Q4 2023 SJW Group Earnings Call
Participants
Andrew Walters; Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer; SJW Group
Eric Thornburg; Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; SJW Group
Angie Storozynski; Analyst; Seaport Global
Jonathan Reeder; Analyst; Wells Fargo Securities LLC
Roger Liddell; Analyst; Clear Harbor Asset Management
Presentation
Operator
Good day, and thank you for standing by, and welcome to the SJW Group 2023 financial results conference call. (Operator Instructions) Again, please be advised today's conference is being recorded.
I would now like to hand the conference over to your speakers today, Andrew Walters, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Please go ahead.
Andrew Walters
Thank you, operator. Welcome to the 2023 financial results conference call for the SJW Group. I will be presenting today with Eric Thornburg, Chair of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer. For those who would like to follow along slides accompanying our remarks are available on our website at SJW Group.com.
Before we begin today, I would like to remind you that this presentation and the related materials posted on our website may contain forward-looking statements. These statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by and the company in light of its experience, historical trends, current conditions and expected future results as well as other factors that the company believes are appropriate under the circumstances.
Many factors could cause the company's actual results and performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward looking state for a description of some of the factors that could cause actual results to be different from statements in this presentation. We refer you to the financial results, press release and to our most recent Forms 10-K, 10-Q, and 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, copies of which may be obtained on our website.
All forward-looking statements are made as of today, and SJW Group disclaims any duty to update or revise such date. You will have an opportunity to ask questions at the end of the presentation. As a reminder, this webcast is being recorded and an archive of the webcast will be available until April 22, 2024. You can access the press release and the webcast at our corporate website.
I will now turn the call over to Eric Thornburg.
Eric Thornburg
Eric, and welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us. My name is Eric Thornburg, and it is my honor to serve as Chair President and CEO of SJW Group. I'm pleased to share that we had another successful year as our team continues to meet drinking water and environmental standards, deliver on our public health and environmental stewardship commitments and provide high-quality water and exceptional service to customers.
We also started and ended our 2023 financial performance on a strong note, delivering value for our shareholders through the continued execution of our proven growth strategy. In 2023, we secured constructive regulatory outcomes across our operations including a cost of capital decision and the reimplementation of the water conservation memorandum account in California, water infrastructure and conservation adjustments in Connecticut and the settlement of our bid for Tsakos general rate case in Maine, we achieved 12% customer growth year over year in Texas since 2006, Texas Water has more than quadrupled in customers through organic growth and strategic acquisitions and today serves more than 28,000 water connections and 950 wastewater connections.
We invested $272 million in capital improvements, surpassing our planned expenditures announced at this time last year by $17 million, thanks to the efforts of our local teams, our investments in drinking water and wastewater infrastructure spanned the replacement of over 47 miles of water mains to water treatment improvements, including a $14 million groundwater treatment facility in East Windsor, Connecticut upgrades at our park shores surface water treatment facility in small County, Texas construction of an 800,000 gallon storage lagoon in Camden, Maine and to 5 million gallon storage tanks in California.
We advanced our commitment to reduce operating costs by investing in capital projects that sustainably reduce operating expenses like our asset management program in California. This program reduces unplanned repairs and maintenance expenses by leveraging technology, including artificial intelligence to predict the failure of an asset and the resulting consequence. And we delivered earnings per diluted share of $0.59 in the fourth quarter and $2.68 for the year well above our original forecast in 2024.
We will continue to execute on the key elements of our strategy to create meaningful value and drive future earnings growth we will continue making strategic investments to maintain and improve our water supply and infrastructure and also focus on opportunities that reduce operating expenses. These include advanced leak detection, advanced metering infrastructure that promises to reduce field visits and fleet miles, additional solar generation, battery energy storage systems and expansion of our electric vehicle fleet.
