4 2023 Medifast Inc Earnings Call

In this article:

Participants

Steve Zenker; Vice President of Investor Relations; Medifast Inc

Dan Chard; Chairman & Chief Executive Officer; Medifast Inc

Jim Maloney; Chief Financial Officer; Medifast Inc

Jim Salera; Analyst; Stephens Inc.

Linda Bolton Weiser

Presentation

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Medifast fourth quarter and full-year 2023 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions)
As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Steven Zenker, Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you, Steven. You may begin.

Steve Zenker

Good afternoon, and welcome to Medifast's fourth quarter 2023 earnings conference call. On the call with me today are Dan Chard, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Jim Maloney, Chief Financial Officer.
By now, everyone should have access to the earnings release for the quarter ended December 31, 2023, that went out this afternoon at approximately 4:05 Eastern time. If you have not received the release, it is available on the Investor Relations portion of Medifast's website at www.medifastinc.com. This call is being webcast, and a replay will also be available on the company's website.
Before we begin, we would like to remind everyone that today's prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. The words believe, expect, anticipate, and other similar expressions generally identify forward-looking statements. These statements do not guarantee future performance, and therefore, undue reliance should not be placed on them.
Actual results could differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements. All of the forward looking statements contained herein speak only as of the date of this call. Medifast assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements that may be made in today's release or call.
And with that, I would like to turn the call over to Medifast's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Dan Chard.

