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    Apple Reports Record Quarter: But Should the Company Heed Obama’s Call to Bring Jobs Home?

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    President Obama laid out his blueprint for the country Tuesday night in his third State of the Union Address. How to bring jobs back to America and put this country back to work is a top priority for him.

    "Tonight, my message to business leaders is simple: Ask yourselves what you can do to bring jobs back to your country, and your country will do everything we can to help you succeed," he said. "We should start with our tax code. Right now, companies get tax breaks for moving jobs and profits overseas. Meanwhile, companies that choose to stay in America get hit with one of the highest tax rates in the world. It makes no sense, and everyone knows it. So let's change it."

    In an election year with unemployment still high at 8.5%, there's a lot of talk about job creation, in particular where the jobs are coming from versus where they not coming from.

    Apple, which just reported yet another blockbuster quarter, has come under fire in recent weeks for its use of Chinese manufacturing plants, where workers are subjected to abhorrent labor practices, according to multiple reports and Apple's recent decision to release its list of suppliers and pledge to deal with abuses.

    These issues have received additional scrutiny thanks to Mike Daisey's critically acclaimed play, "The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs". (See: The Darker Side of Apple: The Human Cost of Your Apple iProducts)

    The criticism stems most notably from Apple's use of China's Foxconn facility — where wages are less than $1 a day and workers work very long hours doing the same task over and over to assemble some of the products many Americans have grown to love: the iPhone and the iPad. (See: Apple's Sweatshop Problem: 16 Hour Days, ~70 Cents An Hour)

    In Defense of Apple

    Shares of the $400 billion company jumped 8% on Apple's earnings report Tuesday after the bell. A very strong holiday shopping season helped the company sell more than 37 million iPhones and 15 milllion iPads. The company reported net income of $13.06 billion, or $13.87 a share, which is more than $3 above estimates. (See: STAY STOKED APPLE FANS: This Should Be One Heck Of A Year)

    These staggering numbers have some wondering: Should Apple, which now has more than $100 billion cash on hand, do more to bring jobs back to this country?

    Adam Lashinsky, Fortune's senior editor at large and author of the new book Inside Apple, joined The Daily Ticker's Aaron Task and Daniel Gross to answer that question. His answer: "I don't think so."

    "We are in a post-industrial society. We are not going to make little devices in the United States," he says in the accompanying video. "It is hard to image rousing thousands of U.S. factory workers in the middle of the night because a client needs you to work on their order."

    At the same time, Lashinsky highlights the fact Apple does employ thousands of workers here in the U.S. to innovate and design the company's products. President Obama even recognized this fact during his speech last night when called to support innovation and talent for those who aspire to be "the next Steve Jobs."

    Jobs' widow was in the audience Tuesday night and smiled at the remarks.

    To further Lashinsky's point, Dan notes that Apple is responsible for creating and reinventing entire industries where jobs have been indirectly added.

    The company has redefined how we watch and buy our music and video media, as well as how we read our books and magazine content while at the same time created the App industry.

    But should Apple, or any other company for that matter, decide to migrate jobs back to the U.S., Obama wants to give those companies some tax breaks. Here is the three-prong message laid out last night:

    First, if you're a business that wants to outsource jobs, you shouldn't get a tax deduction for doing it. That money should be used to cover moving expenses for companies like Master Lock that decide to bring jobs home.

    Second, no American company should be able to avoid paying its fair share of taxes by moving jobs and profits overseas. From now on, every multinational company should have to pay a basic minimum tax. And every penny should go towards lowering taxes for companies that choose to stay here and hire here.

    Third, if you're an American manufacturer, you should get a bigger tax cut. If you're a high-tech manufacturer, we should double the tax deduction you get for making products here. And if you want to relocate in a community that was hit hard when a factory left town, you should get help financing a new plant, equipment, or training for new workers.

    Tell us what you think! Should Apple do more to bring manufacturing jobs home to America?