We will also see increased capital expenditures to remediated per and poly fluoro Alequel substances or PE funds. Approximately 230 million is estimated for P. phos treatments, and we remain intensely focused on working with regulators and stakeholders for constructive regulatory outcomes across our operations, such as the recently filed general rate case in California, the ongoing general rate case in Connecticut and the system improvement charge in Texas, which we will discuss later in the call.
For now, Andrew will review our financial results and regulatory updates in our state operations. Andrew?
Andrew Walters
Thank you, Eric. Last evening, after the market closed we released our fourth quarter and 2023 operating results. A couple of items to note the quarter over quarter comparisons between the 2023 and 2022 operating results are affected by and reflect the delay in San Jose Water companies 2022, 2024 general rate case decision. As a reminder, while the California Public Utilities Commission approved the settlement agreement incentives, a water company recorded the authorized revenue increase from the general rate case in the fourth quarter of 2022.
The revenue increase was retroactive to January first, 2022. This delay in recognizing the revenues authorized in the General Rate Case affected quarter over quarter comparisons in 2020. Also in California, the CPUC authorized reimplementation of the water conservation memorandum account or WCMA. and water conservation expense management accounted for WCMA in October 2023. These revenue expense protection mechanisms were retroactive to April 20, 2023, and are reflected entirely in the fourth quarter results. We saw reduced water usage in Maine due to wet weather and lower industrial usage and in Texas due to water restrictions because of continuing drought conditions.
Now to the results for the quarter, fourth quarter reported revenue of $171.3 million and net income of $18.9 million or diluted EPS of $0.59 per share. This compares to 2022 quarterly revenue of $171.4 million and net income of $33.5 million or diluted EPS of $1.9 per share. For the full year of 2023, we reported revenue of $670.4 million and net income of $85 million or diluted EPS of $2.68 per share. This compares to 2022 revenue of $620.7 million, reflecting an 8% increase in net income of $73.8 million, reflecting a 15% increase for diluted EPS of $2.43 per share, reflecting a 10% increase was driven in part by a $0.14 increase due to the partial release of income tax reserves.
As you can see, the year-to-date increase in diluted earnings per share for 2023 was primarily driven by rate filings of $1.30 per share in California and Maine, as well as a water infrastructure and conservation adjustment increase in Connecticut that were effective in 2023.
Other factors include approximately $0.42 combined split evenly between the partial release of income tax reserves that I mentioned a moment ago, lower maintenance in OI cost and the impacts of lower customer usage and the WCMA offset partially offsetting the increase was higher water supply cost of $0.93, interest expense of $0.23 on short-term and new long-term debt and a non-recurring $0.17 gain on the sale non-utility profits.
Our breakeven breakdown of the increase in revenue compared to 2022 revenue increase was mostly driven by $46.5 million in cumulative rate filings and $5.7 million of regulatory mechanisms. The revenue increase was partially offset by $6.6 million decreased due to lower usage.
Turning to our water production expense, there was an increase in water production expense when compared to 2022. The increase was largely driven by $31.8 million in water supply cost, primarily related to the rate increase from our water wholesaler Valley Water in California. Partially offsetting the increase in expenses was a $9.7 million decrease due to lower usage.
The 3% increase in total other operating expenses compared to the prior year was primarily driven by a $6.2 million gain on prior year sales that did not occur in 2023, an increase in the allowance for customer credit losses and the depreciation and amortization increase was partially offset by reduced expenses with a significant portion of this reduction due to San Jose Water Company's continued focus on maturity of the advanced asset management program, which includes infrastructure, condition, monitoring and assessments, proactive planned asset replacement versus a run to failure approach.
Additionally, advances Ascentage San Jose Water Company's leak detection technology deployed in the field as well as other enhanced leak detection capabilities in our field crews had together enabled the Company to detect and repair it leaks sooner, avoiding significant cost associated with larger emergency main breaks and the distribution system.
Turning to our 2023 financing activity, approximately $83 million in gross proceeds was raised in 2023 through our at-the-market program, including %5.7 million in the fourth quarter, $50 million was for general corporate purposes, and the additional amount was raised for acquisitions that closed in the third quarter.