Dan Chard

Thanks, Steve, and thanks to everyone for joining us on today's call. With me is Jim Maloney, Medifast's Chief Financial Officer. I'll kick off with some comments on the company's work to drive business transformation and empower sustainable growth of Medifast and an update on how we are delivering against our objectives. I'll then hand things over to Jim to walk through our Q4 and full-year financials.
Over the course of the past 40 years, Medifast has established itself as an important player in the US health and wellness landscape. The company has consistently adapted to shifting consumer behavior, maintaining and building its relevance to ensure that it stays at the heart of the wellness journey of customers everywhere.
Now, Medifast is embarking on its biggest and most important transformation to date, taking bold steps to forge a new future as a diversified health and wellness company with significantly increased growth opportunities. While we historically focus on the $8 billion structured weight management segment of the total $230 billion health and wellness market, our new focus includes the medically-supported weight management and sports nutrition segments. Together, we expect these to more than quadruple the size of our target base.
The weight loss market is expected to grow significantly over the next six years, with GLP-1 medications alone projected to reach up to $100 billion by 2030 according to several Wall Street firms. Several factors are driving this significant growth projection, including further clinical development that improves efficacy and ease of administration, increasing insurance coverage and changes in pricing.
At the end of last year, we announced a new strategic collaboration with leading telehealth provider LifeMD. Through this collaboration, our customers will have access to both our personalized habit-based Coach-guided approach, along with the medical expertise of board-certified affiliated LifeMD clinicians. This offering extends beyond the initial efforts to lose weight, creating a pathway to a healthy lifestyle as a permanent part of each individual's health and wellness journey. This comprehensive wellness solution will be available to all people in the United States looking to make a healthy lifestyle second nature.
Independent research commissioned by Medifast last year clearly showed that people who are interested in medical weight loss solutions are also looking for support to establish an overall healthy lifestyle. 96% of those surveys recognize that lifestyle changes are needed for weight loss and maintenance. And only 17% are confident that they can manage on their own. More than half of those surveyed indicated that they are very concerned with the prospect of being on a weight loss medication for the rest of their lives.
GLP-1 products are not seen as a lifelong commitment by most, but instead, viewed as providing a catalyst to establish long-term health and well-being, with GLP-1 medications being prescribed for weight loss alongside lifestyle modifications as mandated by FDA requirements and some health plans requiring a period of lifestyle modification prior to coverage of these medications after the programs are well positioned to meet these needs. They provide a holistic solution to achieving and maintaining a healthy lifestyle.
While this initiative is a transformative step for our model of care, what is not changing is the role and importance of our incredible coach community. Coaches remained firmly at the center of our efforts. All of our customers work with coaches to make a healthy lifestyle second nature, whether they are just starting their health journey with the support of GLP-1 medications, transitioning off those medications or focusing on the medication free wellness journey. Three-pronged approach, which brings together customer coach and clinician markedly differentiates Octavia in the health and wellness landscape. Independent clinical studies conducted by Medifast show that and after via structured programs with one-on-one coaching support are 10 times more effective for weight loss than a self-directed reduced calorie diet alone. The decision to collaborate with Life MD follows a successful six month pilot life. Md delivers high-quality virtual health care, thanks to their affiliated medical group, anchored by full-time providers who are credentialed to treat patients in all 50 states. They already service over 200 different conditions. I've conducted 800,000 virtual consults and continue to grow their business by adding 750 patients a day. The life and deep collaboration went live in early January, giving all of our coaches and customers. The ability to work with clinicians. Early results are encouraging and meeting our expectations by midyear. We anticipate launching a more seamlessly integrated solution with life, MD offering deeper interaction coordination and more seamless activities. We have already developed two new product bundles for those on GLP-1 medications based on independent research that showed people were creating their own bundled nutrition solutions by assembling disparate pieces and spending about the same amount as the price of our initial bundles. As previously indicated, we are investing in customer acquisition and customer experience to drive long-term growth for currently building out a new comprehensive co-lead national marketing campaign to complement the existing outreach effort of our coaches and to broaden awareness of the Optiva brand among key demographics. Investment in this important initiative will ramp up significantly as we move through the year and launch our integrated solution with Life MD. We'll also work closely with Life MD to ensure that we provide our existing patients with access to our own lifestyle programs, including a dedicated Coach Alight and the collaboration as well as our co-lead marketing activities will give us two incremental channels for new customer growth, and we expect to begin to see their impact on revenues as we approach the end of 2024 and into 2025 and beyond. Our strong balance sheet with significant cash and liquid investments, and no debt provides us with the liquidity to aggressively pursue these new customer acquisition initiatives and our capacity is further enhanced by our Board of Directors' decision to discontinue the quarterly dividend as we announced in December to prioritize our capital for growth initiatives in the years ahead. Our fuel for the future cost efficiency program is also a significant contributor to that effort with expense savings ahead of schedule expectations are now at the high end of the 200 to 300 basis point target savings previously indicated. This has been achieved by empowering our procurement organization to negotiate additional savings and by utilizing value engineering in key areas such as R&D. We're also working hard to shift customer support to more of a self-service model in order to power substantial additional savings being flexible and agile is imperative in this fast-changing environment. And by taking actions to optimize our operations, we're able to shift resources to areas that present the greatest opportunity for revenue and profit growth.
One recent area of investment that ties neatly into our work in the medically supported weight-loss space has been our entrance into the sports nutrition market with the launch of our new Octavia active product line in the second half of last year. This premium line of products is scientifically designed to help those looking to add an exercise component to their routine is also an important part of programs developed for medically supported weight loss customers, helping retain lean muscle mass aging and weight loss are two common causes of reduced muscle mass and up to 50% of weight loss for medication could come from lean muscle mass and not fad. Our active products help provide reassurance that weight loss is focused on fat burning while minimizing muscle loss. Almost a third of our new customers placed an order with at least one active product since the launch of the active product line to customers in mid-September. All this work dovetails together to drive transformative effects across the business. Expansion of our addressable market and our customer facing offer enables us to power increases in customer acquisition. We expect that our newly acquired customers using medically supported weight loss products will have a lower order size, but we'll use our Octavia coaching services and nutritional support products for longer as we expand our reach beyond weight loss into maintenance and other healthy habits such as exercise and sports nutrition. We've seen strong retention for our pilot customers who have been on a Life MD program since last summer. It's a small sample size, but it gives us helpful insight and confidence as we move forward with our 2024 plans.
Turning now to performance in the fourth quarter. Typically, the fourth quarter was a slower one for health and wellness companies. Medifast did hit the high end of its revenue guidance and met its EPS guidance as well. Results were down over the prior year quarter as we continued to see challenges from the impact of macro factors and GLP-1 medications. Customer acquisition and coach numbers continue to see pressure from headwinds that have impacted us over the last 18 months. However, we believe that the investments made during 2024 will help assure that coaches benefit not only from their own traditional recruitment efforts, but also from new customer sources from the life and the collaboration and from co-lead marketing initiatives as we seek to tap into the sizable and fast-growing medically supported weight loss opportunity, MetaSolv's commitment to helping people make a healthy lifestyle.
Second nature includes actively supporting communities in need. I'm proud of the impact we've made through our corporate social responsibility initiative, Healthy Habits For All which advances our mission by providing the education and access necessary to create healthy habits. We have now impacted more than 100,000 students with lessons designed to equip students with the skills, knowledge and confidence to build healthy habits from a young age, together with our Cogent client community in 2023 we also increased access to nutritious food through a continued partnership with the national nonprofit No Kid Hungry. To date, we have helped provide nearly 14 million healthy meals to deserving kids transformation is at the heart of this business and always has been throughout our history. We have helped our customers and coaches transform their lives, and we have consistently adapted our own business approach to drive growth and adjust to changing dynamics in the marketplace. Today, the new realities of the weight loss and health and wellness environment presents yet another transformative opportunity. One that we intend to seize our management team and all of our remarkable team members are focus and working diligently to enable meaningful change in every aspect of our work.
What is clear to us is that our business model is as relevant as ever and helping individuals lose weight and live a healthier lifestyle. There's still much to be done, but we have a differentiated strategy, ample liquidity and investment firepower and a motivated and enthusiastic coach community that is excited about the opportunities that lie ahead. We have an important year ahead of us and I'm confident in our team's ability to navigate our transformation as we execute on our long-term growth strategy.
With that, I'll turn it over to Jim to go over the specifics of our financials.