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    82 comments

    • Karen V  •  3 months ago
      It would be nice, but the U.S. no longer has the manufacturing infrastructure for this type of electronics. What will happen when we can no longer manufacture our own weapons and military devices? What then?
      • Steve Jackson 3 months ago
        Stop invading folks.
      • Karen V 3 months ago
        How will we defend ourselves from those invading us?
    • Nicholas  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  3 months ago
      Most of the Japanese and German Auto companies manufacture their cars here. How can they compete. Every piece of a BMW is manufactured and assembled here in the USA. This by a company based in the most socialized area of the world. There are also reports and articles recently stating as more and more Chinese are becoming afflurent they would prefer products made here as most things made in China are of poor quality. Dont believe me buy anything from Wal Mart. The cost of Chinese labor is going to increase exponentially as their population shrinks due to the one child per married couple. Do you think that these only children, raised in an increasingly westernized cluture will view menial factory work as satisfactory.
      • dennis 3 months ago
        THE Jap and German cars are all made with with engines, drivetrains, etc. from the home country. The assembly process is just 20% of the total value of the car- peanuts! Why do you think we have a $200 billion trade deficit with Japan, and we import tons of autos and auto parts from Germany. The ports at Savanna (BMW cars and parts) and Mobile (Mercedes autos and parts) are packed with container ships. The only German parts made here are some some sheet metal pieces, all engines, transmission, etc. are from Germany.
      • Bazinga 3 months ago
        Nicholas, Agreed. 1st: the one child policy in China was necessary, other countries should adopt it. 2nd: with fewer children usually comes the aspiration for a better life because one is not trapped helping mom taking care of younger siblings, etc.
        So, that one child will perhaps seek and be granted higher education expecting to make a decent living. That is how societies become more sophisticated.
    • Everybodys All American  •  3 months ago
      If you are asking the question that in and of itself is very telling. In case you have not figured it out. Of course they should. But it is very unlikely they will. All the more reason to not celebrate Apple's success. Because they are not a good neighbor, good partner, and in the end they re not good for Americans.
      • A Yahoo! User 3 months ago
        I simply will not but any apple product. this has been my attitude for years even though i know it is virtually impossible to buy any american made electronics. i think apple is a trend-setter and could influence others to locate more jobs on-shore even at the expense of a little less profit. i hope others will do as i do and help send a a powerful message. hope mrs. jobs is in a position to exert a little influence.
      • Moluscan 3 months ago
        They won't "influence" anyone. Sane companies will do what they need to do to stay competitive. Or, they die.
      • tahoeTim 3 months ago
        The infrastructure and talent pool is no longer in the USA to build these products at a price consumers will buy them at. If you don't buy any electronics not made in the USA then your home must be filled with dial up telephones, B&W TVs from the 60's, and the latest in RCA record players. If Apple didn't buiid these products overseas, then someone else (Samsung? Sony?) would. I now understand why BO's message actually makes "sense" to some....
    • lux_lux  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 months ago
      I think he is wrong that factory workers would not go in the middle of the night. In Florida I work in retail part-time for extra money, and many of the workers are single divorced women who often need the money just to get by in life despite the low pay. They work for minimum wage and would gladly go into an Apple factory the middle of the night to work to get overtime or extra hours. Don't generalize about something if you don't really know how desperate some people are just to have a job or make some extra money right now.
      • tahoeTim 3 months ago
        I doubt many of those single divorced women have the skill to run complex assembly machines used in the manufacture of Apple's products. The days of just showing up for work with a HS diploma and little understanding of math and science then earning a middle class wage are over.
      • Lim Kopi 3 months ago
        Tahoe, you're wrong. Alot of Chinese assembly workers don't even have middle school education. The process flow really depends on the Engineers (Engineering Degree Holder) to design so that even a kid can assemble the iPhone.
        Therefore, I truly believe that Obama is doing the right thing to try to bring back manufacturing back to US just like the good old days !!
      • dday 3 months ago
        Lim, you are right. The skills can be obtained. It's after all a robotic production line. The minimum wage in US is $10 an hour. That is more than 10 times of what people in China make. Honestly would you work in a sweat shop for .70c an hour?
    • sunny day  •  3 months ago
      How does "70 Cents An Hour" equate to "wages are less than $1 a day"?
      • Steve Jackson 3 months ago
        Good point.
      • tahoeTim 3 months ago