At the end of the year, we had a $171.5 million drawn on our %350 million bank lines of credit, leaving $178.5 billion available for short-term financing of utility plant additions and operating activities. The average borrowing rate for the line of credit advances during 2023 was approximately 6.29%. Average borrowing rate in 2022 was approximately 3.41% effective consolidated income tax rates for 2023 and 2022 were approximately 7% and 10%, respectively.
Turning to the California update on January second, 2020. For this San Jose Water Company filed a general rate case application with the California Public Utilities Commission that will set rates for 2025 through 2027. Application proposes a three-year $540 million capital expenditure program that addresses several key needs, including treating P phos, which I mentioned earlier, to meet drinking water standards being finalized by the US Epa reducing greenhouse gas emissions through solar generation, energy storage storage systems, replace diesel generators, fleet electrification and advanced acoustic leak detection, plus advancing the CPUC's, environmental and social justice and social justice action plan to improve access to high quality water service, climate resiliency, and economic and workforce developed.
As of January first, 2024, San Jose Water Company has the benefit of a group insurance balancing account. The purpose of the account is to capture the difference between authorized and actual medical dental and opt out insurance costs. This is yet another regulatory mechanism that helps us to manage this escalating unpredictable EXPECT 2024 cost of capital mechanism adjustment was effective on January 1, 2024. It was triggered by a 140 basis point increase in Moody's AA bond index between October 1, 2022 and September 30, 2023.
The return on equity is now 10.01% less a 20 basis point reduction due to the reimplementation of the water conservation memorandum account for the authorized for an authorized ROE of 9.81%. Cost of debt is 5.28% and the authorized rate of return is seven points, 5% on February second, 2020 for San Jose Water Company, along with three other Class A California water utilities received approval from the CPUC for a one year deferment in the 2024 cost of capital filing.
With this decision, the CPUC extended the initial filing deadline from May 1, 2024 to May 1, 2025. Help alleviate administrative processing costs for both the water utilities and the CPUC staff approved deferral includes a provision that the water cost of capital mechanisms remain in place for 2025 and allows it to adjust up or down in accordance with the movement of 100 basis points or more in the Moody's AA bond index between October 1, 2023 at September 30, 2024. You may recall our advanced metering infrastructure project was authorized by the CPUC in 2022, we're planning to invest approximately $29 million in the AMI project in 2024. This is a one approximately $100 million project that is separate from the General Rate Case capital budget and the majority of the installation is expected between 2024 and 2026.
Turning to Connecticut. In Connecticut, we recently concluded the evidentiary hearings and our general rate case that was filed with the Connecticut Public Utility Regulatory Authority in October 2023. Our request is for a $21.4 million or 18.1% increase in annual revenues. Approximately two-thirds of the requested rate increases related to infrastructure investment application also includes a proposal for expanding our low-income water rate Assistance Program, also known as RAP for income eligible customers. We were in the US. We were the first water utility in the state to offer this type of program.
And in 2023, we provided more than $70,000 in customer assistance through RAB. We are hopeful that Piura will authorize our request expansion of this important progress. We expect a decision on the Connecticut General Rate Case at the end of June with any approved revenue increase to be effective on or about July 1, 2024. The decision is not expected to be a significant driver of our 2024 financial results. Pierre approved a 1.19% increase in water infrastructure and conservation adjustment that was effective on October 1, 2023, increases generating approximately $1.3 million annualized revenues.
Last March, we filed our general rate case in Maine Water companies better for Taco division, requesting a $2.9 million increase in annualized revenues to cover the operating expenses and increased borrowing costs from constructing the new Selco river water resource center. The Maine Public Utilities Commission authorized a temporary rate increase in August of 2023, while the general rate case was being processed on January 5, 2024, the Maine Public Utility Commission approved a stipulation agreement between Maine Water and the Office of Public Advocate on our General Rate Case provisions of the approved stipulation agreement include Maine Water's annualized revenue increase by $2.6 billion effective January 1, 2024, the return on equity for better for Taco division and for future filings of water infrastructure charges or risk filings. Statewide is now 9.5% with an assumed 51% equity and 49% debt capital structure. There's a general rate case stay-out provision with the bid for Taco division through January 1, 2027. Stay-out does not include risk factors.