Jim Maloney

Thank you, Dan. Good afternoon, everyone. 2023 full-year results were in line with our guidance as we begin to leverage the cost savings generated in the prior quarters to establish a foundation in new markets and take action on plan growth initiatives.
Revenue for the full year of $1.07 billion was at the upper end of our guidance range of 1.05 to 1.07 billion, but decreased 32.9% versus 2022, primarily driven by continued pressure on customer acquisition, which has led to a decline in the number of active earning Optibase coaches and productivity per active earning after the coach revenue for the fourth quarter of 2023 decreased 43.4%, 191 million from $337.2 million in the fourth quarter of 2020 to as customer acquisition continues to be pressured by growth in popularity of weight-loss medications. We ended the quarter with approximately 41,100 active earning off the VA coaches, a decrease of 32.5% from the fourth quarter of 2020 to average revenue per active earning off the VA coach for the fourth quarter was $4,648, a year-over-year decline of 16.1%, reflecting the continued headwinds to customer acquisition. Gross profit decreased 39.5%, $141.4 million for the fourth quarter of 2023, driven by lower revenue. Gross profit margin improved 470 basis points to 74%, positively impacted by cost savings from the Company's fuel for the Future program, as well as the absence of restructuring costs of certain manufacturing agreements that occurred in the fourth quarter of 2022. On a non-GAAP adjusted basis, excluding one-time expenses related to the 2022 restructuring, gross profit decreased 42.5% to 141.4 million and gross profit margin increased 110 basis points to 74%. Sg&a expense was down 34% to $132.7 million for the fourth quarter of 2023, primarily due to decreased Coach compensation on lower volume and fewer active earning coaches, progress on several cost reduction optimization initiatives and the impact from the charitable donation made in 2022, partially offset by market research and investment costs related to medically supported weight loss. Sg&a as a percentage of revenue increased 990 basis points as a result of loss of leverage of fixed cost due to lower sales volume and market research and investment costs related to medically supported weight loss activities, partially offset by progress on several cost reduction and optimization initiatives and the charitable donation impact in 2022.
On a non-GAAP adjusted basis, which excludes one-time costs to initiate the Life MD collaboration and reorganize the IT and supply chain functions. Sg&a decreased 35% to $125.1 million and moved 840 basis points higher as a percent of revenue to 65.5%.
Income from operations was 8.7 million in the fourth quarter of 2023 down 73.4% versus the year earlier period, driven by lower gross profit, partially offset by lower SG&A. As a percentage of revenue, income from operations was 4.5% in the fourth quarter, a 510 basis point decline versus the year-earlier level on a non-GAAP adjusted basis, which excludes one-time expenses described previously.
Income from operations decreased 69.5%. You are 16.2 million as a percent of revenue. Non-gaap adjusted income from operations was 8.5%, a decrease of 730 basis points from the year ago period. Effective tax rate of 38.4% was higher than expected and higher than the 18.2% recorded in the prior year's fourth quarter due to inventory overhead adjustments for tax reporting purposes, which reduced the expected tax benefit for charitable donations of inventory. On a non-GAAP adjusted basis, the effective tax rate in the fourth quarter was 31.6%. Net income in the fourth quarter of 2023 was $6 million or $0.55 per diluted share compared to $26.5 million or $2.41 per diluted share in the year earlier period. On a non-GAAP adjusted basis, net income in the fourth quarter of 2023 was 11.9 million, or $1.9 per diluted share.
Turning to our balance sheet and cash flow, our financial position remains strong with 150 million in cash, cash equivalents and investments and no interest-bearing debt as of December 31st, 2023, cash flow from operations continues to be strong at $147.7 million for the year ended December 31st, 2023. During the quarter, our Board of Directors made the decision to discontinue Medifast dividend, redirecting the capital to invest in growth and technology initiatives to help drive growth in the years ahead. The bulk of those funds will be invested in initiatives designed to improve our customer acquisition and customer experience, which we believe will lead to greater long-term value for our stockholders. The Life MD collaboration and our co-lead customer acquisition initiatives are just two examples of how we expect to use those funds.
Now I'll turn to our guidance. We are expecting first quarter revenue to range from 155 to 175 million, reflecting continued near term challenges in the face of changing dynamics in the weight loss business impact from the growth of GLP-1 medications in the marketplace as well as a deliberate change to our promotion strategy, which eliminated a customer promotion in January 2024 as compared to January 2023. Our some of the factors that will negatively impact the results in the first quarter of this year versus last year. We expect our EPS for the quarter to range from $0.25 to $0.95. The EPS range excludes the costs related to the initiation of the Life MD collaboration and any gains or losses from changes in the market price of our Life MD common stock, while the operating environment remains challenging. We continue to believe that meaningful spending on driving customer acquisition from two additional sources, company lead marketing and customer flow from life. Md will lead to an improvement in customer acquisition trends beginning in the back half of 2024 as our growth initiatives begin to ramp up. And this also means that we should start to see an increase in SG&A for the year beginning in Q2 that for the entire year will approximate 200 to 300 basis points of incremental spend as a percent of revenue based on 2023 revenues as we increase our marketing activities, that elevated level is expected to continue into 2025. These increases in marketing spending as well as the leverage of fixed cost are expected to exceed the savings we expect from our fuel for the Future initiative, which, as a result will negatively impact our operating margin and EPS in 2024 and likely 2025 as well. Therefore, while we still are targeting 15% revenue growth and a 15% operating margin in the long term, it could take longer than previously discussed due to the factors I just mentioned.
In summary, we are taking steps to help transform Medifast into a diversified health and wellness company. The reallocation of resources, along with our expense reduction efforts are expected to help drive significant improvement in our operations as we move throughout the year and into 2025. And as we look to expand our market, pursue other growth opportunities and bring lasting value to the business.
With that, let me turn the call to the operator for questions.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Jim Salera, Stephens Inc.