        Facts do not stand in the way of a good arguement for this President, especially when the only way to get re-elected is to incite class warfare
      • Bazinga 3 months ago
        TahoeTim, Unfortunately, it's working rather well. Lots of folks don't see through this.
    • Binglin  •  Southborough, Massachusetts  •  3 months ago
      All three rules has been implement in China for 30 years.
    • aktrader2  •  3 months ago
      The migration of Multi-naionals to "manage" issues with countries where they sell products, they open plants where it is economically warranted. For Apple the vast range of customers are outside the US.
      The problem with the President's position is that the areas where manufacturing was and is needed is not, as some pointed out, suited for the manufacturing that is currently located abroad. High-tech work if brought back will be automated rather than actually bringing labor intensive type of plant. It would make no sense for a firm locating/constructing a 1 billion dollar plant, to then rely on manual labor for assembly/installation. The location where these types of plants will likely be located is Austin Texas area, North/South Carolina,Georgia, Tennessee, etc. Probably most will have to be Right To work. Locating in Detroit, MI, is an issue with a catch 22 dealing with the decades old decline.
      The major impediment is the nature of politicians, they invite you in with one hand and then slap you with the other.
    • Thucydides  •  3 months ago
      Politicians (mostly) have ranted and raved about how a global economy would help the United States. Now Americans have their global economy that they cast their votes for. When Patrick Buchanan told Americans in 1992 where we were headed with NAFTA, Pat was promptly labeled an "isolationist" by many Americans. Americans got everything that they voted (and asked) for.
    • Carol  •  Brookfield, Wisconsin  •  3 months ago
      It is less an issue of factory workers pay than an issue of a physically integrated supply chain that is flexible and can turn on a dime. You will never find that in the US because of the over regulation of industry by government and the smothering effect of unions. One only needs to look to Europe to see what our future looks like.
    • Allison  •  Alpharetta, Georgia  •  3 months ago
      These companies will never bring "our" jobs back because they never were "our" jobs to begin with. They belong to these businesses and they are in business to make a profit for shareholders. The jobs would be here now if it made sense to have them here. It is a terrible thing to witness a nation in decline; there are many reasons for it. This "post-industrial society" nonsense is a dangerous mindset to be in. When the chips are down, this country will find that it has no friends, and we will not even be able to produce basic necessities of life.
    • Ross Perot  •  Middletown, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
      I wonder if Foxconn could start a factory in the U.S. and pay workers in bowls of rice over here...........................
    • Retired at 29  •  3 months ago
      Again, it's all about the shareholders; never about the lower management or employees. Apple's R&D in the US is simply here to protect patents and trade secrets so as not put shareholders $$$ at risk. Techies working the Mac store in the local mall are a necessary evil (cost) in order to get all those iPads into consumer hands, increasing shareholders profits. Not unlike the rest of corporate american, it is never about the employees and always about the bottom line.
    • george  •  Mashpee, Massachusetts  •  3 months ago
      APPLE CAN'T BRING SLAVE LABOR TO THE US.
    • toto  •  3 months ago
      Only if he brings back slavery
    • nomore  •  Cincinnati, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      Apple does not need to leave China. Just don't bring the products back here to sell. Foreigners could not afford to buy Apple that made in US. Look at the Foreign car makers over here. They do not send the cars back to their countries. They send profits home.
    • Sisafitz  •  3 months ago
      Last I checked, Obama was all about closing "tax loopholes". The plain english for that is; raising taxes. Telling the private sector to 'go first' and THEN the country would do something for the companies is backwards [as all his arguments are upon close inspection]. Fix the insane tax system, and business will follow. Until then, folks like apple should prepare to move their headquarters out of the US, as we appear to be getting more of the same old same old from DC.
    • Jeff  •  Hong Kong, Hong Kong  •  3 months ago
      The wages of workers at Foxconn China are slightly less than US$1 an hour, not $1 a day. I know it is still a huge earning difference between US and China, but I just want to correct this figure. The wage data is a key factor in the issue, the writer should not make such terrible mistake.
    • Boomer  •  Toronto, Canada  •  3 months ago
      Jobs not coming home. He's dead.
    • JasonH  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 months ago
      Steve Jobs is dead and is never coming home. Obama needs to realize that.
    • lathrupman  •  3 months ago
      "and your country will do everything we can do to help you succeed."
      And now the facts: For three years Obama, his administration and unelected Czars have done everything possible to prop up union bosses and add burdensome regulations. They even shut down work at one of America's icons, Gibson Guitar over bogus allegations.

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