Yes, Maine Water expects a decision in the first quarter of 2024 on its risk filing to recover $1.7 million in completed infrastructure investments in Camden and Rockland division. If approved as requested, it would generate $150,000 in annualized revenues. As Eric mentioned, at the top of the call, we have seen accelerated growth in Texas and that momentum continues in just the past year.
We have seen increasing developer interest in our Texas service area as outstanding development units with the potential for new connections increased 47% to 22,000 units. Today, it's not surprising this Texas Water can currently serve three of the five fastest growing counties in the United States according to the US Census Bureau, with more than 28,000 water connections, 950 wastewater connections in the area between Austin and San Antonio. The Company has quadrupled its service connections since 26, and we intend to continue this momentum through prudent acquisitions, organic growth and securing strategic water resources such as the supply we acquired in the third quarter.
In January, we filed an application with the Public Utility Commission of Texas to acquire the three double oh nine water company in COBOL county that serves approximately 270 water connects. On February 13, we received a proposed order from the Public Utility Commission of Texas on our application for a system improvement charge in Texas. The proposed order authorized Texas Water to add certain utility plant additions made since 2022. Its rate base, thereby increase revenue and avoiding a general rate case in 2024.
Our system improvement charge filing in December 2022, projected an annualized revenue increase of $1.6 million with one year of the PUC was within one year of the PUCT's approval. Our final order is expected as early as March seventh, 2020. Yes, we have seen some recent improvement in the drought conditions in Texas, though the US drought monitor continue to classify our service areas being in a state of moderate to extreme drought. Most of our service areas classified as stage two or stage three drought conditions. While our smaller a smaller portion is in the most severe stage for drought conditions, we are targeting voluntary water use reductions that vary based on drought stage.
Overall, we've seen reduced usage in this service area compared to 2022 due to the drought with a diverse portfolio of water supplies a growing wastewater business and continued acquisitions to the customer base through organic growth and acquisitions. We are very pleased with Texas Waters increased contributions to our consolidated earnings and remain optimistic about its prospects.
We're announcing our 2024 guidance of $2.68 to $2.78 of net income per diluted share, which is consistent with our nonlinear long-term growth rate of 5% to 7%. Equity issuance of $55 million to $65 million, excluding acquisition growth, is to support a strong capital investment program. We maintain our five year capital investment outlook of $1.6 billion, which includes approximately $230 million in estimated P phos remediation based on the EPA's proposed maximum contaminant level factors underlying our 2024 guidance include a return on equity increase in California from 9.31% to 9.81% net of the 20 basis points and reimplementation of WCMA, which was effective already as of January 1, 2024.
The impact of the already completed that effort Sacco rate case with a 9.5% ROE and 51% equity, 49% debt capital structure effective January first, three 24, as well as constructive regulatory decisions on current and prospective regulatory filings. This includes strategic reinvestments in the business in 2024 and the guidance range is consistent with our long-term growth rate.
Further, we reaffirm our stated long-term growth rate of 5% to 7%. That is anchored off our 2022 diluted earnings per share of $2.43, which is nonlinear because of rate case cycle as investors consider our 2024 guidance. It's important to note that, as we mentioned earlier, there was a one-time release of $0.14 related to income tax reserves in 2023.
With that I will turn the call over to Eric.
Eric Thornburg
Thank you, Andrew. Our 2024 planned capital expenditures are $332 million across all four of our state operations, which includes the $29 million budgeted for advanced metering infrastructure in California. Approximately 65% of our annual capital budget will be recovered through pre-approved projects and infrastructure recovery mechanisms.