Jim Salera

I guess, thanks for taking my questions. If we take a look at the number of active earning coaches in the fourth quarter, the end of the fourth quarter, I think if my math is correct. It's the biggest year over year decline of 2023. And I believe the first time quarterly revenue per coach was below $5,000, at least as far back as I have the quarterly numbers, I think, to 2017, is that a trend that we're going to need to see reverse before the sales trend and stabilize? Or do you guys feel that when you turn on the marketing spend at a company level that it's going to enable you to grow without relying as much on, you know, of returned to growth in coaches as well?

Dan Chard

Yes, that's a great question. And I think part of the answer is tied to what we saw in the period going from 2016 to 2017 as we resumed growth based on our new model. What we'd expect to see is as we complete the integration of the technology between Medifast and Life MD, that will give our client or our coaches, the ability to have a seamless experience for clients and will expand our offer to include not only the new products that we've launched, but also seamless experience as they are able to access life MDs clinic and physician services as well as the medically supported weight-loss products. At that point, what we'd expect to see is a little bit lower per quarter revenue number, but an expanded ability to acquire new clients returning to something closer to what we've seen in the past.
The other thing that we expect to see, Steve, is that we will we'll we'll have it broader or a longer lifetime in terms of MS measured by months for each of these these new clients. So those two things together should drive that productivity per coach back up to historical levels.

Jim Salera

As a follow-up, Dan, to your comment on life, MD, it should we think about the incremental sales lift from that partnership is kind of limited until the fully integrated offer is launched. I mean, does that prevent you guys from seeing much incrementality? Or should we still expect to continue that ramp even before the integrated product is launched in the middle of the year?

Dan Chard

Yes.
So this is Jim, Jim. So you know, our Q1 guidance where we're up, we believe we're going to continue to see pressure in revenue due to we're looking at that seamless offer. And in our prepared remarks, we mentioned that's going to happen midyear. So once that activity is finalized, then you're going to see incremental advertising company advertising pretty much in the range of about 20 to 30 million, which the company has, you know, really never spent that kind of money in this channel before. So we're expecting we built the channel regarding life, MD, our four customers and the channel for company lead acquisition to be in the back half of 2024 due to that seamless offer getting the technology ready for that Symbol's offer.