Approximately one-third of our 2024 budgeted capital expenditures or nearly $114 million is targeted to water main replacement. This investment is vital to our principled approach of replacing 1% of transmission and distribution mains each year. Other projects commencing or scheduled for completion in 2024 reflect our commitment to invest in new or replacement treatment and storage systems that are designed and constructed to be more energy efficient and to meet changing operational challenges, including climate change.
These projects include a multi-year pipeline project to bring new water supply from the recently acquired KT. water resources to our customers in Texas, a water storage project at our Cambrian station in California to 8.3 million gallon tanks will be constructed to replace aging storage reservoirs that date back as far as 1890. This multi-year project will enhance water quality, conserve water and have lower maintenance costs in Connecticut work has started on a new ground water treatment facility in South Barry. This is a new facility to remove iron and manganese that has caused episodes of discovered water for decades.
Since Connecticut Water acquired the system in 2017, we have been aggressively addressing the issue by optimizing water treatment and replacing water mains, but the treatment facilities necessary to achieve an efficient long term solution in Maine. We're preparing this year for the construction of a solar array at our award-winning soccer river drinking water resource center in Bedford, solar generation has always been a part of the design plan, but the local electric utility infrastructure first needed updating our on-site solar generation will produce enough power to meet 100% of the resource center's energy needs as early as 2025.
Additional solar generation in 2024 is also planned in California and Connecticut. San Jose Water Company is also expanding the availability of recycled water for irrigation use approximately two miles of pipe full bring up to 440 acre feet of recycle water per year to a nearby golf course, schools and parks. The potable water save through the use of recycled water for irrigation is enough to meet the needs of more than 8,000 people daily.
One of the ways we measure our impact and success as a company is how have we been a force for good. We use our core values to help us deliver benefits to our customers local communities, employees and the environment. For example, employee safety is paramount. Our teams work diligently to ensure our people are trained and equipped to safely do their jobs in Connecticut. We were awarded the Connecticut Construction Industries Association Safety Award for the 20th straight year.
While this is a great achievement, we're continually assessing how can we improve our best in class safety standards across our operations. Also, as I've mentioned before, we're a better utility because of our employees' talent and hard work. So being recognized as an employer of choice as a top priority across SJW Group. Our good place to work index as measured by an independent third party survey of our employees is at world-class levels as a company. We recognize the breadth and richness of perspective that we gained by having diverse teams and partners.
SJW Group has a gender balance board, something only 12% of Russell 3,000 companies can claim and in 2023, we spent $63 million or approximately 21% of our addressable spend with diverse suppliers. I'm also proud to share that we've received recognition for our efforts we were recognized for our watershed stewardship in California by the National Association of clean water agencies. We received an A rating from MSCI. for our work on ESG matters. And our company was the highest ranked utility in the prestigious Newsweek excellence 1,000 index for 2024.
Inclusion in the index is for exemplary corporate excellence with a firm commitment to best practices and business and financial growth while also serving customers, stakeholders and communities with a dedication to social responsibility and ethical standards. It's a testament to the values of our company and our work to be a meaningful force for good.
I can't say it enough, but our people make the difference at SJW Group, they make us a better utility every year every quarter every day. I continue to be inspired by the contributions of our talented teams across our national footprint as they consistently provide an essential service with integrity, reliability and peace of mind for our customers. I'm confident our team's commitment to serving customers, our local communities and the environment, while creating value for shareholders will continue to reinforce our strong position for a successful future.
And with that, I will turn the call back over to the operator.
Question and Answer Session
Operator
(Operator Instructions) Angie Storozynski, Seaport.
Angie Storozynski
Thank you. I have to start with a question about Connecticut means. So in almost six years when you guys were approached, oh, Connecticut Water was approached by Eversource amount of resources selling Aquarion. I just wonder how you guys see this asset. I remember back back in 2019, 18, Eversource was talking about the complementary nature of the service territories have bought Aquarion, Connecticut Water from here that should not have changed. The regulatory setup has changed, however, and I'm just if you can comment at all about how you see Aquarion.