Jim Salera

Okay.
That's helpful. And then if I can maybe sneak in one other question for you, Jim, from you guys, all solid gross margin uplift in 4Q. And I believe in the slide deck, you mentioned $45 million in fuel for savings for the year for 2023, maybe just size up what the opportunity for that is in 2024, given the headwind that you're going to see from the increase in company lead marketing?

Jim Maloney

Yes.
I mean, we're you know, the 110 basis point improvement on an on a non-GAAP basis in gross margin. We are down. That was mainly from the price increase that we took at the end of Q2, Q4 of 2024. And it's really just lapping that price increase when at what I'm expecting, you know, the fuel for the Future program, they generated about 45 million to operating income. That benefited both cost of sales and SG&A, and that will continue. Those cost savings will continue into some into 2024. We haven't presented a target for that scheme. So we're not we didn't provide any target for that, but we are going to get additional savings but we do expect that a all the cost savings from the fuel for the future will be spent back on investments for growth opportunities. The one you mention is the marketing via the Company led marketing activity that will be about 20 to $30 million on a full year basis. That really won't start until later on this year. Once we get the seamless offer ready come. Also, we're spending some funds on market research technology and other activities regarding medic, medically supportive weight loss in Q4. Just to give you a feel we those investments, we're about 690 basis points, and that did not even include the $5 million of of the initial payments that we paid Life MD. So we're going to continue to invest in the up in these growth opportunities and for for the next year and you're going to see pressure on not just our our gross margin's going to be more. We're really looking at our operating income margin is really where that's going to be impacted the most. So it's going to be it's going to be included mostly in SG&A, whereas where it was in Q4.

Jim Salera

Got it.
That's helpful color, guys.
Thank you.
I'll hop back in the queue.

Dan Chard

Thanks, Jim.

Operator

Linda Bolton Weiser, D.A. Davidson.

Linda Bolton Weiser

So I think you so just so I understand the comments you made about the incremental costs and expenses of the 200 to 300 basis points of incremental spending, which I think you said would all be in SG&A. Is that in about improvements is there in addition to and separate from the advertising blending that you're talking about.

Jim Maloney

So that is that that's the same. So the 200 to 300 basis points which really equates to approximately 20 to $30 million. We're going to start spending that in the coming months as we get the seamless offer all completed by mid year. So you're going to see that that type of spend start to happen probably towards the end of Q2 and then into Q2, three and beyond.
So that's our that's our expectations at this point, Linda, why don't I'm trying to clarify like is that advertising spending to draw people into the seamless offering?
Yes, it is correct.

Linda Bolton Weiser

Okay.
Then you should have the seamless offering all ready to go at the time you start turning on that advertising spend? Is that the way to think about it?

Jim Maloney

That's exactly right.
Yes.
And we're thinking that's going to happen midyear, and that's when you're going to see that type of incremental advertising happening. And that will that will be reported in SG&A.

Linda Bolton Weiser

Okay.
I got home for them is that.
Well, I guess I guess here's the thing. I mean, are you working in conjunction in a collaborative effort with Life MD to put forth an advertising message? And are they spending the same amount or are you spending like what's the combined spending on the advertising front?

Jim Maloney

I think that's what we look like at these spends is something for them to announce the messages that are the message they're putting out it is to draw to say their traditional message, which ties to their primary care physician services. What we do know, though, and we mentioned this in the comments. If you step back and you say, well, what does it really that we're doing as a as a company? And as a first, we're giving the message and a new message to our coaches, which means that coaches can now offer the support of the clinician and for the after the programs. So that's a modified message for them and they will continue to use that message over and above our communities and using social media platforms.
The second channel for client acquisition is the one you just described that Jim just described in the you asked a question on, which is company lead acquisition that's done in coordination with our coaches, and it's providing coaches within that within that mass the coach offer within that message.
And the third is the one that you're asking about now, which is client acquisition through our partner life, M.D. So what they have a very specific formula to drive the best results for their at their client are the key to their patient acquisition. What they also know is that once their patients are in and using their product, they've surveyed them. And they know that a significant portion of described that as about 50% of the patients they bring in are looking for additional support for lifestyle programs. And those are the kind of type of lifestyle programs that we offer throughout the year. So the intention is to support those patients who want to have a kind of support. And so we're at the very beginning of this. This was part of the reason they were excited, enthusiastic about partnering with us through this collaboration agreements. And we believe that through these three new client acquisition channels, we have an important and meaningful way to impact our client acquisition capabilities as we move through the year.