Eric Thornburg
Well, thank you, Angie, and thanks for. Thanks for calling in today. And I know candidly, I really out of an abundance of respect for Eversource and Aquarion and particularly the employees of Aquarion who've been through a lot of a lot of sales over the years. I'll not comment specifically on this process, but as you know, we've got a real proven growth strategy focused on investing capital and making acquisitions that create shareholder value. And you have our commitment that we'll continue to evaluate and assess all potential growth opportunities that would create shareholder value. But though we won't pursue growth just for growth sake. I think it's very important to be disciplined in that and that would be the case here as well. So we'll have more to say in the future. But for now we'll have to leave it at that.
Angie Storozynski
Thank you. Okay. So maybe a little bit more about your pending rate case in Connecticut. I understand that the final decision is due in June. But Tom, we've seen some, yes, from very weak regulatory decisions on the electric and gas side also on the water side for Macquarie. And so I'm just wondering if at this stage, you can comment how you think the current rate case is going. And again, not a very big driver of earnings, at least not this year. But I'm again any any comment about how it's been proceeding?
Eric Thornburg
Yes, absolutely. Thank you, Angie. I'll start and then allow Andrew to contribute as well. Of course, I'm super proud of our team. I mean, I think looking back at some of the recent decisions with energy utilities and then Aquarion water, of course, and we really studied that and learned and completely reimagined our rate process filing. And if you tuned into any one of those hearings, I'm proud to say you would have seen a team that was really engaged and making every attempt to be transparent and honorable and to provide the commission the information that they need to make the decision. And so I remain very optimistic that we will have a fair result that would be capital attractive and constructive.
And though certainly we're going to find out more in May and July. But I'm really proud of the team and and I'll go back. I mean, we've worked collaboratively with the Public Advocates Office and the commission and commission or the authority staff to pass such things as the water infrastructure conservation adjustment. We have full decoupling there we still have a 270 day statutory period to get rates. So there's a lot of really capital supportive regulatory tools.
But it's clear, you know, we've had a bit of a rough patch as utilities in the past year or so. But we're committed to continue to work with all parties to make it as constructive as we possibly can for our shareholders and customers. So bottom line, I am optimistic and feel very good about my team and the what we put forth in our rate filing.
Andrew, I'm failing mentioning.
Andrew Walters
Hi, Eric. I think you covered it very well, and I don't have anything to add to that.
Angie Storozynski
And so but Andrew, can you add a little bit more, maybe about when you mentioned your guidance for 20 for the Secca reinvestments, like would I don't know how much this is exactly. And I'm assuming that that's somewhat of a drag on the 24 guidance, is it pulling forward some expenses from 25? I mean, what is it? And then if we could quantify the size of this?
Andrew Walters
Yes, I can't quantify the size of the off the top my head for this call, nor will I in the future. But what I can do is talk about the the types of items that you've you've asked a question on. So these are items that will help us strategically position ourselves for for additional future growth. They can be things that help from a staff training physician two things that will allow us to invest in other infrastructure items that will help us reduce costs in the future. So there they're meant to be investments that will help us produce a better results in the future.
Eric Thornburg
Thank you.
Operator
Jonathan Reeder with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Jonathan Reeder
A good morning or afternoon depending on where you're located, but on a very compare. Can you remind us our Connecticut Water's CapEx budget that was outlined and the pending GRC actually gets factored into pure as final order? I know it's not like California were the CPUC actually approved a three year CapEx budget as part of the GRC process there, but will pure indicate what level of spend over that period it believes is appropriate.
Andrew Walters
And Jonathan, I think Pierre, in the past, while they might give us some some comments in general, there is definitely not the same as California where there's a specific approval process, but we do in the interaction with staff and with the commissioners can from time to time receive some some guidance as to where they may see some challenges in the future. But typically, it's not focused on that. It's really focused on what we have invested and whether that is a prudent use of our customers' money that they invest with us or provide to us.
Jonathan Reeder
Okay. Okay. And then CMA, maybe asking the Aquarion question a little differently, but just given the challenges in the Connecticut regulatory environment, right, now, is that a state where SJW would want to increase exposure versus, you know, taxes where growth is higher or potentially entering a new state?
Eric Thornburg
Fair question. And again, I'll not comment specifically on the opportunity and the processes has it's yet not completely defined. And but we do take a long-term view of constructive regulatory shaping and investment. And so we'll evaluate it very carefully once we understand fully the process. And but that's all I have to say to date.
Jonathan Reeder
Thank you.
Thanks for taking my questions. Appreciate it.
Thank you, Jonathan.
Operator
(Operator Instructions) Roger Little Liddell with Clear Harbor Asset Management. Your line is Tim, please go.
Roger Liddell
Thank you and good morning, gentleman by Roger. So great to hear from you.
Thank you.
You have to get reported as good as this, you know, but by or particularly how long I've been concerned about the PFAS issue and I and other contaminants, but PFAS is as good as it comes in terms of the signature of it, the damage is ignored. So my concern is that generally across the country. We're seeing blowback, I think more blowback on large rate requests. Then I can recall for a number of years, maybe it's selective amnesia, but I and here are large numbers of me, our $110 million in California is one thing, 120 in Connecticut. By the way, Maine has had dreadful PFAS contamination issues, perhaps it's not Bedford Sacco area or your other service territory. So that's why it's mentioned. But anyway, big box in play and think blowback to me just seems in most cases, remarkably that implies the benefits of the life cycle cost versus the first cost claims of ERG. So is there anything that you feel the from the shareholder owned companies in particular, but the industry can do more in terms of awakening, the public to the word investment in PFS of our control, there is going to be a big health payback that isn't right away. So what can be?
Eric Thornburg
Thank you, Roger. And you're right, I you and I have spoken about this for for many years. I think the biggest sea change is finally EPA has stepped forward with a proposed regulatory standard, candidly, up until that point, while many people wanted it resolved from a regulatory risk standpoint, a lot of commissions we're concerned about well, why should we approve a rate increase add cost to customers when there's in fact, no standard for this contaminant, there's not even completed health studies by by EPA. And so now that that process is well underway. We have a proposed standard. We expect that to get promulgated in final form Boyd and then that really sets the stage and And in our conversations with regulators. There's real alignment around, hey, we need to get this done and get it done fast. And it is a very aggressive timetable. One insights promulgated we have three years to complete treatment. We've taken many wells off-line that you know that are above a certain action levels, but we do have a lot of construction work to get accomplished over the next three years to completely resolve and remediated this thing I will add that I'm in Maine, we've been very fortunate and all the testing, the detailed testing we've done among cross all of our sources there. We're fortunate so far not to have any NEP phosphates of any substance. We do operate a utility under contract, a part of our management services agreement that does have a bit of an issue. So we'll work with them to help resolve that. But them we're committed to getting this done and behind us. And as you as well. We've disclosed we also participate in the class action suit against 3M's in the DuPonts to help so that any costs we recover in that process, which frankly we don't expect it to be big, you know, fully anywhere close to fully recovering our costs. But whatever we do get full flow that back for the benefit of our customers of course, tried to mitigate the rate impacts of it. But I appreciate your question and your and your interest and support this important topic.
Yes, thank you.
Thank you, Roger.
Operator
Thank you.
And I'm showing no further questions at this time. And I would like to turn the conference back over to Eric Thornburg, Chief Executive Officer, for any further remarks.
Eric Thornburg
Thank you, operator. And thank you all of you participating on today's call. We truly appreciate your interest in support of our organization, our people and if we can be of service to you in the future, please reach out to Andrew Walters or Dan Mooney or myself, and we'll look forward to our next engagement. Thank you so much. Take care.
Operator
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.