Linda Bolton Weiser

So the answer go forward in time over the long term, do you expect to continue to ramp up the pull marketing spend? So you're saying it be, you know, 20 to 30 million. So that's 2% to 3% of sales, but like does that go higher overtime to 5% of sales or does it go lower as your coach network becomes used to marketing that message yes, I don't I don't know.

Jim Maloney

We know that answer rate right now, and there will be more to come on that as we learn more information on this, this is the early stages of this. But what I can say on that is we're going to look to see what the return on investment of that marketing spend is for that particular channel. And determine the profitability of that channel to make additional adjustments within that channel on marketing spend. So there's going to be more to come on that. There's really I can't give you with a full answer on that to for you to model out 2025. But you know, we wanted to give what 2024 will look like. It's to investors at this point.

Linda Bolton Weiser

Okay.
And then I'm just curious, are you making any changes to your commission structure to help fund the advertising spend? Are you making no changes at this time for the commission structure due to the change in commission structure.
Okay.
And Tom, maybe you could share with us what you're learning from Life MD about on like what are they saying about the availability of the brand drugs versus compound. And I know they work with a compounder or compounders for the drug to get their drugs to their customers to their patients? Are they are they seeing more availability of the branded drug or kind of what are they seeing on that front?

Dan Chard

I think their access is the same as everyone else is to the brand. And I think there have been some some supply shortages. I think you're referencing and they have a reliable supplier for the compounded version of the active GLP-1 ingredients. So they're able to offer both our solutions for for their patients. And like I said, there's there's there's no there are there access to the branded product is through the same pharmacies that everybody else is using.

Linda Bolton Weiser

Okay.
And then can you just remind us in terms of what they provide to patients today, help them with insurance navigation?

Dan Chard

And if so what percentage of their GLP-1 patients, you have insurance coverage for that and they do offer assistance with them with navigating the insurance question and then provide solutions for those who are not insured or underinsured, and they we don't report on their specific metrics. So I leave that question to them to answer.
In terms of what percentage are insured versus uninsured but I do think and I think you're getting at, as I mentioned this earlier, they have a unique offering during a time of scarcity and some supply constraints to provide those who are looking for an answer and through alternative means other than that through through their compound pharmacy to have a viable way to achieve the benefits of medical support, weight loss and so I think that's that was one of the attractive offers that they have along with. They're very specific type of primary care physicians support through there. They're a robust platform so I think we're I would say at this stage, we are very pleased with the collaboration that we're seeing, as we said, where our IT. respective IT. teams are actively working as we speak to achieve this integration. And all of that is meant to provide an excellent and cloud experience on our side are patient experience on their side to achieve this lifestyle component that's becoming more and more relevant as we learn more about what people are looking for and how to achieve the best outcomes while using GLP-1 medications.

Linda Bolton Weiser

Okay.
And then finally, the range for EPS for the first quarter, it seems a little bit wide and is the variability of getting to the low end versus the high end of EPS that just variability around how revenue comes out? Or is it that you're unsure of gross margin or the SG&A spending level? What is variability there?

Jim Maloney

It's mainly the SG&A spending and it depends on the investments that I spoke about earlier, how much of it is actually spent in Q1. That's the most. That's the majority of the variability.

Linda Bolton Weiser

Okay.
All right.
Thanks a lot. I appreciate it.

Dan Chard

Thank you, Vanessa.

Operator

Thank you. There are no questions. There are no further questions at this time, but I'd like to hand the floor back to Dan Chard for any closing comments.

Dan Chard

I'd like to thank you both for your questions and for the opportunity to further expand on our transformation, our transport division on today's call today we stand at the start of an important shift in this company's proud and successful history as we broaden our approach and position ourselves to be ever more central to the health and wellness journeys of people across United States and beyond. We have remarkable platform built on deep experience, strong collaborations, investment firepower and talented and passionate coaches and employees who can help us deliver on our goals and our mission to make healthy habits.
Second nature has never been more important in a world where obesity remains a significant and growing problem. I'm excited about the opportunity that Medifast has has to become an ever more important part of the solution. And I look forward to updating you further on our progress on our next call.
Thanks, everyone, and have a great day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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